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The Pro Hillary Thread

 
 
ossobuco
 
  2  
Wed 25 May, 2016 02:00 pm
@revelette2,
I remember that Lucy episode, for sure. It is probably still hillarious.

I do see the analogy to fielding Trump's output.
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ossobuco
 
  4  
Wed 25 May, 2016 02:02 pm
@revelette2,
I remember that Lucy episode, for sure. It is probably still hilarious.

I do see the analogy to fielding Trump's output.
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parados
 
  5  
Wed 25 May, 2016 07:45 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
And the media story that resulted from O'Keefe stinging himself...

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/05/30/james-okeefe-accidentally-stings-himself
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Lash
 
  -1  
Wed 25 May, 2016 07:59 pm
Frogmarched Hillary: Another path to the Bernie nomination.
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reasoning logic
 
  1  
Fri 27 May, 2016 07:39 pm
@snood,
Quote:
A lot of good Hillary does gets taken for granted, like how she is always talking about issues and always does her homework


Hillary is a smart lady but she is very corrupt and unethical just like her close friend Debby who was Clinton's national campaign co-chair 2007 and who is now the DNC chair.

Do you think that there could be just a little conflict of interest there or is this the standard for the democratic party?
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Lilkanyon
 
  1  
Fri 27 May, 2016 07:54 pm
I am Pro Hillary because she never gets enough credit for her pure experience in govt. All politicians have baggage. I find it unfair her baggage is overinflated and downright distorted into conspiracy theory dimensions. She is constantly punished for a long record of public service. Sure, it comes with scrutiny and depending on who you listen to, its less or more then what it is. If you are a Fox News watcher, she is evil encarnate...If you actually listen to Rush Limbaugh...well, Im sorry...your an idiot. Either way...shes done no worse or better then any other politician in our long years. Colin Powell, who I admire immensely, went in front of the UN and lied about the role of terrorism and nuclear materials in Iraq yet noone has held him accountable. Nor Rumsfeld, nor Cheney...yet Clinton becomes the evil of the modern era...its disgraceful!
reasoning logic
 
  0  
Fri 27 May, 2016 07:57 pm
@Lilkanyon,
Quote:
All politicians have baggage. I find it unfair her baggage is overinflated and downright distorted into conspiracy theory dimensions



What do you think about this conspiracy theory?

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=92357

Lilkanyon
 
  1  
Fri 27 May, 2016 08:00 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
All politicians have baggage. I find it unfair her baggage is overinflated and downright distorted into conspiracy theory dimensions



What do you think about this conspiracy theory?

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=92357




Umm, makes perfect sense......they are leaders for the DNC and a natural choice. How is that a conpiracy? Trump sure wants Ryan's endorsement...which btw...he hasnt gotten
yet.
reasoning logic
 
  1  
Fri 27 May, 2016 08:04 pm
@Lilkanyon,
You must not get it or do not care, Trump and Ryan are of no comparison or related to what I shared.
Lilkanyon
 
  1  
Fri 27 May, 2016 08:15 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

You must not get it or do not care, Trump and Ryan are of no comparison or related to what I shared.


Im not seeing anything surprising at all in what you shared...what are you trying to say by sharing it? Its a completely mundane political announcement that everyone would typically expect...
RABEL222
 
  1  
Fri 27 May, 2016 09:09 pm
@reasoning logic,
How about the republican supreme court stopping the recount in Florida in order to elect Bush president in 2000? Thats a republican conspiracy in fact, not in theory.
Lilkanyon
 
  2  
Fri 27 May, 2016 09:45 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/1602_10153418729616696_6842476517045812717_n.jpg?oh=d5672d79dcf6c14328881a16521141c2&oe=57AA491E


Do you even try to source that stuff, or is just being an accusation against Hillary legitimacy enough for you?


This is right wing garbage pulled off of right wing sites with no basis in fact. Lets talk policy and real world issues and leave this crap out the mix. Thanks
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Lilkanyon
 
  3  
Fri 27 May, 2016 09:49 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

How about the republican supreme court stopping the recount in Florida in order to elect Bush president in 2000? Thats a republican conspiracy in fact, not in theory.


Right! I cant say one way or the other how legit that call was, but now, the GOP wont acknowlege a new judge, even a moderate one...calls into question how "fair" they want to be. They have gone so far as to say, "lets see what america wants." Umm...they already decided that...obama was elected.
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reasoning logic
 
  1  
Fri 27 May, 2016 10:09 pm
@Lilkanyon,
Quote:
Im not seeing anything surprising at all in what you shared...what are you trying to say by sharing it? Its a completely mundane political announcement that everyone would typically expect...


I do understand what you mean by saying everyone would typically expect that but what many people are starting to understand is that these ethics rules violations are handicapping our society as a whole.
Debbie's partner in Florida seemed to share her idea of ethics publicly even when Debbie 11 years old
In 1977, Hastings became a judge of the circuit court of Broward County, Florida. In 1979, he was appointed by President Jimmy Carter as a U.S. district judge for the Southern District of Florida.

In 1981, Hastings was charged with accepting a $150,000 bribe in exchange for a lenient sentence and a return of seized assets for 21 counts of racketeering by Frank and Thomas Romano, and of perjury in his testimony about the case. In 1983, he was acquitted by a jury after his alleged co-conspirator, William Borders, refused to testify in court, resulting in a jail sentence for Borders.[3]

In 1988, the Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives took up the case, and Hastings was impeached for bribery and perjury by a vote of 413-3. He was then convicted in 1989 by the United States Senate becoming the sixth federal judge in the history of the United States to be removed from office by the Senate. The Senate, in two hours of roll calls, voted on 11 of the 17 articles of impeachment. It convicted Hastings of eight of the 11 articles. The vote on the first article was 69 for and 26 opposed.[4]

The Senate had the option to forbid Hastings from ever seeking federal office again, but did not do so. Alleged co-conspirator attorney William Borders went to jail again for refusing to testify in the impeachment proceedings, but was later given a full pardon by President Bill Clinton on his last day in office.[5]

Hastings filed suit in federal court claiming that his impeachment trial was invalid because he was tried by a Senate committee, not in front of the full Senate, and that he had been acquitted in a criminal trial. Judge Stanley Sporkin ruled in favor of Hastings, remanding the case to the Senate, but stayed his ruling pending the outcome of an appeal to the Supreme Court in a similar case regarding Judge Walter Nixon, who had also been impeached and removed.[6]

Sporkin found some "crucial distinctions"[7] between Nixon's case and Hastings', specifically, that Nixon had been convicted criminally, and that Hastings was not found guilty by two-thirds of the committee who actually "tried" his impeachment in the Senate. He further added that Hastings had a right to trial by the full Senate.

The Supreme Court, however, ruled in Nixon v. United States that the federal courts have no jurisdiction over Senate impeachment matters, so Sporkin's ruling was vacated and Hastings's conviction and removal were upheld.[8]
reasoning logic
 
  1  
Fri 27 May, 2016 10:10 pm
@RABEL222,
You seem correct to me.
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Lilkanyon
 
  2  
Fri 27 May, 2016 10:20 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
Im not seeing anything surprising at all in what you shared...what are you trying to say by sharing it? Its a completely mundane political announcement that everyone would typically expect...


I do understand what you mean by saying everyone would typically expect that but what many people are starting to understand is that these ethics rules violations are handicapping our society as a whole.
Debbie's partner in Florida seemed to share her idea of ethics publicly even when Debbie 11 years old
In 1977, Hastings became a judge of the circuit court of Broward County, Florida. In 1979, he was appointed by President Jimmy Carter as a U.S. district judge for the Southern District of Florida.


In 1981, Hastings was charged with accepting a $150,000 bribe in exchange for a lenient sentence and a return of seized assets for 21 counts of racketeering by Frank and Thomas Romano, and of perjury in his testimony about the case. In 1983, he was acquitted by a jury after his alleged co-conspirator, William Borders, refused to testify in court, resulting in a jail sentence for Borders.[3]

In 1988, the Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives took up the case, and Hastings was impeached for bribery and perjury by a vote of 413-3. He was then convicted in 1989 by the United States Senate becoming the sixth federal judge in the history of the United States to be removed from office by the Senate. The Senate, in two hours of roll calls, voted on 11 of the 17 articles of impeachment. It convicted Hastings of eight of the 11 articles. The vote on the first article was 69 for and 26 opposed.[4]

The Senate had the option to forbid Hastings from ever seeking federal office again, but did not do so. Alleged co-conspirator attorney William Borders went to jail again for refusing to testify in the impeachment proceedings, but was later given a full pardon by President Bill Clinton on his last day in office.[5]

Hastings filed suit in federal court claiming that his impeachment trial was invalid because he was tried by a Senate committee, not in front of the full Senate, and that he had been acquitted in a criminal trial. Judge Stanley Sporkin ruled in favor of Hastings, remanding the case to the Senate, but stayed his ruling pending the outcome of an appeal to the Supreme Court in a similar case regarding Judge Walter Nixon, who had also been impeached and removed.[6]

Sporkin found some "crucial distinctions"[7] between Nixon's case and Hastings', specifically, that Nixon had been convicted criminally, and that Hastings was not found guilty by two-thirds of the committee who actually "tried" his impeachment in the Senate. He further added that Hastings had a right to trial by the full Senate.

The Supreme Court, however, ruled in Nixon v. United States that the federal courts have no jurisdiction over Senate impeachment matters, so Sporkin's ruling was vacated and Hastings's conviction and removal were upheld.[8]



You are trully skimming the corners of the internet scum...the deep depths of desperation. Look up Trumps latest appointees and you may be humbled just a bit at how skank they are.
Lilkanyon
 
  1  
Fri 27 May, 2016 10:25 pm
@Lilkanyon,
Lilkanyon wrote:

reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
Im not seeing anything surprising at all in what you shared...what are you trying to say by sharing it? Its a completely mundane political announcement that everyone would typically expect...


I do understand what you mean by saying everyone would typically expect that but what many people are starting to understand is that these ethics rules violations are handicapping our society as a whole.
Debbie's partner in Florida seemed to share her idea of ethics publicly even when Debbie 11 years old
In 1977, Hastings became a judge of the circuit court of Broward County, Florida. In 1979, he was appointed by President Jimmy Carter as a U.S. district judge for the Southern District of Florida.




In 1981, Hastings was charged with accepting a $150,000 bribe in exchange for a lenient sentence and a return of seized assets for 21 counts of racketeering by Frank and Thomas Romano, and of perjury in his testimony about the case. In 1983, he was acquitted by a jury after his alleged co-conspirator, William Borders, refused to testify in court, resulting in a jail sentence for Borders.[3]

In 1988, the Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives took up the case, and Hastings was impeached for bribery and perjury by a vote of 413-3. He was then convicted in 1989 by the United States Senate becoming the sixth federal judge in the history of the United States to be removed from office by the Senate. The Senate, in two hours of roll calls, voted on 11 of the 17 articles of impeachment. It convicted Hastings of eight of the 11 articles. The vote on the first article was 69 for and 26 opposed.[4]

The Senate had the option to forbid Hastings from ever seeking federal office again, but did not do so. Alleged co-conspirator attorney William Borders went to jail again for refusing to testify in the impeachment proceedings, but was later given a full pardon by President Bill Clinton on his last day in office.[5]

Hastings filed suit in federal court claiming that his impeachment trial was invalid because he was tried by a Senate committee, not in front of the full Senate, and that he had been acquitted in a criminal trial. Judge Stanley Sporkin ruled in favor of Hastings, remanding the case to the Senate, but stayed his ruling pending the outcome of an appeal to the Supreme Court in a similar case regarding Judge Walter Nixon, who had also been impeached and removed.[6]

Sporkin found some "crucial distinctions"[7] between Nixon's case and Hastings', specifically, that Nixon had been convicted criminally, and that Hastings was not found guilty by two-thirds of the committee who actually "tried" his impeachment in the Senate. He further added that Hastings had a right to trial by the full Senate.

The Supreme Court, however, ruled in Nixon v. United States that the federal courts have no jurisdiction over Senate impeachment matters, so Sporkin's ruling was vacated and Hastings's conviction and removal were upheld.[8]



You are trully skimming the corners of the internet scum...the deep depths of desperation. Look up Trumps latest appointees and you may be humbled just a bit at how skank they are.


I can yank a bunch of bullshit off the internet too...like this!

http://www.headlinepolitics.com/trump-just-announced-possible-cabinet-members-will-make-liberals-cringe/
reasoning logic
 
  2  
Fri 27 May, 2016 10:31 pm
@Lilkanyon,
Both Trump and Hillary seem equally interested in bettering our society, That is why I support Bernie.
Lilkanyon
 
  1  
Fri 27 May, 2016 11:31 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Both Trump and Hillary seem equally interested in bettering our society, That is why I support Bernie.


Ahahahahahahahahah! Too funny!
roger
 
  2  
Sat 28 May, 2016 12:00 am
@reasoning logic,
I have always thought Bernie supported the best interests of the country. Same for Biden. I do not have the same faith in any of the other candidates - past or present.
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