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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ? Part 2

 
 
nimh
 
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Reply Wed 9 Nov, 2016 10:39 pm
@ehBeth,
Yeah. But then you look at the white youth (18-29) vote, and you see Trump leading (if not by as much as overall), and it don't feel good.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 02:23 am
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
I hope your party reacts like a Labrador finally catching a car...now that you've got it, you have no idea what to do with it.


There's been comparisons with Brexit, and I think one stands out. We're four months down the line and have found out there's no plan whatsoever and they're making it up as they go along.

One big difference is that we may have voted for Brexit, but we didn't let the idiots run the country.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 05:01 am
@nimh,
Yes. That person is mirroring a multitude of other voices pointing out the failure of polling. I'd think someone with possible connections to the loser may have bias,...

Polling criticism seems to be universal.
Builder
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 05:23 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Polling criticism seems to be universal.


Where's Parados on this? Supposed to be down the wire on exit polls every time.

Hell, CNN was calling her President from the get-go.

I'm wondering what influence social media had on the outcome.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 05:27 am
@Builder,
I have to say, even though my hand was over my mouth as Trump surged, I enjoyed seeing those know it all, Hillary-supporting news types go through the stages of grief. I couldn't believe how openly they pushed Clinton.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 06:02 am
@Builder,
Amazing, innit!?
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 06:06 am
@Lash,
I thought Brian Williams was going to collapse, he was melting away as the results came in.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 06:20 am
@Brand X,
Martha Radditz (sp?) was crying. An unbiased journalist obviously, who actually moderated a debate...
Van Jones was near tears.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 06:27 am
It seemed a revelation to John King when he said on air during results that Washington, and the media(bubbles he lives in), is not America.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 09:15 am
@blatham,
The late Tony Judt was an excellent historian whose chief work was a comprehensive history of Europe since WWII. I believe he foresaw the coming demise of the "End of History" view of the world that attended the collapse of the Soviet Empire (Recall Francis Fukuyama's ~1992 book) . It was indeed an ephemeral state of affairs, as most people with a long view of history correctly saw. There have been repeated like events in our history generally following the end of an extended period of real or near conflict between rival powers or alliances. They generally don't last very long as human nature and rivalries quickly restore the normal trajectory of human affairs. We can see the fruits of it today in the rise of national priorities within the EU and the renewal of old rivalries in the world, from Russia (where Putin looks more like a new version of Nicholas I every day) to the reawakened Persian Empire, and, of course, China.

All this has been developing steadily over the past two decades and there is nothing either surprising or particularly associated with recent trends in the USA in it. Instead it is the normal trajectory of history. It is an error to look at everything through the lens of your favorite conspiracy theories. There is much more to the world than that.
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revelette2
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 09:41 am
Well the election is over. The coming republican Washington can I guess continue their investigations and hearings until Hillary dies and waste our tax money like usual. Hillary will more likely retire to being happy grandmother and they will continue with their Clinton Foundation helping millions of people world wide.

Regardless of being stuck with Trump after he is inaugurated; I am glad the election is over. I have never been more sick of the election as I have this one with Hillary and Trump. I did find out I like Hillary the more I came to know her, but other than that, I am glad to know it is over.

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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 11:52 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

You losers need to pace yourselves. You have 4 - 8 more years to bitch and moan about evil ole Hillary.


Not. Smile
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Builder
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 02:57 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
I couldn't believe how openly they pushed Clinton.


There's still much gnashing of teeth and unfriending occurring on social media, Lash. Bit of an echo chamber in here, though. :-)
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 04:09 pm
@Builder,
Unfortunately, bouncing noise doesn't have any effect.
Builder
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 04:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Any evidence of rioting in your part of the world, CI?

Already seeing bogus images being used supposedly showing anti-Trump protests.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 04:42 pm
@Builder,
I believe San Francisco had some peaceful demonstrators. It's a very liberal city, and they see bigotry where ever it exists.

Quote:
, racism wins
Focusing on individual bigotry is actually a conservative way to think about things.
Updated by Jenée [email protected] Nov 7, 2016, 1:30pm EST
Builder
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 05:04 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I watched a short video of president Obama talking about the situation. Very diplomatic, though his security guy looked like he'd just swallowed a fresh dog turd.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 05:43 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
Maybe she thinks she's Melania



Do you think she is delusional and thinks she is the first lady again?
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 05:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

I believe San Francisco had some peaceful demonstrators. It's a very liberal city, and they see bigotry where ever it exists.


More accurate to say they are very sensitive to bigotry in others, but are generally blind to their own..

That, however is true of most people, everywhere.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2016 05:51 pm
@georgeob1,
How so?
 

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