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Rising fascism in the US

 
 
Lash
 
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Sun 28 Jan, 2024 06:45 am
@hightor,
Quote:
You, on the other hand, have used questionable sources – Stew Peters, Joe Rogan, the Murdoch Press – on a number of occasions.


I have no idea who Stew Peters is.
I’d use a Joe Rogan reference only for something he said or something that was said on his show—not as an expert. He’s said many times he’s no expert or journalist. He has the right to speak his opinions and I have the right to refer to them.

This is another of your dishonest sloppy rhetorical ploys. You’re backing a genocidal government’s attacks on a man who criticizes them honestly.
hightor
 
  2  
Sun 28 Jan, 2024 07:06 am
@Lash,
Fifteen hundred words taken from his own website! It's not that he's a liar – it's that he turns everything into eschatological soap opera.
Lash
 
  0  
Sun 28 Jan, 2024 07:10 am
@hightor,
I said—here’s some biographical claims, some material about him— find the lie.

Surely if he’s all that you claimed he was in your virulent character-assassinating post, it will be easy to find the lie—or at least come up with your own evidence that he’s as horrible as you say.
hightor
 
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Sun 28 Jan, 2024 07:13 am
@Lash,
Quote:
I have no idea who Stew Peters is.

You spent quite a lot of energy promoting his "Died Suddenly" bullshit.
Quote:
He has the right to speak his opinions and I have the right to refer to them.

And I have the right to point out that he commonly says and repeats things on his show which are incorrect, he has guests who are liars and con men, and that you often spew that misinformation here.
Lash
 
  -1  
Sun 28 Jan, 2024 07:33 am
@hightor,
Plenty of doctors, nurses, epidemiologists et al have revealed the fact that millions are vaccine injured. Many died. The lawsuits are beginning. This Stew Peters person was onto something. But your claim about me is just another lie. I may have mentioned Died Suddenly.

And?
hightor
 
  2  
Sun 28 Jan, 2024 07:36 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Surely if he’s all that you claimed he was in your virulent character-assassinating post, it will be easy to find the lie.

How am I supposed to find a lie in his biographical details? What would that prove? His proven plagiarism says more about him.

And as I said, it's not that he's a liar. It's that he turns everything into a Jeremiad. He looks at the same things we all do and subsequently misinterprets them, leading him to take stands which are unconvincing. His self-indulgent moralism even led him to defend Trump and the January 6 rioters.
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Lash
 
  -1  
Sun 28 Jan, 2024 07:38 am
And now to something worthwhile:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/eu-says-it-expects-full-compliance-with-icj-ruling/

For the time capsule (I just saw this today)

EU says it expects full compliance with ICJ ruling
By REUTERS
26 Jan 2024, 5:35 pm

The European Union says it expects Israel and Hamas to fully comply with the rulings of the International Court of Justice.

The UN’s top court ordered Israel to prevent acts of genocide against the Palestinians and to do more to help civilians — although it stopped short of ordering a ceasefire.

It called on Hamas and other terror groups to immediately release all the hostages they hold.

“Orders of the International Court of Justice are binding on the parties and they must comply with them. The European Union expects their full, immediate and effective implementation,” the European Commission says in a statement.
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Balance at the link, but matters are very clouded by the recent bandwagonning of a few European states, following the US into a suspension of payments to the UN’s refugee relief agency—intentionally compounding the current genocidal starvation of Palestinians by Israel.



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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 28 Jan, 2024 07:46 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Plenty of doctors, nurses, epidemiologists et al have revealed the fact that millions are vaccine injured. Many died.
Then, for whatever reason, something must have been totally different in the USA than here in Germany!

Around 65 million people in Germany have been vaccinated against the coronavirus. Vaccine damage has been recognised in 467 so far.
In relation to the total number of vaccinated people, this corresponds to a rate of 0.00072 per cent.

11,827 people have applied for recognition of damage caused by the corona vaccination - 5.597 of these applications are still being processed.
With 11,827 applications, this means that 0.018 per cent of the approximately 65 million people vaccinated in Germany have submitted such an application



hightor
 
  2  
Sun 28 Jan, 2024 07:47 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Plenty of doctors, nurses, epidemiologists et al have revealed the fact that millions are vaccine injured.

And plenty of them have been exposed as fraudulant or mistaken, such as that Dr. John Campbell who you also used to back up your misinformation here.
Quote:
But your claim about me is just another lie. I may have mentioned Died Suddenly.

It's not a lieyou referred to the documentary to back up your false claims.

I'm done with this.
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Lash
 
  -1  
Sun 28 Jan, 2024 07:47 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Congratulations.
Lash
 
  -1  
Sun 28 Jan, 2024 07:56 am
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/03/25/1164819944/live-free-and-die-the-sad-state-of-u-s-life-expectancy

Life expectancy continues to decline in the U.S. as it rebounds in other countries
Life expectancy around the world decreased in 2020 due to COVID-19. Most peer countries rebounded by 2021, while the U.S. continued to decline.

Just before Christmas, federal health officials confirmed life expectancy in America had dropped for a nearly unprecedented second year in a row – down to 76 years. While countries all over the world saw life expectancy rebound during the second year of the pandemic after the arrival of vaccines, the U.S. did not.

Then, last week, more bad news: Maternal mortality in the U.S. reached a high in 2021. Also, a paper in the Journal of the American Medical Association found rising mortality rates among U.S. children and adolescents.

"This is the first time in my career that I've ever seen [an increase in pediatric mortality] – it's always been declining in the United States for as long as I can remember," says the JAMA paper's lead author Steven Woolf, director emeritus of the Center on Society and Health at Virginia Commonwealth University. "Now, it's increasing at a magnitude that has not occurred at least for half a century."

Across the lifespan, and across every demographic group, Americans die at younger ages than their counterparts in other wealthy nations.

How could this happen? In a country that prides itself on scientific excellence and innovation, and spends an incredible amount of money on health care, the population keeps dying at younger and younger ages.

An unheard alarm

One group of people are not surprised at all: Woolf and the other researchers involved in a landmark, 400-page study ten years ago with a name that says it all: "Shorter Lives, Poorer Health." The research by a panel convened by the National Academy of Sciences and funded by the National Institutes of Health compared U.S. health and death with other developed countries. The results showed – convincingly – that the U.S. was stalling on health advances in the population while other countries raced ahead.

The authors tried to sound an alarm, but found few in the public or government or private sectors were willing to listen. In the years since, the trends have worsened. American life expectancy is lower than that of Cuba, Lebanon, and Czechia.

Ten years later, here's a look back at what that eye-popping study found, and why the researchers involved believe it's not too late to turn the trends around.

Beyond bad habits

Americans are used to hearing about how their poor diets and sedentary lifestyles make their health bad. It can seem easy to brush that off as another scold about eating more vegetables and getting more exercise. But the picture painted in the "Shorter Lives" report could shock even those who feel like they know the story.

American children are less likely to live to age 5 than children in other high-income countries," the authors write on the second page. It goes on: "Even Americans with healthy behaviors, for example, those who are not obese or do not smoke, appear to have higher disease rates than their peers in other countries."

The researchers catalog what they call the "U.S. health disadvantage" – the fact that living in America is worse for your health and makes you more likely to die younger than if you lived in another rich country like the U.K., Switzerland or Japan.

"We went into this with an open mind as to why it is that the U.S. had a shorter life expectancy than people in other countries," says Woolf, who chaired the committee that produced the report. After looking across different age and racial and economic and geographic groups, he says, "what we found was that this problem existed in almost every category we looked at."

That's why, says Eileen Crimmins, professor of gerontology at the University of Southern California who was also on the panel that produced the report, they made a deliberate choice to focus on the health of the U.S. population as a whole.

"That was a decision – not to emphasize the differences in our population, because there is data that actually shows that even the top proportion of the U.S. population does worse than the top proportion of other populations," she explains. "We were trying to just say – look, this is an American problem."

Digging into the 'why'

The researchers were charged with documenting how Americans have more diseases and die younger and to explore the reasons why.

"We were very systematic and thorough about how we thought about this," says Woolf. The panel looked at American life and death in terms of the public health and medical care system, individual behaviors like diet and tobacco use, social factors like poverty and inequality, the physical environment, and public policies and values. "In every one of those five buckets, we found problems that distinguish the United States from other countries."

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Of course, everything including the kitchen sink is cited for a possible reason. No mention of the actual reason….

But this is proof we’re dying at record rates.
More coming later.


Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 28 Jan, 2024 07:57 am
@Lash,
Thank you.

But I am sure that you would also find the correct data if you left your conspiracy bubble
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Lash
 
  -1  
Sun 28 Jan, 2024 08:11 am
People’s reports to doctors and ERs matter.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/new-data-is-out-covid-vaccine-injury-claims-whats-make-it-2022-10-12/

New data is out on COVID vaccine injury claims. What's to make of it?
By Jenna Greene
October 12, 20226:38 PM EDT Updated a year ago

Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, facing a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit seeking a vast trove of data about the safety and side-effects of the COVID-19 vaccines, made a pledge in August.
The agency in court papers, opens new tab said that on or before Sept. 30, it would post on its website a “public use” set of data from about 10 million people who signed up for its “v-safe” program -- a smartphone-based system that periodically sends people text messages and web surveys to monitor potential side effects from the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccines.


But the CDC missed its deadline. A spokesperson cited a delay in “the technical and administrative processes” necessary to post on the agency’s website, but said it hopes to have the information up by late November or early December.
In the meantime, the CDC handed over the v-safe data (minus personal identifying information) to the plaintiff in the FOIA case, the Informed Consent Action Network, or ICAN, a Texas-based nonprofit that says it opposes "medical coercion" in favor of individual healthcare choices.

ICAN crunched the numbers on its own and came up with some statistics that its lawyer says appear to be "alarming."

According to ICAN, 7.7% of the v-safe users -- 782,913 people -- reported seeking medical attention via a telehealth appointment, urgent care clinic, emergency room intervention or hospitalization following a COVID-19 vaccine.
About 25% of v-safe users said they experienced symptoms that required them to miss school or work or prevented them from doing other normal activities, according to ICAN’s “dashboard that summarizes the results.

There's no way, however, based on the information collected, to determine whether the COVID-19 vaccines actually caused the ailments. ICAN's analysis included responses reported beyond the first seven days post-vaccine and it counted all reports of people seeking medical attention up to a year after receiving the shot. ICAN did not specify when after vaccination they received the care, nor did the data indicate what the care was for.

I asked a CDC spokesperson what the agency made of ICAN's calculations. Are the numbers accurate?

The CDC "cannot comment on analyses conducted outside of the agency that we have not seen," the spokesperson said via email, but added that v-safe data "have shown low rates of medical care after vaccination, particularly hospitalization."
In the first week after getting the shot, the spokesperson continued, "reports of seeking any medical care (including telehealth appointments) range from 1-3% (depending on vaccine, age group and dose)."

She pointed me to a report, opens new tab looking at the first six months of v-safe data to back up the assertion. In addition, another CDC spokesperson said that agency personnel made follow-up calls to any v-safe users who reported seeking medical attention.

But ICAN counsel Aaron Siri of Siri & Glimstad, who led the FOIA litigation against the agency, said that because some vaccine-related adverse effects (chronic arthritis, thrombocytopenia, Guillain-Barré syndrome, myocarditis and more) can appear weeks after vaccination, it's important to broaden the time frame beyond the one-week window in research the CDC cited.
“This is a large and concerning number of negative health impacts,” Siri said of ICAN's conclusions, adding that he's aware of no comparable public data for other vaccines.

A Pfizer media representative in an email said that the company’s vaccine has “a favorable safety profile and high level of protection against severe COVID-19 disease and hospitalization.”

Representatives from Moderna and Johnson & Johnson did not respond to requests for comment.

Until ICAN's suit, the v-safe data was not public, though specific findings have been reported by the CDC and medical journals.
The data has its limits. The CDC asked v-safe users to self-report a range of post-vaccine symptoms such as headache, joint pain and fatigue, and (irrespective of whether they sought medical attention) to categorize the ailments as mild, moderate or severe. The agency queried v-safe users about their health every day for the first week following vaccine, and then at various points afterwards for the next 12 months, gathering a total of 146 million records.
In addition to the dashboard summary, ICAN on its website, opens new tab has made the underlying dataset available for public download. Reuters did not independently verify ICAN's analysis of the information.
Siri, a 2004 University of California Berkeley School of Law grad who got his start at Latham & Watkins, is no stranger to FOIA fights. Last year, he sued the Food and Drug Administration to make public the data it relied on to license Pfizer-BioNTech’s COVID-19 vaccine. The agency unsuccessfully argued that it needed up to 76 years to review and release all the information.
Siri filed suit, opens new tab against the CDC on behalf of ICAN last year in Austin, Texas, federal court to get the v-safe data.
For concerned members of the public wondering about vaccine safety, it's hard to know what to think.

The CDC -- which should be the gold standard for accurate information -- still hasn’t made the v-safe information publicly available itself, although it seems to have fulfilled a FOIA obligation by giving it to ICAN.
It's notable that ICAN has a history of vaccine skepticism. Its founder, Del Bigtree, is known for producing the 2016 documentary “Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe," which may be why the group's findings have received scant media coverage.

Look. I believe vaccines save lives, and I eagerly received COVID-19 shots. I have no interest in being an anti-vax mouthpiece.
But I also believe in maximum government transparency.
Siri said that the v-safe information offers a unique window: millions of people, all “answering identical questions, making the data susceptible to calculating a rate for each harm reported.” He has point.
It indicates that, at a minimum, hundreds of thousands of people experienced health events that they considered "severe" following the shot and sought medical care.

Moreover, for those still struggling to recover and believe the vaccine is to blame, legal recourse is limited.

The COVID-19 vaccine makers are indemnified by the government, and all injury claims are adjudicated by an obscure tribunal, the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program. Payouts are limited to unreimbursed medical expenses and up to $50,000 a year in lost wages.

As of Sept. 1, the forum had received 7,084 claims alleging injuries or death from the COVID-19 vaccines. Three claims have been deemed eligible for compensation and 42 have been rejected.

A spokesperson told me the compensation program is "actively bringing on additional administrative staff and claims reviewers to process these claims as quickly as possible."

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Of course guilty parties want to hide evidence of their culpability in the most expensive lawsuits imaginable. Let’s see how long it takes for the truth to be uncovered.

They certainly can keep it off of network news.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 28 Jan, 2024 08:21 am
@Lash,
More than 675 million doses of the vaccines have been administered in the U.S., according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

If you give 675 million doses of anything, it’s inevitable that some people will have adverse reactions.

Since you are diligently searching and seem to have countless sources at your disposal, what are the figures for vaccine damage with other vaccinations?

It also seems to me that vaccination reactions - i.e. typical complaints after a vaccination - suddenly only lead to headlines and lawsuits with Covid vaccinations.
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Lash
 
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Sun 28 Jan, 2024 10:32 am
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?country=DEU~USA~GBR

Looks like the US hasn’t reported excess deaths in a couple of months. Insurance adjusters report a notable rise in deaths of young people.

Interesting data and charts at the link.
Lash
 
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Sun 28 Jan, 2024 10:41 am
Younger people dying at record rates per insurance adjusters / actuarials.

https://insurancenewsnet.com/innarticle/excess-mortality-continuing-surge-causes-concerns

Pertinent info:

Younger adult death rate up 20% in 2023

Others aren’t so sanguine and point to statistics from the U.S. Center of Disease Control that show mortality rates alarmingly rising for different categories. For example, younger adult mortality rates are up more than 20% in 2023, the CDC said. Cause of death data show increased cardiac mortality in all ages. And even as COVID-related causes declined in 2022, others rose, particularly stroke, diabetes, kidney and liver diseases.

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izzythepush
 
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Sun 28 Jan, 2024 10:55 am
@Lash,
Your health service is private, it's not set up for a vaccination programme like publicly owned health services.

That's probably got more to do with it than anything else.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 28 Jan, 2024 11:32 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Your health service is private, it's not set up for a vaccination programme like publicly owned health services.

That's probably got more to do with it than anything else.
Additionally, in Germany, the state is liable for vaccination injuries. This is provided for in the Infection Protection Act (IfSG). The original prerequisite for liability was that the vaccination was recommended by a competent state authority. These state recommendations often even go beyond the recommendations of the Standing Committee on Vaccination (STIKO).

At the end of 2020, however, the legislator made a special provision in the IfSG for the special case of Covid-19: Anyone who has been or will be vaccinated against the coronavirus with a vaccine authorised in Germany is entitled to care due to health damage caused by the vaccination. In contrast to other vaccinations, it does not matter whether there is a public recommendation from the state authorities or not.

In Germany, vaccine injury occurs when the consequences of the vaccination go beyond the usual extent of a vaccination reaction. This does not include normal side effects such as rashes, fever or headaches.

It is irrelevant for the entitlement to (health-)care and benefits* from the state whether the symptoms that occurred were previously known as possible side effects. Those affected do not lose their entitlement even if they have been correctly informed and have consented to the vaccination.
*The entitlement to benefits is intended to compensate for the health and economic consequences of the vaccination damage.
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blatham
 
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Sun 28 Jan, 2024 03:35 pm
ICAN (which Lash quotes at length above). Who/what are they?
Quote:
The Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN) is one of the main anti-vaccination groups in the United States. Founded in 2016 by Del Bigtree, it spreads misinformation about the risks of vaccines and contributes to vaccine hesitancy,[1][2][3] which has been identified by the World Health Organization as one of the top ten global health threats of 2019.[4][5] Arguments against vaccination are contradicted by overwhelming scientific consensus about the safety and effectiveness of vaccines.[6][7][8][9]

Funding and activities
ICAN was founded in 2016 by television producer Del Bigtree, after the release of the movie Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe, which he wrote and produced, with anti-vaccination activist Andrew Wakefield directing...

From Wikipedia, much more here
Lash
 
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Sun 28 Jan, 2024 03:54 pm
@blatham,
The article details ICAN’s skepticism. They’re mostly mentioned in the context of having to sue for information that should be by all accounts made public without lawsuits.
 

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