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National Review Calls Bernie Sanders A Nazi

 
 
Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 09:08 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
In fact I find it amazing that the jews just do not place them on ships and have them find homes far away from Israel as we did with moving the tribes out west and away from our eastern populations centers.

You also killed quite a lot of them Indians, in order to steal their land. So yeah, the comparisson is apt.

Putting all Jews in boats and letting them settle elsewhere was also among Hitler's original plans. Then he decided to kill them all instead. I fear the same will happen to the Pals: either mass deportaiton, or mass killing.

Both Israelis and Palestinians have a right to defend themselves, IMO. But in any case, Bernie is perfectly entitled to criticise Israel's decisions without being called a Nazi.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 09:28 am
@Olivier5,
Poor Bernia is a fool but not a nazis indeed.

As far as the poor Indians being kill look up the story of the lost colony of VA or how tribe after tribe had join our enemies and fought us in our history.

footnote the indians tribes lands that we took away from them was gotten from others tribes in the same manner as we got their lands.

We was just a hell lot better at warfare then they happen to be.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 10:24 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
Poor Bernia is a fool but not a nazis indeed.

Thanks. He's not even a fool, he's just trying to be fair.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 11:00 am
@Olivier5,
He is a fool and would not be able or even willing to protect our interests.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 11:09 am
@BillRM,
He would have protected you from losing blood and treasure in Iraq though.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 12:26 pm
@Olivier5,
Yes he would have save us from the error of the second gulf war but he would had not acted when needed in the first gulf war and even a broken clock is right two times a day.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 04:15 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Poor Bernia is a fool but not a nazis indeed.

As far as the poor Indians being kill look up the story of the lost colony of VA or how tribe after tribe had join our enemies and fought us in our history.

footnote the indians tribes lands that we took away from them was gotten from others tribes in the same manner as we got their lands.

We was just a hell lot better at warfare then they happen to be.

Hey, G. A. Custer, here's a hint for you, we're no longer in the nineteenth century. The US has since given the Indians full citizenship. The Zionists have given the Palestinians mega-concentration camps and no Right of Return. Get with the twenty-first century, m'kay.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 04:36 pm
Bill is a perfect example of the dictum that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Roanoke Island was only a part of Virginia to the extent that all of North America was called Virginia at the time of settlement of Roanoke Island. The island is actually a part of Dare Country, North Carolina. The story which John Smith attributed to Powhatan to the effect that he had attacked and destroyed the colony is doubtful, as those aboriginals were not seafarers.

It is likely that they were attacked by aboriginals, but they were also rescued by aboriginals. In 1709, John Lawson wrote:

A farther Confirmation of this we have from the Hatteras Indians, who either then lived on Ronoak-Island, or much frequented it. These tell us, that several of their Ancestors were white People, and could talk in a Book, as we do; the Truth of which is confirm'd by gray Eyes being found frequently amongst these Indians, and no others. They value themselves extremely for their Affinity to the English, and are ready to do them all friendly Offices. It is probable, that this Settlement miscarry'd for want of timely Supplies from England; or thro' the Treachery of the Natives, for we may reasonably suppose that the English were forced to cohabit with them, for Relief and Conversation; and that in process of Time, they conform'd themselves to the Manners of their Indian Relations.

French Huguenots, some of the earliest settlers of the North Carolina colony, even before 1700 reported encountering blond-haired and blue-eyed "Indians" who said that they were descended from the Roanoke Island colonists, and who were proud of their English blood.

No part of the history of relations between Europeans and aboriginals is as simple and as simple-minded as Bill would claim. Both sides made war on one another, and usually without warning.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 05:07 pm
@Setanta,
Sorry but one hell of searches was done for members of the colony with the idea that they merge with some friendly tribe and even of late using modern DNA search the results of the searches had been zero.

Nor is it logical to think that any survivors would not leave messages for any follow up Europeans.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 05:19 pm
@BillRM,
As usual, not only do you not know what the hell you're talking about, you don't provide any sources for your bullsh*t claim.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 05:20 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/31423/title/Lost-Colony-DNA/

Archaeological digs, weather records, historical writings, genealogy—none have fully answered the question of what happened during White’s absence. But Roberta Estes, who owns DNAeXplain, a company that interprets the results of genetic heritage tests, is looking to DNA for help. Her hypothesis is that the Lost Colonists survived, and that evidence of their salvation is tucked away in the mitochondrial or Y chromosomal DNA of living descendents.

“They were stranded,” Estes says of the settlers. “They knew they couldn’t survive there on the island.” The colonists’ solution, in her estimation, was to go native.

“Croatoan,” Estes explains, was a message to White indicating that the colonists had gone to live with the Croatan Indians who lived on nearby Hatteras Island. Estes’s volunteer organization, the Lost Colony Research Group, is recruiting people from the area to submit DNA samples and family histories to test her theory.

Studying patterns of short tandem repeats (STRs) on the Y chromosomes of living men can determine whether they are likely to share a common ancestor that was a member of the Lost Colony. For example, Estes can compare the STR profile of a man whose family history suggests that his ancestors lived on Hatteras Island in the 17th century against genetic databases to see if he’s related to anyone with a Lost Colonist surname, such as Dare, Hewet, or Rufoote.

Additionally, it’s possible to scan that man’s mitochondrial or Y chromosomal DNA for evidence of Native American heritage, creating a clearer picture of what became of the vanished colonists. “It is true that with Y chromosome and mitochondrial DNA you can assign them unequivocally to different ethnic groups,” says Ugo Perego, a senior researcher at the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation. But, he adds, it would be difficult to tell exactly when the European ancestry was introduced.

Estes has amassed early land-grant records detailing who lived in the Outer Banks area a few centuries ago. Some of the putative Native Americans living there are thought to have adopted the last names of their European neighbors, she says. If Estes can show that the descendents of these Native American families have DNA matching families with Lost Colony surnames, that would suggest that the colonists mixed with the Croatan Indians.

“It’s a romantic idea,” says Charles Ewen, an East Carolina University anthropology professor who is writing a book about the Lost Colony. Ewen, who’s also working with Estes on an archaeological dig in the Outer Banks, offers other possibilities for the Colony’s fate that are far less rosy. The settlers battled a severe drought while White was journeying back to England that could have made trying conditions worse; Native Americans or Spanish arrivals could have killed the settlers; or the colonists could have tried to sail back to Britain in White’s wake and perished.

Ewen says there are some historical examples of settlers assimilating into native groups, but none in which an entire colony was adopted. “I won’t rule it out, but the whole group forming new tribal identities? I don’t buy it.”

Estes’s group is commencing a new archaeological dig this year to look for Lost Colony artifacts. Previous digs on Hatteras Island have yielded British and Native American items in the same stratum of soil, thought to predate English homesteads from the 1700s, indicating that the groups commingled, she says.

Ewen says he hopes the dig can also help answer questions about the vanished Native Americans who once lived on the Outer Banks. “We don’t know what happened to them.” Like that of the Lost Colonists, the fate of the Croatan Indians is also buried in history.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 05:24 pm
@Setanta,
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As usual, not only do you not know what the hell you're talking about, you don't provide any sources for your bullsh*t claim.


My my I guess I should have research data on every subject in the world really to post instead of needing to search for remember readings and have a 30 minutes or so delay that you can complain about.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 05:26 pm
@BillRM,
You peddle bullsh*t. If you can't back it up, you can expect that people will call bullsh*t. Get over it.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 05:30 pm
@Setanta,
So the Scientist magazine article is not good enough for you my silly friend or are you complaining about the less then 30 minutes delay in posting follow up material?

In fact the delay was all of 13 minutes.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 05:35 pm
Jesus. You really can't see that the article you posted does not support your claim. Talking to you is pointless.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 05:38 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
Jesus. You really can't see that the article you posted does not support your claim. Talking to you is pointless.


That so far even fairly large scale searches including using DNA to date had not shown that the colony had any survivors?
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 05:45 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
The Zionists have given the Palestinians mega-concentration camps and no Right of Return. Get with the twenty-first century, m'kay.


If native Americans was bombing and shooting up any public place they could find from churches to buses to wedding and on and on I do not off hand think they would not have their freedom of movement limited.

footnote those so call concentration camps are not small cities and the Pals are the ones who force walls and check points to be put up over the years to keep Israel proper safe from such attacks.

Now they are shooting rockets over those walls in an attempt to killed more Jews.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 05:47 pm
@BillRM,
The article doesn't say that. Given how piss poor your coherence is when you attempt to write in English, i'm not suprised that your reading comprehension is also that piss poor.

More than that, though, you get so wrought up in attempting to make claims from authority, when we have no reason to assume that you are an authority, you can't even keep track of the conversation. It's like that time you were babbling about grape shot, and made claims for which you provided no evidence, you didn't even seem to understand that had that been true, it only reinforced my claim that aboriginals were not impressed by European military prowess. You're an idiot.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 05:53 pm
@Setanta,
The article had not list one bit of DNA evidence to date that would indicate that any of the colonies survive by merging into the local tribes!!!!!!!!
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2016 05:55 pm
@BillRM,
Look up the argument from ignorance fallacy, Billy. Although, given your apparent lack of reading comprehension, i doubt that that will sink in either.
 

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