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Will Donald Trump Be Afraid To Debate Hillary Clinton?

 
 
Krumple
 
  0  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 02:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

He's already proved to everybody that he's a fraud. Why is he still getting any support?


As terrible as he is, he's still not a murderer.
parados
 
  6  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 02:36 pm
@Krumple,
Krumple wrote:



As terrible as he is, he's still not a murderer.

Did you run out of tin foil this week?
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giujohn
 
  -3  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 02:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

The real issue is whether her emails were hacked into. That leaves everybody guessing, because there's no evidence for it. That she deleted 33,000 emails is moot on its face.
That doesn't excuse her for deleting those emails after receiving the subpoena.
A guy who goes by the name of Guccifer claims he hacked into Hillary's email, but provided no proof.

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/guccifer-clinton-server-hack-lie/\
Guccifer is now serving time in prison.


The issue is she exposed classified information to being hacked...and they obviously we're.
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giujohn
 
  -3  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 02:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
When did I say I was privy to it?
giujohn
 
  -3  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 02:58 pm
@parados,
You don't seem to live in the real world.
giujohn
 
  -2  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 02:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Because people know the alternative is a disaster.
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parados
 
  7  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 04:15 pm
@giujohn,
Who is making the claim that they are privy to what every FBI agent thinks? Perhaps you don't know what the real world is like.
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parados
 
  10  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 04:16 pm
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:

When did I say I was privy to it?

Quote:
Everyone at the FBI except the director who apparently was being directed by the administration and Bill Clinton believes that Hillary should have been indicted


Either you are privy to what everyone at the FBI thinks or you are talking out of your ass.

My guess is you are talking out of your ass.
giujohn
 
  -2  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 05:24 pm
@parados,
No...I trust the journalistic excellence that comes from Fox news because the are not afraid to report the truth and are fair and balanced!!!!!
snood
 
  9  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 05:33 pm
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:

No...I trust the journalistic excellence that comes from Fox news because the are not afraid to report the truth and are fair and balanced!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
<gasping for breath> Fox News... the truth...wait... I can't...
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 06:31 pm
@snood,
http://www.mintpressnews.com/pants-on-fire-analysis-shows-60-of-fox-news-facts-are-really-lies/205563/

60% of Fox news are really lies.
giujohn
 
  -2  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 07:24 pm
@cicerone imposter,
http://thefederalist.com/2015/04/29/punditfact-a-case-study-in-fact-free-hackery/

The makers of the above lie.
giujohn
 
  -2  
Sun 16 Oct, 2016 07:28 pm
@snood,
Code brown to the guards break room, STAT...Snood just **** his pants again.
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blatham
 
  3  
Mon 17 Oct, 2016 05:48 am
Respite from ugliness.

Pierre Trudeau died in 2000. At the funeral, his eldest son, Justin, gave a eulogy. If you watch this video of that eulogy from 16 years ago, you'll understand quite clearly why Justin is now our Prime Minister https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p4NUJMPAjQ

ps - The honorary pallbearers at that funeral were:
Jimmy Carter
Leonard Cohen
Aga Khan
Fidel Castro
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parados
 
  8  
Mon 17 Oct, 2016 06:43 am
@giujohn,
You trust Fox News. I go to the original sources whenever possible.

Who do you think is better informed about the FBI's report? The person who read it or the person that relied on other people to read it for them and then tell them what was in it?

revelette2
 
  3  
Mon 17 Oct, 2016 08:52 am
Quote:
Fox News host Chris Wallace has said his role is to be “a timekeeper,” not a “truth squad” who fact-checks the candidates when he moderates the final presidential debate of this election on Wednesday. But that statement stands in stark contrast to Wallace’s previous effort to fact-check eventual Republican nominee Donald Trump while serving as a moderator of Fox News’ March Republican primary debate. Wallace even explained after that debate that because Trump frequently repeats the same lies, he had taken steps to ensure he could “fact-check him” “in real time.”

Shortly after Wallace was announced as the moderator of the final general election debate, Fox News host Howard Kurtz asked Wallace what he planned to do if the nominees “make assertions that you know are untrue.” Wallace replied, “That's not my job. I do not believe it is my job to be a truth squad. It's up to the other person to catch them on that.” He later added that such “truth squading” is “a step too far.” He reiterated during an October 16 interview that he believes the proper role of a moderator is to merely act as “a timekeeper,” not “a participant.”

That stance undeniably helps Trump, who has an unparalleled history of telling lies throughout the campaign. Indeed, Trump praised Wallace’s comments, saying, “I think the candidates should police themselves.”

Wallace’s assertion contradicts his performance as a co-moderator of the March 3 Fox News Republican primary debate. During one exchange with Trump over the candidate’s economic plan, Wallace repeatedly said that Trump’s “numbers don’t add up,” stated that Trump was incorrect to say that one of his proposals would cut the deficit by “hundreds of billions of dollars,” and explained to the candidate -- and the audience -- that it “doesn’t cut the federal deficit.” Wallace’s exchange with Trump relied on what Washington Post media reporter Callum Borchers called “instant, graphical fact-checks” and “full-screen graphics” that “cast serious doubt over the feasibility of Trump’s [economic] plans.”

Borchers praised Wallace for producing “a memorable TV moment that will likely have people talking about his fact-checks after the debate.” The Post’s Erik Wemple similarly wrote that the “revolutionary” fact-checking graphics forced Trump to “look at the data” without being able to spin the facts.

Wallace himself even noted the importance of fact-checking Trump after the March 3 debate. During a March 10 interview on Fox host Brian Kilmeade’s radio show, Wallace described the thinking behind the video fact checks, saying that “the only way you could catch [Trump] is in real time, in effect what the newspapers do the next day or the blogs do hours later, … fact-check him”:

Quote:
BRIAN KILMEADE (HOST): You held his feet to the fire there, and it never added up.

[...]

CHRIS WALLACE: Here was the deal -- and I’m glad you liked it, I must say a lot of people did -- when you’re talking to Trump, he throws around a lot of numbers and you know, I thought, it was funny, there is a tremendous amount of planning that goes into these debates and I thought the only way you could catch him is in real time, in effect what the newspapers do the next day or the blogs do hours later, is fact-check him. There were about three or four things I knew he might say, like cut these departments, or we could negotiate a better deal on drugs, so I had these four full screens made up.


Chris Wallace is still moderating the debate. Donald Trump is still one of the candidates. The only difference between when Wallace thought fact-checking was vital and when he decided it was improper “truth squading” is that Trump’s opponent is no longer a group of Republicans, but Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

This debate may be the last chance a journalist has to ask questions of Trump before a national audience. But as Wallace’s own comments make clear, without vigorous, “real time” fact-checking, Trump will be able to lie to that audience with impunity.


Links at the source.
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giujohn
 
  -3  
Mon 17 Oct, 2016 09:34 am
@parados,
I'll rely on Fox news's unnamed FBI sources who don't have a political axe to grind and who not forced to say or do things based on the Obama administration's command.
cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Mon 17 Oct, 2016 10:48 am
@giujohn,
What "Obama administration's command" are you talking about? Do you understand how our government works? You need to go back to grade school and study civics.
Baldimo
 
  -2  
Mon 17 Oct, 2016 10:57 am
@cicerone imposter,
"I've got a pen and I've got a phone." It could be one of those commands, Obama over stepping his authority, writing EO's and EA's because Congress won't concede to his demands and wants.
snood
 
  5  
Mon 17 Oct, 2016 10:59 am
@Baldimo,
Well, you have to admit it's quite a feat to pull off being weak and ineffectual at the same time as being a dictatorial tyrant.
 

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