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Can the Soul die?

 
 
Leadfoot
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 05:57 am
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
One thing is believing that God "had a hand in its contents." Another thing is making the assertion that one must pass a single thread through it.
If there was not a single thread of logic running through a book that God had a hand in, he would be a pretty shitty God, wouldn't he?
Smileyrius
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 06:36 am
@BroRando,
An interesting thought on the word YOM In Genesis 2 The Hebrew God says to Adam, quoting the NWT
Quote:
in the day you eat from it you will certainly die

Now Adam Interestingly, did not die in that "day". in fact the story goes on to say he lived for 930 "YOMs" having many sons and daughters, we can rule out this Yom referring to days or weeks, or he would have been just 6 months or 2 years old when he had Seth, if we consider it to refer to months, he would have been just 10 when he had Seth, but to kick it further upfield, keep in mind he already had Cain and Abel before that, and they were old enough to tend sheep and farm crops when Cain killed his brother, an event recorded as prior to the birth of Seth.

so I find it safe to assume that the Yom in which he was to die was 1000 years, which no man was expressed in scripture to have lived beyond, albeit close, Methuselah being the oldest man recorded as 969 years old when he died.

Later, Noah was then recorded as being 500 Yoms when he had children, before post flood, God then reduced the Yoms to 120 years (Hebrew "Shawneh"). The oldest fully authenticated person in recent times lived to 122 years.

This is why I always find the studies around the word Yom an interesting one, if scripture is indeed a reflection of Mans history, it is a game changer.

BroRando
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 09:09 am
@Smileyrius,
Thank you for your answer. I think I like you. Smile Adam died within the Day of a Thousand Years. "So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died." (Genesis 5:5) Here's one of the scritures that point to more spiritual understanding. "However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. " (2 Peter 3:8)
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Smileyrius
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 09:31 am
@InfraBlue,
It depends on how you view the bible Infra. If you believe it to be a book of fables, each telling their own story, you have no need for a common theme, it is then "just a good book"

I personally believe the bible to be a book detailing the parts of our reality that we would need to know, but could not know by our own observation and understanding. It only seems logical to me that such a book would have a purpose and common theme.
InfraBlue
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 10:15 am
@Smileyrius,
Ok. You hadn't explained your caveat. Thanks.
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InfraBlue
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 10:17 am
@Leadfoot,
Leadfoot wrote:

Quote:
One thing is believing that God "had a hand in its contents." Another thing is making the assertion that one must pass a single thread through it.
If there was not a single thread of logic running through a book that God had a hand in, he would be a pretty shitty God, wouldn't he?

He's a pretty shitty God regardless.
Smileyrius
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 11:25 am
@InfraBlue,
He certainly isn't pleasing the crowds
BroRando
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 11:41 am
@InfraBlue,
Hello,
I hope today you are safe. Thank you for your comments. I have a question for you and would like your opinion on the matter.

Who really controls the world?

Do you think it is .....
* God?
* Humankind?
* Someon else?
neologist
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 12:58 pm
@Sturgis,
Sturgis wrote:
. . . (the Bible) was created and written by people (mostly male) and has been revised and rewritten dozens upon dozens of times over the centuries. . .
Of course.
But surely, a God powerful enough to inspire dozens of authors through so many centuries would be sufficiently powerful to oversee and control any possible edits.
neologist
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 01:00 pm
@InfraBlue,
All the yarn you may require to spin your own conviction.
ehBeth
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 01:06 pm
@neologist,
hundreds of people over the centuries have written about many different gods

which batch of authors is correct?
ehBeth
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 01:07 pm
@BroRando,
BroRando wrote:

Who really controls the world?


why do you think the world is controlled in any way by any entity/reaction?
neologist
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 01:08 pm
@InfraBlue,
Smileyrius wrote:
...it is useful to try to understand what is in the bible, so we use our best guesses to try to pass a single thread through all of what we read.
InfraBlue wrote:
Why "must" we try to pass a single thread through all of what we read, though?
It seems helpful to have a consistent world view.
Unless you choose to be the forever devil's advocate.
neologist
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 01:16 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
hundreds of people over the centuries have written about many different gods

which batch of authors is correct?
I can't speak for the writings of the many world religions. But my evaluation of the Bible has found it to be consistent.
neologist
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 01:17 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
. . . why do you think the world is controlled in any way by any entity/reaction?
Perhaps a cursory viewing of the evening news. . .
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Leadfoot
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 01:56 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
Lead:
"If there was not a single thread of logic running through a book that God had a hand in, he would be a pretty shitty God, wouldn't he?"

Infra:
He's a pretty shitty God regardless.
If I thought so I wouldn't go through so much to find that thread. I'll admit that during the process there was a point where I thought he was worse than just shitty, but I kept following the thread. Glad I did, it was more than worth it.
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BroRando
 
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Thu 2 Jun, 2016 02:20 pm
@ehBeth,
I look at the world today and see things getting worse. Twenty or 30 years ago I would pick up a hitch hiker and help him out. Wouldn't do that today would you? It's becoming more dangerous. Society seems to be leaning toward atheistism. It's against the law to pray at school? Bibles removed from Federal buildings. And people blame God or want to deny his existence. Just an Observation.
InfraBlue
 
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Fri 3 Jun, 2016 12:00 pm
@Smileyrius,
Smileyrius wrote:

He certainly isn't pleasing the crowds

Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean by that. Most of the people of the world believe in the Abrahamic god. As far as displeasure with him goes, maybe they're something like Jonah, resistant to his dictates.
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InfraBlue
 
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Fri 3 Jun, 2016 12:04 pm
@BroRando,
BroRando wrote:

Hello,
I hope today you are safe. Thank you for your comments. I have a question for you and would like your opinion on the matter.

Who really controls the world?

Do you think it is .....
* God?
* Humankind?
* Someon else?

In regard to human endeavors on earth, humankind controls them down to the very individual instances of them.
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InfraBlue
 
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Fri 3 Jun, 2016 12:05 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

All the yarn you may require to spin your own conviction.

I certainly am convinced.
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