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Will Donald Trump Be Afraid To Debate Hillary Clinton?

 
 
Lash
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 04:15 pm
Condi and McCain call on him to step aside.
Krumple
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 04:26 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Condi and McCain call on him to step aside.


He can't his ego is too big if he tried he would still be in.

I find it funny that a sexist comment made over a decade ago is so damning that he should step aside but email/server scandal which is a clear violation of policy isn't damning Hillary.

It's not even illegal to say sexist things.

Hillary was against gay rights, but that should be forgotten, she has changed, but Trump, once a sexist always a sexist. Hypocrisy at its finest.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 04:33 pm
@Krumple,
It's what he said in the comment that makes it sexual harassment which is illegal in this country.
Lash
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 04:35 pm
@Krumple,
The MSM has belonged to HRC from the beginning. Of course, Trump is smarmy, but he basically said things that Bill Clinton did (and likely still does).

They crucify one guy, and run interference for the other.

Infuriatingly transparent to a lot of very pissed voters.
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Lash
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 04:36 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Rape and threats of violence are illegal. Bill and Hill are way overdue for a cell.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 04:37 pm
@Lash,
Are you the law? Prove your claims from reliable sources.
Krumple
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 04:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Are you the law? Prove your claims from reliable sources.


Here is the thing, even if we had a surveillance video of Hilliary shooting someone in the head and turning to the camera saying, "I'm Hillary Clinton and I endorse this message." Her supporters would shrug and say they didn't see anything wrong. Or they would say the video is bad but they still can't support Trump.
Real Music
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 04:53 pm
@Krumple,
According to Donald Chump himself, you are giving a description of Donald Chump's supporters.
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roger
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 05:15 pm
@DrewDad,
True
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Lash
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 05:16 pm
@Krumple,
LOL. The shenanigans that they perpetrated at the convention to hide the multitudes of pissed Bernie supporters and dearth of anybody that gave a **** about that bag of lies was laughable.

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blatham
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 06:03 pm
A few things look pretty certain at this point.

1) Obama's approval numbers were at 55 before this latest Trump news. That's slightly above Reagan's numbers at the same point in his second term. Simply as a matter of such stark contrast with Trump on character and family, Obama's approval is going to continue its upward trend. Historically, this has strong ramifications for the election.

2) As we've seen over the last couple of days, almost no female Republicans running for office or previously in office or previously candidates or working in media are continuing to endorse Trump and are being public about their position. We have every reason to assume that large margins of females, married or not, who normally go out to vote for the GOP candidate, will now either not vote for him or will not vote at all. Some will cast a write-in vote but some have already stated their vote goes to Clinton. As Romney and McCain gained a majority of married females in prior elections, this will have very serious consequences for the presidential election and for down-ballot races as well.

3) Following the first debate and prior to this latest Trump revelation, the dependable polling sites were already suggesting that Dems once again could be more confident about a Senate majority. Obviously, that trend will now only increase. There will be further positive (for Dems) trends in the House as well but it still looks like a lock for the GOP there, but the size of that majority will diminish more than expected. I'm not up enough on state races to comment other than to suggest the trends above will be reflected there as well.

4) Everything I've been able to read on the question of Trump getting the boot by the RNC suggests that Rule 9 does not allow this option unless Trump removes himself and that apparently isn't going to happen (because he's not a sane creature). Even if Trump somehow disappears, the GOP's problems appear insurmountable - ballots already printed, voting already underway, who replaces him and under what mechanism? etc.

5) It is inconceivable that the debate tomorrow night will see a disciplined and happy, balanced, sane Trump. And given what we've seen already, it's likewise inconceivable that Trump will find any way to damage Clinton or make her lose her balance. The far greater likelihood is that Trump will continue to make matters worse for himself and the GOP.

6) Because media generally tend to behave like sharks, moving towards the blood in the water, and because there is surely more revelations like the one from Friday about to emerge, the dynamics are strongly in the direction we can witness presently.
snood
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 06:06 pm
@blatham,
A fine exposition of the matters at hand, sir.
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snood
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 06:24 pm
Did anyone think that was the last they would hear of Trump being a perverted lecherous POS?

They just unearthed a bunch of Howard Stern tapes from around 2008. I bet they can dig up something for every year between then and now.

On a new batch of recordings from Howard Stern’s radio shows aired Saturday by CNN, Trump said he would “have no problem” having sex with 24-year-olds, that he “couldn’t care less” if he satisfies the women he sleeps with, that “it’s checkout time” once women reach the age of 35 and that he had engaged in three-way sex.

“Haven’t we all?” Trump told Stern on his SiriusXM satellite show in 2008. “Are we babies?”

Trump also described barging in on nude Miss Universe beauty pageant contestants in their dressing room, characterizing his visits as inspections by the contest’s owner.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-trump-tapes-surface-with-crude-sex-remarks/ar-BBxbcus?li=BBnb7Kz
McGentrix
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 07:35 pm
I've never seen so many adults afraid of the word "pussy". It's like a foreign word to them. and seriously, tape from 11 years ago? Who gives a ****. Trump can have all the pussy he wants. Bill sure did and, apparently, Hillary did to.

Remember the whole cigar trick in the White House? Where do you suppose Bill was inserting that?
blatham
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 07:43 pm
@snood,
Before the GOP primaries, Republican strategists were worried about the consequences of running against a female presidential candidate because it looked likely to certain that women voters would respond positively to the prospect of a woman in the White House. Women's vote are very important. Thus, eight years ago, they tried to turn women voters against Obama with the narrative that he'd cheated Hillary out of the nomination. As I've noted before, Clintons4McCain was actually a GOP dirty tricks project (the domain was registered to the RNC).

As a Hillary candidacy began to look increasingly likely for this cycle, the right mounted a campaign designed to discredit her honesty and trust-worthiness. There looks to be two basic rationales for this strategy: 1) there had already been in place a long history of this narrative used to discredit Bill and Hillary as he approached the WH and as Hillary set to the project of her health care plan (see the famous Kristol memo from '93) and 2) they realized they needed to avoid overt and transparent appeals to misogynism because that would surely turn female voters against them.

Then along comes Trump and blows all of this into smithereens. And as you say, snood, there's going to be much more just because of who this guy is. I very much doubt there's a happy Republican anywhere this weekend.
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blatham
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 07:48 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
I've never seen so many adults afraid of the word "pussy".


Surely you aren't this dim. The language isn't the problem. I'd expect it is a rare individual, male or female, who has not used that term.

The salient element here is sexual assault. Had he said, "Because I'm a star, I can get away with grabbing any woman's vagina (or crotch, etc) when I want to and I've done it lots of times" the response to such a demented boast would be the same.
McGentrix
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 07:56 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
I've never seen so many adults afraid of the word "pussy".


Surely you aren't this dim. The language isn't the problem. I'd expect it is a rare individual, male or female, who has not used that term.

The salient element here is sexual assault. Had he said, "Because I'm a star, I can get away with grabbing any woman's vagina (or crotch, etc) when I want to and I've done it lots of times" the response to such a demented boast would be the same.


You have video of him doing it or just boasting about it? He's a player. Watch a rap video, there are worse that Donald Trump out there.

Bill enjoyed soaking a cigar in vagina secretions in the Oval Office. Where is the disgust? I'm a bit of a sexual adventurist and that goes too far for me. Real life and talk are two very separated playing fields. This is merely more fake outrage for the camera's eye.

I'll say the same thing about this as I did about Bill Clinton fooling around... if you can't get pussy when you are rich and famous, what's the point?
blatham
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 08:30 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
You have video of him doing it or just boasting about it?

There are reports from other women, including testimony, of him assaulting them in this manner and worse. These were unwanted, unasked for instances of physical sexual assault. And there will surely be more.

Quote:
Bill enjoyed soaking a cigar in vagina secretions in the Oval Office. Where is the disgust?

I have no disgust here other than as regards his marriage vows and the difference in power between those two individuals. The act itself, consensual sex play, bothers me not in the least. The location bothers me even less.

If it is the case that you are unable or unwilling to differentiate these instances, then you are a lost cause.

McGentrix
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 08:38 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
You have video of him doing it or just boasting about it?

There are reports from other women, including testimony, of him assaulting them in this manner and worse. These were unwanted, unasked for instances of physical sexual assault. And there will surely be more.


Shocked

Seriously?

Bill Clinton sexual misconduct allegations

roger
 
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Sat 8 Oct, 2016 08:46 pm
@McGentrix,
Okay, I believe most, if not all of that. Bill Clinton isn't running for president.
 

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