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Why Obamacare is a Failure

 
 
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 07:14 pm
@edgarblythe,
AWESOME!!!! (giggled)
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2016 07:15 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

I have never used it so far.

In case you missed my answer.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2016 03:18 pm
25% hike in Obamacare fees seems pretty high to me.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2016 05:08 pm
@edgarblythe,
LOL. I guess some people hate facts.

BTW, saw my nephrologist this morning for $25. I get good medical care for $25. Your down thumb don't hurt me none; I love my Medicare.

A 25% increase in one year on anything is unusual and very frightening. However:
First get the facts.
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/obamacare-premiums-are-going-what-does-really-mean-n672566

Also, http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/25/opinions/affordable-health-care-exchange-premiums-jost/
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2016 05:46 am
Micheal Moore gets it.

Obamacare might get Trump elected. Donald Trump is a big '**** you' to the corrupt system.

http://wearechange.org/michael-moore-says-vote-trump-vote-system/

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2016 12:31 pm
@Lash,
Worth noting:
Quote:
Only 10 million Americans get insurance through the marketplaces created by the 2010 Affordable Care Act, and the prices they pay vary not only state by state but county by county.

Related: Health Care Costs All Over the Map

A report out Tuesday from health consultancy firm Avalere Health says many of those slapped with big premium increases can switch plans within the exchange program and get a better deal.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2016 05:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I saw News recently saying that if people shopped around carefully, they may find deals that constitute an 11% increase rather than a 25%.

I'm one of the Americans who already struggle to pay my premium--

I'm forced to pay or forced to pay a penalty. It's wrong.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2016 06:19 pm
@Lash,
I really feel badly for people like you. That's the reason I have always advocated for universal health care. Many countries with universal health care have very high income tax rates, and many also have long waiting times. I'm not sure there are simple solutions.
Being under Medicare has been a blessing for me because of my kidney failure. Visits to a doctor costs only $25 at Kaiser. The hospital is only one block from our home.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2016 08:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
My insurance was comparable as a teacher in California before Obamacare.
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2016 08:49 pm
@Lash,
If you are struggling to pay your premium then you would be eligible for a subsidy. Unless of course you live in one of those states where the GOP has decided they don't want you to get a subsidy. Which would not be the fault of the ACA.
chai2
 
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Reply Thu 27 Oct, 2016 08:53 pm
@parados,
She may be meaning her premium with the subsidy.

When you pick your plan it automatically subtracts it, doesn't it?
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Miller
 
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Reply Fri 28 Oct, 2016 02:57 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

BTW, saw my nephrologist this morning for $25. I get good medical care for $25. I love my Medicare.


Yes, you love your Medicare, but you never mention your Medicare Advantage insurance. Why?

Yes, you get good medical care for $25, and you are among the very few Americans in the US, who can get quality care for $25. The quality of care is not a function, of whether or not you're on Medicare. It's a function ( at least in part), of your location in the US. Your Medical Center, that treats you in California is very well known for having an excellent Residency training program. In part your excellent care derives from the excellent MDs, who train there.

You could go to another State, pay $25 for a "visit" with a provider and receive very poor "care" if any care at all.

The folks receiving excellent care in the Boston area pay with cash, and keep an army of Doctors "on retainers" by paying a $2000-$5000 per year membership fee to join a very special group plan offered at major Harvard hospitals. If need be, at any time and on any day of week, month, year, you are able to see a "high-end" medical specialist. Medicare is not accepted. Insurance is not accepted.

This plan is legal. However, it is only for those who have the funds to pay for it. "Special plans for special folks".

And so it goes...

Lash
 
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Reply Fri 28 Oct, 2016 04:37 am
@parados,
The fact that I am forced by law to pay it anyway IS the fault of the Unaffordable CA.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 28 Oct, 2016 07:19 am
@Miller,
That is true for any medical insurance plan, though.

And any service, really.

There are good mechanics, bad mechanics, indifferent mechanics. There are good dentists, bad dentists, indifferent dentists. There are good hotels, bad hotels, indifferent hotels....
parados
 
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Reply Fri 28 Oct, 2016 07:47 am
@Lash,
Oh. You are one of those people. All for personal responsibility as long is it only means other people need to act responsibly.
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 28 Oct, 2016 08:50 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

Oh. You are one of those people. All for personal responsibility as long is it only means other people need to act responsibly.


B.I.N.G.O.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 28 Oct, 2016 08:59 am
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:
There are good hotels, bad hotels, indifferent hotels....


Right.

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/1050db719e344559b540476d99a0d626/the-entrance-to-badhotel-uberlingen-germany-a63ggg.jpg
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 28 Oct, 2016 09:17 am
@parados,
I'm one of the people who had affordable, decent insurance until Obama fucked with it. Now I'm obviously being gouged to pay for others.

I'm one of those people.

There are a lot of us.
maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 28 Oct, 2016 09:32 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I'm one of the people who had affordable, decent insurance until Obama fucked with it. Now I'm obviously being gouged to pay for others.

I'm one of those people.

There are a lot of us.


I too remember those good ole days when healthcare costs NEVER rose year over year. Those days were magical. I'm having a hard time remembering when those were...can you help?
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maporsche
 
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Reply Fri 28 Oct, 2016 09:34 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I'm one of the people who had affordable, decent insurance until Obama fucked with it. Now I'm obviously being gouged to pay for others.

I'm one of those people.

There are a lot of us.


So your taxes are going to those who can't afford healthcare and you're MAD about it????

I thought you were a liberal/progressive now? I'm so confused.
 

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