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Rising fascism in the US

 
 
Lash
 
  -2  
Sat 1 Apr, 2023 02:06 pm
https://youtu.be/AJQB-iZ23nk

Dollar ditched. Hard rain, coming.
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blatham
 
  3  
Sat 1 Apr, 2023 03:10 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
While it is not yet known what’s in the Trump indictment, the New York grand jury had been hearing evidence about money paid to the adult-film actress Stormy Daniels during Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign - a proven crime in the case of his convicted former lawyer Cohen.

As I'm sure you know, reporting suggests there are 30+ counts in the indictment. We'll have to wait to see what they are but that number suggests a rather wide range of potential crimes committed.
blatham
 
  2  
Sat 1 Apr, 2023 04:43 pm
Israel four hours ago...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FspfbkcXgAMb5ga?format=jpg&name=900x900
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Real Music
 
  3  
Sat 1 Apr, 2023 08:32 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
As I'm sure you know, reporting suggests there are 30+ counts in the indictment. We'll have to wait to see what they are but that number suggests a rather wide range of potential crimes committed.

Watch the

5:25 point
thru the
7:00 point

of the following video

blatham
 
  3  
Sun 2 Apr, 2023 12:15 am
@Real Music,
Thanks! That's a very good rundown. I listened a bit further through the NYT reporter's interview and she brought up something I almost mentioned as something of a joke about Trump's lawyers insisting the case be heard outside of New York because almost everybody there hates his guts. But it is true. When I first moved to Manhattan, Jane and I took a tour bus ride to give me some initial sense of the place. When we passed Trump Tower, the guy on board doing the tour said, "And that building there is Trump Tower. Everybody in New York hates the guy". That's exactly what he said.
Real Music
 
  3  
Sun 2 Apr, 2023 12:57 am
@blatham,
1. I thought that brief part of the video was applicable to your posting.

2. None of us really know what's included in those indictments, but I thought hearing some insight
of what might be included in those indictments was interesting.
blatham
 
  1  
Sun 2 Apr, 2023 12:44 pm
@Real Music,
Indeed. Again, thanks.
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Region Philbis
 
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Sun 2 Apr, 2023 02:04 pm

https://iili.io/HOn096v.jpg
coluber2001
 
  2  
Sun 2 Apr, 2023 02:49 pm
Timothy Snyder talks about the politics of inevitability and the politics of eternity:


Ukraine and the problem of “futurelessness”
Historian Timothy Snyder on the war in Ukraine and the future of democracy.

(quote)
The politics of inevitability is the idea that history is inexorably moving towards a certain future. For example, the idea that the world is automatically becoming more democratic and liberal, and we can just sit back and watch it happen. This was quite common after the Soviet empire was relatively peacefully destroyed by its own subjects, and some declared “the end of history.”

Of course, history is not predictable and isn’t moving towards an ultimate goal, and positive political principles don’t just spread and establish themselves. If we don’t defend them, we can see them fail. This happened, tragically, in Nazi Germany of the 1930s, and is a potential danger everywhere, in any time.

If we invest in the idea of the inevitable and it fails, we can be disappointed, lose faith, and become vulnerable to the idea of the politics of eternity. This is the cynical view that nothing ever really changes, we can’t improve our world, but maybe we can further our own situation by following a charismatic leader who promises to return our reality to some nostalgic mythical golden age (Nazi Germany again, Russia under late Putinism, or Making America Great Again). It may turn out to be someone that promises to make us feel better by defining some scapegoat other, and harming them.

For the compete essay:
https://www.vox.com/2022/6/21/23165718/vox-conversations-ukraine-russia-timothy-snyder-democracy
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Lash
 
  -3  
Mon 3 Apr, 2023 04:31 am
Twitter

Banning Jeremy Corbyn from standing as Labour candidate in a constituency that has returned him to parliament on no less than ten occasions is deeply undemocratic and poses serious risks to the future of socialist members and MPs in the party. We should not take this as a one-off
izzythepush
 
  3  
Mon 3 Apr, 2023 04:43 am
There is nothing to stop Jeremy Corbyn standing as an independent.

It is up to the Labour executive who stands for the party.

That's always been the case, there's nothing anti democratic about it.

I have my own problems with Starmer's leadership but I'm not going to air them here.
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izzythepush
 
  4  
Mon 3 Apr, 2023 04:48 am
The last election had Corbyn as leader and Labour suffered their worst electoral defeat in history.

Starmer has turned that into a commanding position in the polls.

Lash does not want a Labour victory which is why she keeps going on about Corbyn.

No criticism of Sunak's cronies at all.

The most undemocratic thing is Braverman's attempt to deport asylum seekers to Rwanda while bringing back prison hulks for asylum seekers.

All of that is far more significant than Corbyn being deselected as a Labour candidate.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Mon 3 Apr, 2023 04:53 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
We should not take this as a one-off
"We" - you are a Labour member, but don't read the rule book?
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Mon 3 Apr, 2023 05:03 am
When Jeremy Corbyn first stood as a Labour MP he defeated Michael O' Halloran who had been expelled from the Labour Party and was standing as an indrpendent.

Nobody said that was undemocratic at the time.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Mon 3 Apr, 2023 05:32 am
@izzythepush,
Here with us, it is determined long before the actual election within the parties who will make it into the race. There, top dogs are outflanked by young savages and old hands by newcomers.

Here, too, not everyone likes the outcome.

However, parties are a constitutional body in our country, they are explicitly mentioned in the Basic Law - and they are committed to democracy in their entire procedure.

Anyone who is not in a party will have great problems asserting themselves as a candidate, as an individual candidate, because ... that requires resources, and maybe Trump can mobilise those in the USA, but not the average citizen here.



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revelette1
 
  2  
Mon 3 Apr, 2023 08:18 am
@Region Philbis,
The issue so concerning to me that I am going to start to search for some kind of movement online (don't get about much)on it.
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Lash
 
  -3  
Tue 4 Apr, 2023 05:50 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/03/nord-stream-bombing-yacht-andromeda/

INVESTIGATORS SKEPTICAL OF YACHTS ROLE in Nord Stream bombing.

Because it was stupid.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Tue 4 Apr, 2023 06:38 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Because it was stupid.
In any case, "one" thought it was a clever diversionary tactic.
It was also clever that the German investigating authorities, led by the Federal Prosecutor General, pretended to put the main focus on this lead.
As we now know, they have been investigating primarily in 'the' other direction all along.
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blatham
 
  1  
Tue 4 Apr, 2023 09:11 am
Some of the recent right wing stuff detailed at Media Matters
Quote:
Fox's Mark Levin on Social Security: “What DeSantis voted for, and I would have voted for it too, was to raise the retirement age to 70”
04/04/23 11:02 AM EDT

Dennis Prager: “Donald Trump has as good a chance at a fair trial in Manhattan as a Black did in the -- in the South in 1900”
04/04/23 11:00 AM EDT

Fox's Mark Levin: “Look for reasons to indict Joe Biden” because “If we don't do that, there is no future for the Republican Party”
04/04/23 10:42 AM EDT

Tucker Carlson claims America is under government run anarchy thanks to a “Soros-inspired justice system”
04/03/23 8:32 PM EDT

Sean Hannity promises Republicans will “get their revenge” over indictment of Donald Trump
04/03/23 7:50 PM EDT


And every one of these people are making multiple millions each year playing this agitprop game.
thack45
 
  1  
Tue 4 Apr, 2023 09:22 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:


And every one of these people are making multiple millions each year playing this agitprop game.


Well that stuff would hardly be worth saying at all if they weren't. It would be nice of them though, if they would share that wealth with the people who freely take their messaging and spread it around for them.

Also, what's the deal with the "Soros" dropping? I get there's a supposed dog whistle angle, but what is their official problem with the guy?
 

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