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@McGentrix,

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I don't think that this is a thing and goes back to not knowing what racism is. I'd say you could be prejudiced against your own race, you may not like your own race, you may be continuously disappointed by your own race, but I don't think you can be racist of your own race.

You are talking semantics, but point taken. Whether someone is racist against their own race or prejudice against their own race is just a matter of semantics.

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@AC14747,

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What exactly is a racist expectation

an expectation defined by racism

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@McGentrix,

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I don't think you can be racist of your own race.

I politely disagree. I can't see any reason why you couldn't discriminate against people of your own race - because of their race.

I'm trying to think of a practical example (like an African-American landlord knocking back renters who were african-american) - but I can't think of an example yet that couldn't be interpreted as catering to another race's racism.

Oh, now I remember.

Mrs Hinge worked with an aboriginal women really didn't want those aboriginals loitering near her car in regional outpost.

As you think about it you realise what a ridiculously nebulous concept race is.

Let's face it - it's just about skin colour - and that's just bizarre.

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@hingehead,

Yeah, but I don't want anyone loitering around my car.

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@roger,

Me evver

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@roger,

It was the aboriginals she specifically mentioned - and by loitering I mean being within 10 meters of it.

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@hingehead,

Was she okay with others hanging out that close? Ah, nevermind. I get your point.

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@Real Music,

Real Music wrote:

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I don't think that this is a thing and goes back to not knowing what racism is. I'd say you could be prejudiced against your own race, you may not like your own race, you may be continuously disappointed by your own race, but I don't think you can be racist of your own race.

You are talking semantics, but point taken. Whether someone is racist against their own race or prejudice against their own race is just a matter of semantics.

One thing I have always told my kids as they have grown is that words mean things and when you use them wrong, they cease to have meaning. Racism, discrimination, prejudice, hate all mean different things and have very particular use in language. When we start using them indiscriminately then they cease having the meaning they are supposed to have.

Racism is the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

that is racism.

Calling someone a Mexican is not racism, it's identifying a persons country of origin. Calling someone a dirty spic that can only pick vegetables is racist. Saying all Mexicans drive low riders is a form of prejudice, but not racist.

The unfortunate thing is that when we keep using words in the wrong context the words that should have a sharp reaction lose that intended consequence. Calling someone a racist should be a terrible accusation. Instead it's just another word these days because the media and people that speak the language keep using words in the wrong way.

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@McGentrix,

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One thing I have always told my kids as they have grown is that words mean things and when you use them wrong, they cease to have meaning.

Like using an adjective instead of an adverb?

You're dead wrong, you can't exclusively define racism so it only covers the most extreme racist incidents. Racism can be something as mild as just feeling uncomfortable standing next to someone from another culture. It's still racism. You don't get to redefine the English language to suit your own prejudices.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Q: Were you a socialist; or even a Communist?

A: What? Have you been listening to me?

Considering that he wrote that he was "much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic", I'd doubt that his answer would have been as glib as that. He frequently rejected communism, saw Marxism as having some good points but being ultimately flawed, allowed that what was needed was democratic socialism, and praised social democracy. In short, he was eloquent about the differences between communism and different forms of socialism, and it seems unlikely, in my impression, that he would accept throwing them in the same basket and rejecting them all with some rhetorical flourish like this.

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@Real Music,

Well let's just say that I'm not white. But I find it interesting that you think that a black man who is against his own race is racist. So that begs the question do you denounce black people who kill other black people or black people who call other black people nigger?

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@Real Music,

Because it appears as though members of a minority need to be the victim in order to be relevant.

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@Real Music,

Generally speaking I believe that Asians who live in the United States think that they are better than most other people that live here. And I'm not saying whether or not that's good or bad. Because I really don't have an opinion on that because I can see an argument for both sides of the equation.

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@McGentrix,

I agree with you there's a difference between prejudice and racism most people use the two terms interchangeably. And when most people say racism because they don't understand the difference what they're talking about is prejudice. Everybody has a little prejudiced its natural.

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@McGentrix,

I'm curious why do you think it's interesting?

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@nimh,

nimh wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Q: Were you a socialist; or even a Communist?

A: What? Have you been listening to me?

Considering that he wrote that he was "much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic", I'd doubt that his answer would have been as glib as that. He frequently rejected communism, saw Marxism as having some good points but being ultimately flawed, allowed that what was needed was democratic socialism, and praised social democracy. In short, he was eloquent about the differences between communism and different forms of socialism, and it seems unlikely, in my impression, that he would accept throwing them in the same basket and rejecting them all with some rhetorical flourish like this.

Perhaps but that imaginary answer was not meant to suggest that he was or wasn't a socialist or a communist but that in the overall achievements of his life, what precise name he adopted for his ideology was immaterial.

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@izzythepush,

Well of course you can define racism and McGentrix gave you the exact definition. Not wanting to stand next to somebody is not racism that's prejudice. As human beings as people we all have a little Prejudice in us. It's Perfectly Natural.
You're just lucky that Republicans and conservatives are not considered a race otherwise you'd be one of the biggest racists on a2k.

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@AC14747,

It's actually pretty simple.

Racism is believing that one or more races are inherently inferior to one in particular.

Not wanting to stand next to someone because they are black could meet the definition of racism, but if it's because they are afraid of getting mugged, it's prejudice.

Of course it's not as if prejudice is a virtue while racism is the most heinous of crimes a human could commit (although the Left like to think the latter is true).

Neither is anything to be proud of and is indicative of flaws in a person's character.

But prejudice transcends race and is, in my opinion, a lot more prevalent than racism, again though, it is never a virtue except perhaps in a moment of life and death crisis...but then, only if your prejudice turns to have been accurate.

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@AC14747,

Nothing about this definition of racism

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Racism is the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

indicates that a person can't be racist against their race. It just affirms that self-hating people on account of their race are racist against their race. These people believe they possess traits that make them inferior to at least one other race, which means they've determined a racial hierarchy and placed their race at the bottom.

There's a more specific term for it. Internalized racism.

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@AC14747,

AC14747 wrote:

I agree with you there's a difference between prejudice and racism

That's exactly what gooey said. It doesn't matter how many times you change your user name, it's still a load of old bollocks.

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