When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ? Part 2

@Blickers,

Is there any comparison between Trump's five year question of Obama's presidency and Hillary's emails?

@cicerone imposter,

No. But George and the anti-Hillary supporters will try to keep the conversation about Emails. At this point, that's about all they got.

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@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

No. But George and the anti-Hillary supporters will try to keep the conversation about Emails. At this point, that's about all they got.

It is truly pitiful. They don't even like their candidate. But they're not honest enough to be ashamed of what a wretch he is, so they keep afloat the refrain:
1. Emails!
2. Clinton foundation!
3. (when 1 & 2 fails) Benghazi, Benghazi Benghazi!!! BOOGAH BOOGAH!!!

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@snood,

There is only one candidate, snood. And we all know she's as crooked as a dog's hind leg. The trumpet is just there to make her look like the only "choice", which isn't democracy.

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@Builder,

Builder wrote:

There is only one candidate, snood. And we all know she's as crooked as a dog's hind leg. The trumpet is just there to make her look like the only "choice", which isn't democracy.

Yeah, only problem is, you all call her "crooked" with no evidence of any wrongdoing after a couple of decades of trying to find some. There's a mountain of evidence still mounting that show Trump's crookedness.

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A while I read something about something coming about Hillary talking about Bernie supporters. I gathered from the hints it was going to bad. Turns out, it isn't at all.

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Let's look at what Clinton actually said about those idealistic youngsters filling up Sanders' rallies:

"Some are new to politics completely. They're children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parents' basement. They feel they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don't see much of a future. I met with a group of young black millennials today and you know one of the young women said, 'You know, none of us feel that we have the job that we should have gotten out of college. And we don't believe the job market is going to give us much of a chance.' So that is a mindset that is really affecting their politics. And so if you're feeling like you're consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn't pay a lot, and doesn't have some other ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe, just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing. So I think we should all be really understanding of that and should try to do the best we can not to be, you know, a wet blanket on idealism. We want people to be idealistic. We want them to set big goals. But to take what we can achieve now and try to present them as bigger goals." [Hillary Clinton]

source

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@revelette2,

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I gathered from the hints it was going to bad. Turns out, it isn't at all.

I thought it was going to be bad, as well. It's almost as if the MSM was purposefully trying to stir up a controversy between Hillary and Bernie. Couldn't be, could it?

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@snood,

The righties are trying to say it's the end of Hillary's campaign, because it supposedly will alienate all the Bernie supporters who came over to her. You get the impression that they know that Trump has peaked already and they're trying to puff up a scandal that can dominate the headlines until the election. That's their only hope.

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@snood,

I am beginning to think the reason Assange didn't go out at 3 AM on his famous balcony to disclose his leaks was because he realized it wouldn't have the impact the likes of which Stone and Fox news was making out. Instead he went out and made some noise about security concerns and then said he would be releasing information which would have an impact on the election. Kind of downgrading it from "October surprise." He probably knew everyone knows where he got it from and so were already having their defenses ready. Maybe someday the right will realized no matter how much they dig, search, investigate, bribe, steal....the Clinton's Hillary in particular are not devils, but just successful politicians who make mistakes but all in all are in government because it is where they want to be doing what they want, being civil servants like a lot of other people in government. I mean, if a person wants power and money there are a lot of easier ways to do it without so much scrutiny.

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http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/danzcolorplus8097-668x501.jpg

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@revelette2,

Quote revellette:

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I am beginning to think the reason Assange didn't go out at 3 AM on his famous balcony to disclose his leaks was because he realized it wouldn't have the impact the likes of which Stone and Fox news was making out........He probably knew everyone knows where he got it from and so were already having their defenses ready.

There's not much question that Assange now is working with Russia-Assange used to have a show on the Russia Today, (RT), network, which is Putin's organ. Assange and Russia might have planned to take a shot with what they thought were blockbuster, probably doctored up Emails, but then then after the debate, Putin might be having second thoughts about going all-out against Hillary. Trump's bad performance in the debate and his fall in the polls might have convinced Putin that Trump has little chance of beating Hillary, and Putin might already be thinking he doesn't want Hillary with a big personal grudge against him.

Take a look at what Obama did to Russia's economy, along with the EU, with the sanctions and the price of oil. Russia's GDP plummeted and it's still falling. And it wasn't even personal between Putin and Obama. Imagine what Hillary might do to Putin's economy if she makes it personal. Putin might be backing off, and that's why Assange didn't come up with anything.

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@Blickers,

Hard to know who Assnage may be working for, besides himself. Anything is at least possible. However you are merely speculating here.

I doubt that Putin is afraid of Hillary at all. Perhaps he even kept his "reset" button as a souvenir.

The collapse in world oil prices was a result of the need for cash among petroleum exporting nations, which no longer have the ability to control the price, together with the U.S. boom in natural gas production and the fracking technique developed for it which was quickly applied to raise domestic U.S. Petroleum production as well. None of these factors had anything to do with Obama. Indeed the rtise in U.S. Gas and Petroleum production was driven by a free market and it happened in spite of his efforts to restrain it.

That Russia is so dependent on the export of minerals and petroleum is a consequence of the corrupt authoritarian rule of Putin and the oligarchs dependent on him (the others are in jail), and their unwillingness to enable a civil society with free markets and investment. Obama had nothing to do with that either.

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@georgeob1,

That's true; Russia's GDP is supported by the petroleum industry estimated at 70%. That's huge! With the price of oil prices in decline, Russia's total economy will be impacted negatively, and the people will suffer for it.
http://carnegieendowment.org/2015/09/14/just-oil-company-true-extent-of-russia-s-dependency-on-oil-and-gas/ihtg

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@snood,

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(snip) you all call her "crooked" with no evidence of any wrongdoing..(snip)

We just need to look to her leader, who's admitted publicly that his biggest regret was going into Libya, and it was his sec of state who conned him into it on "humanitarian" grounds, when nothing could be further from the truth. She's also crowed about the street murder of that nation's lawful leader on film, and stated "We came; We saw; He died.", when it was clear that "rebel" fighters carried out the murder, thus implicating her in the murder, and the covert support of those "rebel" fighters.

Now here I was making this assumption that you could put two and two together, and come up with an answer.

My bad.

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@Builder,

That is one of my qualms about her too, as I've remarked about several times on a2k over years now. I had a thread once that I titled something like "is there anybody else?" I don't know if she regrets all that, or doesn't regret it at all. She is overly hawkish to me. I'm not always right on my takes, though, as I'm a dove type, as in figure out another way to fix stuff. But, I often am.

In any case, she's miles and miles saner than Trump, so she gets my vote.

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@Builder,

Builder wrote:

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(snip) you all call her "crooked" with no evidence of any wrongdoing..(snip)

We just need to look to her leader, who's admitted publicly that his biggest regret was going into Libya, and it was his sec of state who conned him into it on "humanitarian" grounds, when nothing could be further from the truth. She's also crowed about the street murder of that nation's lawful leader on film, and stated "We came; We saw; He died.", when it was clear that "rebel" fighters carried out the murder, thus implicating her in the murder, and the covert support of those "rebel" fighters.

Now here I was making this assumption that you could put two and two together, and come up with an answer.

My bad.

That sounds horrible. Do you have any source that cites that quote "We came, we saw, he died"?

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@snood,

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That sounds horrible. Do you have any source that cites that quote "We came, we saw, he died"?

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Man, that sucks. She sure sounds cavalier about it. Especially in hindsight, considering what has become of Libya. I admit it - this looks very bad.

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