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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ? Part 2

 
 
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 03:50 am
@Glennn,
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So, thanks, Parados. I couldn't do this without you.


Works for the DNC, and tirelessly refutes propaganda with (wait for it) drum roll..... more propaganda.

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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 04:14 am
De Blasio complained to Podesta that it was difficult to defend Clinton's refusal to release her Wall Street speeches.

http://nypost.com/2016/11/03/de-blasio-found-it-really-hard-to-defend-hillary-clinton/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 05:15 am
FBI examining fake documents targeting Clinton campaign: sources
Source: Reuters

The FBI and U.S. intelligence agencies are examining faked documents aimed at discrediting the Hillary Clinton campaign as part of a broader investigation into what U.S. officials believe has been an attempt by Russia to disrupt the presidential election, people with knowledge of the matter said.

U.S. Senator Tom Carper, a Democrat on the Senate Homeland Security Committee, has referred one of the documents to the FBI for investigation on the grounds that his name and stationery were forged to appear authentic, some of the sources who had knowledge of that discussion said.

In the letter identified as fake, Carper is quoted as writing to Clinton, “We will not let you lose this election,” a person who saw the document told Reuters.

The fake Carper letter, which was described to Reuters, is one of several documents presented to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the U.S. Department of Justice for review in recent weeks, the sources said.

A spokeswoman for Carper declined to comment.

As part of an investigation into suspected Russian hacking, FBI investigators have also asked Democratic Party officials to provide copies of other suspected faked documents that have been circulating along with emails and other legitimate documents taken in the hack, people involved in those conversations said.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fbi-examining-fake-documents-targeting-clinton-campaign-sources/ar-AAjRZyS?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
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revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 06:11 am
U.S. officials warn of Russian mischief in election and beyond

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U.S. intelligence agencies do not see Russia as capable of using cyberespionage to alter the outcome of Tuesday’s presidential election, but they have warned that Moscow may continue meddling after the voting has ended to sow doubts about the legitimacy of the result, U.S. officials said.

The assessment reflects widespread concern among U.S. spy agencies that a months-long campaign by Russia to rattle the mechanisms of American democracy will probably continue after polls close on one of the most polarizing races in recent history, extending and amplifying the political turbulence.

U.S. intelligence agencies do not see Russia as capable of using cyberespionage to alter the outcome of Tuesday’s presidential election, but they have warned that Moscow may continue meddling after the voting has ended to sow doubts about the legitimacy of the result, U.S. officials said.

The assessment reflects widespread concern among U.S. spy agencies that a months-long campaign by Russia to rattle the mechanisms of American democracy will probably continue after polls close on one of the most polarizing races in recent history, extending and amplifying the political turbulence.

U.S. security officials have not ruled out Russian-sponsored disruption on Election Day. In recent weeks, officials at the Department of Homeland Security have collected evidence of apparent Russian “scanning” of state-run databases and computer voting systems. “Whether they were really trying hard to get in, it’s not clear,” a U.S. official said

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revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 06:20 am
Apparently Podesta has not learned to not open unfamiliar emails and go to their links.


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A phishing email sent to Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta may have been so sophisticated that it fooled the campaign's own IT staffers, who at one point advised him it was a legitimate warning to change his password.

The stolen email thread, released by WikiLeaks Friday, also provides the most direct evidence yet that the Russian government was behind the damaging hack into the Clinton campaign, according to a private cybersecurity company.

The thread shows a Clinton campaign staffer writing that a phishing email sent to Podesta's Gmail account on March 19, 2016, is "legitimate," though the staffer advises him to go through Google's official procedures to update his password. It's not clear if Podesta gave hackers his password before he was advised by his staff, or if the email in question was the one that led to the hack.

The Clinton campaign has not commented directly on the hacked emails and CNN cannot independently verify their authenticity.

On its face, the source of the potentially dangerous email is Google, but a closer look at the actual mailing address shows an unfamiliar or bogus-looking account: "[email protected]."

The subject line warns, "Someone has your password" and the body of the message says "someone" in Ukraine tried, but was stopped, from signing into Podesta's account.

"You should change your password immediately," the email warns. The words "CHANGE PASSWORD" then appear -- inviting Podesta to click on them -- as a way to do just that. But the address did not link to a secure Google web page, instead directing the user blindly via bit.ly, a service used to shorten or conceal web addresses.

According to the cybersercurity company SecureWorks, the link used in the Podesta email was clicked two times. If his information was entered into a form on the landing site -- potentially run by a hacker -- the floodgates could have opened right there.

Podesta was not the only Clinton campaign staffer targeted, SecureWorks found.

"We saw 108 email addresses targeted and we know that 20 of the links that were sent to those individuals were clicked," Phil Burdette, a senior security researcher at the firm, told CNN on Friday. There were 213 similar bit.ly links created, he said, but because there were duplicates it is likely the same accounts received multiple phishing messages.

It is unclear if anyone else targeted entered their information.


The Russian connection

The US government has pinned other cyberattacks targeting Democratic groups -- including the summer's hack of the Democratic National Committee -- on the Russian government, though it has not yet accused Moscow of the Podesta hack. Moscow has denied involvement.

SecureWorks, however, says Friday's email thread provides proof of Russia's involvement in the Podesta hack. The group points to evidence that "Fancy Bear" -- the name of the cyberespionage group also believed to have carried out the allegedly Russia-led DNC hacks -- was involved in the Podesta thefts.

"Fancy Bear" is a nickname for one of the Russian military-intelligence hacking groups that were discovered in the DNC's servers. Other cyberfirms have corroborated these findings, as has the US government.

SecureWorks has linked the bit.ly account used in the Podesta phishing attack to "Fancy Bear."

WikiLeaks has denied working with the Russians, though the group won't reveal its sources for the material it releases.

Don Smith, the director of cyberintelligence at SecureWorks, said historically, the targeting of the bit.ly campaign appears aimed at military attaches in Western embassies, in addition to dissidents in Ukraine and Georgia and journalists outside Russia.

But the phishing operation retrained its focus in March 2016, he said, employing the same tactics in an effort to breach the DNC and Clinton campaign staff email.

"You don't have to think very hard to determine it was one of the Russian intelligence agencies," Smith said.


source
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 06:53 am
@revelette2,
We knew this election was going to be ugly, possibly or likely the worst in our lifetimes. But who the hell would have imagined that one campaign would front a leader like Trump and be aided by a combination of Julian Assange, Russia, and portions of the FBI?
parados
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 06:57 am
@Glennn,
Glenn wrote:
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.


Just throwing random **** still doesn't prove your "fact" that she violated US Code.

You made a claim. S0 far you have not been able to provide even the smallest evidence that would make it to a court of law.

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No. Actually, what you've just said is easily shown to be false. Only when told to turn over her emails did she do so; and then only the ones she decided to turn over. You are deliberately overlooking a fact that has been pointed out to you over and over ad nauseam.

She turned them over. Colin Powell didn't turn his over until asked. I don't see you demanding he be prosecuted.

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The proper place of custody of her State Department communications was never her own private email server; they were to become archived as records.

First thing you need to do is look up the word "archive". It shows the lie of your claim that is the proper place.
Second lie on your part is that those emails are now archived because they were turned over. If the archive is the proper place then the emails are in their proper place making any argument about them not being in the proper place moot.
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 07:11 am
@blatham,
The Clinton campaign intentionally used their money and influence to push Trump to the top of the candidates for nomination.

So Hillary knew.
snood
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 08:34 am
@Lash,
Hillary won more votes than Bernie. It wasn't the DNC email chatter about how to usurp Bernie that won it. More people chose Clinton as their candidate than chose Bernie. She beat him fair and square.The numbers clearly show that. The outcome of the Democratic primary is only in question among a very thin number of deluded people.
Trump beat 16 GOP candidates in the primary by stoking and riding the wave of frustration and anger (and in-curiousness) of the mostly uneducated mostly white electorate. The whole world is shaking its head over how stupid those people are. You're wagging your finger blaming Clinton for Trump's rise. That makes about as much sense as the people who blame Obama for Trump's rise. It's crazy.
Susan Sarandon, you and a scattered bunch of other ill advised malcontents have settled into a wretched niche that appears to see it as a sacred calling to stand in the corner carping about how everyone else is stupid and blind, and you are the only ones with eyes. One would think you'd find a more productive use of your energy, but maybe endless sharpshooting at Hillary is good enough for you. It's going to have to sustain you for at least the next 4 years.
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 09:12 am
@snood,
You're mistaken. Clinton did not win fair and square by any means. The proof is anywhere you look. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge it doesn't make it go away.

That fact negates your opinion.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 09:42 am
@Lash,
You're in the same party as Trump. That says it all. Our elections are not rigged, except for voter suppression in the south. To deny our elections without proof is mongering fiction. Voter fraud is harsh with thousands and jail time. If you think it's worth one more vote, be my guest.
Voter suppression seems to be perpetrated by the republicans in the southern states.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.refinery29.com/amp/2016/11/128684/game-voter-id-laws-disenfranchise-minorities?client=safari
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 09:54 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

The Clinton campaign intentionally used their money and influence to push Trump to the top of the candidates for nomination.

So Hillary knew.


Let's assume that this is 100% true (huge assumption BTW).

My question to you is....so what?
Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 11:58 am
Good letter from reader.

' To the editor: It just boggles the mind that something we would scold our children about (cheating) would be done by an adult who got paid to lecture us on CNN. With the revelation that interim Democratic Party Chairwoman Donna Brazile fed debate questions to the Hillary Clinton campaign, we know for certain that politicians are enabled by the media. (“Using political flacks as news analysts erodes faith in journalism. TV directors: Build that wall!” editorial, Nov. 2)

It is so disheartening and explains the appeal of Donald Trump. Everyone is so fed up with the Washington ways.

I wonder how long it will be before Brazile is back on the Sunday morning talk shows as if this never happened. In the insider world of Washington, cheating won’t matter because we know they take care of their own.

And people say Trump is shameless.

Anita Roglich, Santa Monica'

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-donna-brazile-cnn-20161104-story.html
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 01:58 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
You're mistaken. Clinton did not win fair and square by any means. The proof is anywhere you look.

I look at vote totals and she won fair and square.

Where are you looking because the vote totals are the only thing that matter unless you have evidence that the ballot boxes were stuffed.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 02:25 pm
Quote:
When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy?


any moment. right?
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 02:28 pm
@parados,
Quote:
I look at vote totals and she won fair and square.


Let's not look anywhere else, right? You're like a mountain range; hill areas.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 02:34 pm
@ehBeth,
2 weeks ago

ehBeth wrote:

Clinton
268 / 203 / 65
Trump
167 / 87 / 80

103



today

both Mrs Clinton and Mr. Trump are down

more states are in toss-up

interesting times

Clinton
259 / 180 / 79
Trump
161 / 65 / 96


toss-up
118

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the no toss-up analysis

http://www.270towin.com/maps/clinton-trump-no-tossup-states

Clinton
317


Trump
221


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http://www.270towin.com/news/2016/11/03/electoral-college-ratings-as-of-november-3rd_407.html

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Hillary Clinton's advantage over Donald Trump has continued to decrease since our last review of electoral forecasts on October 31st. One theme in recent days is forecasters moving some states that had previously been considered toss-ups into the leaning Trump category. Most notable are Ohio and Iowa, states that voted twice for Barack Obama.

Hillary Clinton now averages 288 electoral votes, down about five from the 31st. Donald Trump is at 193, a gain of ten. The changed forecasts are highlighted in bold in the table below. You can find all the associated maps, as well as a few others, on our 2016 Presidential Election Forecasts page.



http://www.270towin.com/uploads/forecasts_1103.png


snood
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 02:36 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
I look at vote totals and she won fair and square.


Let's not look anywhere else, right? You're like a mountain range; hill areas.


Well we could be like the tinfoil hat crowd - looking at everything BUT the obvious.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 02:37 pm
@ehBeth,
Clinton/Kaine numbers are all over 270. Trump still thinks he's in the run?
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 02:47 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You're incorrect about a few of your assertions.
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