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Rising fascism in the US

 
 
Real Music
 
  2  
Fri 10 Mar, 2023 08:52 am
@blatham,
Quote:
It's my hope you'll quit this endeavor. There's no evidence it will get anywhere useful and overwhelming evidence over two decades that it won't.

1. Why would I quit something that I actually enjoy doing?
2. For me, this is actually fun.
3. I don't do this all of the time.
4. There are times when I stay away from these types of postings.
5. But, when I'm in the mood, it's actually fun.
6. I actually miss the days of going back and forth with maxdancona from time to time.
7. That kept me coming back to post more and more.
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Lash
 
  -2  
Fri 10 Mar, 2023 12:06 pm
Matt Taibbi Squares off with Congressional Democrats over their social media censorship

Anyone who exposes the crimes of the US security state is attacked by Democrats. This is why Julian Assange is dying in a prison, why Edward Snowden is in exile, why Daniel Ellsberg nearly spent his life in jail. This is authoritarianism in the US.

https://youtu.be/LoYjzdu4jy4
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coluber2001
 
  5  
Fri 10 Mar, 2023 01:54 pm
It's unsettling that Fox News admitted that they intentionally lied because they believed the people demanded to hear lies instead of the truth. So Fox News masquerading as a news program peddled lies as truth because it was profitable.

Disclaimer (satire)
Fox News is an entertainment channel not a news channel, and therefore all information reported as news should be regarded as fiction with the intent of attracting viewers for commercial interest only. Any truth inferred by the viewer from our broadcast presented as news is not our responsibility for our fictionalized broadcasts are strictly presented as entertainment and have no relation to truth.

https://dnyuz.com/2023/03/08/records-show-fox-and-g-o-p-s-shared-quandary-trump/

(quote)
“Do we have enough dead people for tonight?”

It was a week after the 2020 elections, and Tucker Carlson — along with Fox News executives and other hosts — had watched with panic as Fox viewers, furious and disbelieving at President Donald J. Trump’s defeat, began to turn against the top-rated network. The viewers believed Mr. Trump’s claims that a widespread conspiracy of voter fraud was behind his loss. And as Mr. Carlson’s nightly 8 p.m. hour approached, the host pushed his producers to give the viewers what they wanted.

He demanded examples of dead people voting in Nevada or Georgia, even offering to call the Trump campaign personally to ask for help. That night, he trumpeted the evidence, borrowed from a Trump campaign news release: Four allegedly dead Georgians had cast ballots. Within days, though, the campaign’s spoon-fed examples began to fall apart. Three of the dead Georgians were actually alive. And Mr. Carlson was forced to partly retract his allegations, while insisting to viewers that “a whole bunch of dead people did vote.”

Mr. Carlson’s frantic effort to appease angry Fox viewers, revealed in texts and emails released as part of a $1.6 billion defamation suit against Fox News by Dominion Voting Systems, underscore the central quandary faced both by Fox and the Republican Party in the wake of Mr. Trump’s defeat and still today, as the former president mounts another campaign for the White House.

Like the Republican Party more broadly, Fox wants and needs the support of Trump fans, who both dominate party primaries and form the core of Fox’s viewership. And like the party, Fox has found it difficult to quit Mr. Trump even as his manic efforts to relitigate his defeat have hobbled the party in subsequent elections.

Fox News has been the most trusted and watched source of information for conservative America for decades, and its frequent symbiosis with the Republican Party is well established. But the internal documents released in recent days have provided an unprecedented glimpse into network decision-making as its dual imperatives — to keep its base audience of conservatives satisfied and meet its promise to maintain journalistic standards of fairness and factuality — came into conflict as never before.

No figure is more central to that conflict than Mr. Carlson. Ever since taking over Fox’s 8 p.m. hour in 2017, Mr. Carlson had maintained a carefully calibrated distance from Mr. Trump, using inflammatory segments about a border invasion and the “replacement” of native-born Americans by immigrants to appeal to Mr. Trump’s base — while minimizing how often he discussed Mr. Trump, whom he regarded as erratic and undisciplined. “We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights,” Mr. Carlson texted with staff members in early January 2021, adding, “I hate him passionately.”

But in the months after the Jan. 6 attacks, “Tucker Carlson Tonight” doubled down on a pro-Trump narrative that both Mr. Carlson and his bosses knew was rooted in a lie. According to a New York Times analysis, in 2021 nearly half of Mr. Carlson’s shows — more than 100 episodes — featured segments downplaying the Capitol riot, casting the insurrectionists as innocent citizens seeking legitimate redress for election fraud, and suggesting the riot itself was a “false flag” operation orchestrated by federal law enforcement to entrap Trump supporters.

His efforts to rewrite the events of Jan. 6 again took center stage this week, just as reams of emails, texts and deposition transcripts from the Dominion suit revealed that the network’s hosts and executives knew they were peddling lies to their own viewers.

On his show this week, Mr. Carlson once more recast the violent attack that took place in January 2021 as a largely peaceful protest, this time using previously unreleased surveillance footage provided to his show by the new Republican House speaker, Kevin McCarthy. Mr. McCarthy, whose campaign for the speakership was backed by Mr. Trump, provided the footage after Mr. Carlson suggested on his show that releasing the tapes would help Mr. McCarthy overcome conservative resistance to his bid.

On air, Mr. Carlson accused a Democratic-led congressional committee of misleading the public about what really happened. “Committee members lied about what they say, and then hid the evidence from the public,” Mr. Carlson charged.

News outlets and fact checkers found the broadcast rife with inaccuracies and false claims. Republicans in the House, among whom loyalty to Mr. Trump remains strong, defended Mr. Carlson’s segment. But Republicans in the Senate — currently controlled by Democrats, after Trump-backed candidates went down to defeat in the 2022 elections — attacked the powerful Fox host in unusually blunt terms.

“It was a mistake, in my view, for Fox News to depict this in a way that’s completely at variance with what our chief law enforcement official here at the Capitol thinks,” said Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader.

In the pretrial public relations maneuvering, Fox News has accused Dominion of using its court filings to share selective and out-of-context portions of internal text messages to “smear Fox News,” part of a broader effort to “silence the press” through a winning verdict. In a statement, a network spokeswoman said, “Fox News will continue to fiercely protect the free press as a ruling in favor of Dominion would have grave consequences for journalism across this country.” In defending Mr. Carlson’s coverage of Mr. Trump’s voter fraud claims, Fox executives have also pointed to Mr. Carlson’s on-air criticism of a lawyer behind some of the most outrageous voter fraud charges, Sidney Powell.

Documents released in the Dominion lawsuit illustrate in vivid detail Fox’s complex relationship with the Republican Party, with the network serving variously as custodian, enforcer and powerful interest group in its own right.

During the election, Dominion has alleged, Fox’s chief, Rupert Murdoch, personally gave Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and adviser, Jared Kushner, a preview of at least one Biden campaign ad. After the election, Mr. Murdoch called Mr. McConnell and asked him to lobby other Republican senators to avoid endorsing Mr. Trump’s claims of widespread voter fraud. At moments, Mr. Murdoch and a top editor at the Murdoch-owned New York Post discussed editorials intended to encourage Mr. Trump to accept his defeat gracefully, seemingly in hopes of avoiding further damage to the party.

In mid-November 2020, Mr. Murdoch emailed Fox’s chief executive, Suzanne Scott, explaining the need for Fox to reorient away from Mr. Trump’s conspiracy theories and focus on the Georgia special senate elections, with Fox “helping any way we can.”

Top Fox personnel agonized over the difficulty of escaping Mr. Trump’s influence over their own audience. “This day of reckoning was going to come at some point — where the embrace of Trump became an albatross we can’t shake right away if ever,” Dana Perino, a prominent Fox host, wrote to a friend in November 2020.

Yet the shoals they were trying to navigate had been in no small part laid by Mr. Carlson, one of Fox’s most-watched hosts. Though the newly released messages show Mr. Carlson expressing skepticism in his private emails about the extent of “voter fraud,” he had been an early and energetic promoter of the doubt Mr. Trump was trying to sow.

Within 24 hours of the polls closing, he declared that the election had been “seized from the hands of voters,” and that the final results would finally be determined by “lawyers and courts and clearly corrupt, big-city bureaucrats.” Americans “will never again accept the results of a presidential election,” he predicted.

After the major networks declared Mr. Biden president-elect, Mr. Carlson reminded his viewers that troubling questions remained: “We don’t know how many votes were stolen on Tuesday night; we don’t know anything about the software that many say was rigged,” he said. His audience members, he said, were being played for suckers: “They knew you were coming. They laughed at you when you left.”

But behind the scenes, Mr. Carlson and his producers were among those scoffing.

In the days before the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, they discussed their intense hopes that Mr. Trump would soon leave the political scene. They mocked his plans to block the certification of Mr. Biden’s win and raged at how Mr. Trump’s lawyers had undermined their own arguments about fraud with sweeping conspiracy theories and debunked allegations.

Two weeks after the election, Mr. Carlson, his executive producer and a top Fox executive named Ron Mitchell traded texts about a news conference at which one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, Rudolph W. Giuliani, unspooled a litany of debunked allegations while hair dye dripped down his face. “I don’t see how to cover this,” Mr. Mitchell wrote. (That night, Mr. Carlson devoted his opening monologue to the news conference, carefully asserting that Mr. Giuliani “did raise legitimate questions and in some cases, he pointed to what appeared to be real wrongdoing.”)

Mr. Carlson has claimed to “never look at the ratings” for his show. But Dominion texts show Mr. Carlson, his bosses and his fellow hosts obsessing over them. Within weeks of the election, it became clear to them that Fox viewers badly wanted them to focus on supposed evidence of voter fraud.

“Tucker wrote me and Laura and said last nights numbers were a disaster,” Sean Hannity wrote to Fox producers in late November 2020, referring to Mr. Carlson and Laura Ingraham. (His executive producer, Robert Samuel, noted that the previous week’s most highly rated programming minutes “were on the voting irregularities.”) Mr. Carlson had also texted the two other hosts about ratings earlier that month, joking that an angry Fox viewer who had ranted against the network on Twitter would get “way better numbers than what we have” and warning Mr. Hannity that “the 7:00 was third last night,” referring to the time slot immediately preceding his own.

As Mr. Carlson’s broadcast was coming to an end on Nov. 10, a Fox staff member warned the host that he was being attacked on Twitter for not covering allegations of voter fraud. “It’s all our viewers care about right now,” the staff member wrote. Mr. Carlson replied that it had been a “mistake” but that “I just hate” the topic.

That night and the next morning, Mr. Carlson and the unnamed colleague brainstormed how to get into the story, trading links and tweets, eventually seizing on a local news report in Nevada suggesting a woman who had died in 2017 had voted there in November. (An investigation later determined that the woman’s husband, a Republican, had used her ballot to vote twice, then claimed her ballot had been stolen.) They debated whether they could “get up to five examples of specific names of dead people that voted,” and reached out to Jason Miller, a Trump campaign official, asking for evidence that they could then present on “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”

“Obviously they need to do whatever they can to help us,” Mr. Carlson told his Fox colleague.

On the afternoon of Nov. 11, as the next evening’s broadcast approached, the staff member texted Mr. Carlson again.

“Have you seen last night’s numbers?” the staff member wrote, adding, “It’s a stupid story but this is all the viewers are into right now.”

Mr. Carlson replied: “I noticed.”

The post Records Show Fox and G.O.P.’s Shared Quandary: Trump appeared first on New York Times.

Real Music
 
  3  
Fri 10 Mar, 2023 07:38 pm
@coluber2001,

That's a great post.
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Real Music
 
  2  
Sat 11 Mar, 2023 01:55 am
(Republicans) use House committee power to try to rewrite embarrassing history.

(Democrat) Rep. Eric Swalwell, member of the House Judiciary Committee, talks with Alex Wagner about the hypocrisy of (Republican) Jim Jordan wanting to enforce congressional subpoenas after he ignored them in the last congress, and why (Republicans) are flopping on much-hyped hearings.


Published March 10, 2023


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Real Music
 
  2  
Sat 11 Mar, 2023 02:14 am
Fox News (cut out) Trump saying he might let Russia take over areas
of Ukraine as part of peace deal.




Quote:
Fox News edited out remarks by Trump when it replayed an interview with him.

In the part excluded, he said he could have let Russia have parts of Ukraine.

Trump has long drawn criticism for his refusal to criticise Russia.

Fox News cut out comments by former President Donald Trump in which he said he would have considered letting Russia have parts of Ukraine as part of a peace deal between the nations.

In an interview on Fox News host Sean Hannity's radio show on Monday, which is not broadcast by Fox, Trump revealed how he would try and broker a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine in the wake of Russia's invasion last year.

Trump has claimed he can quickly bring an end to the war as he seeks election again in 2024.

In the interview, he boasted of how Russia would not have dared to launch an attack during his presidency, and added: "I could have negotiated. At worst, I could've made a deal to take over something, there are certain areas that are Russian-speaking areas, frankly, but you could've worked a deal."

The Daily Beast's Justin Baragona reported that when Hannity played excerpts from the interview later that day on his prime time Fox News show, the part where Trump suggests he may have backed an agreement handing parts of Ukraine to Russia was edited out, with the excerpt cutting out after Trump says "I could've negotiated."

Fox pointed Insider to the fact that the Trump comments were part of a 22-minute radio interview on a separate platform that was edited down to a 2 minute clip as part of the usual editorial process.

Russia annexed swaths of east Ukraine and the Crimea peninsula in 2014, two years before Trump became president, and last year launched a wider invasion aimed at toppling the Ukrainian government in Kyiv.

The annexations and invasion have been condemned as illegal by the international community, and Ukraine says that the only conditions under which it would negotiate were if Russia withdrew from its territory.

Trump last year praised Putin for being "smart" in seeking to invade Ukraine, and declaring large swaths of it "independent" as a prelude to illegally annexing it.

Trump has long drawn criticism for his refusal to criticise Russian aggression, as well as his comments about its authoritarian president, Vladimir Putin.

As president, he famously sided with Putin at a 2018 summit in questioning his own intelligence agencies' assessment that Russia had meddled in the 2016 election.

He was impeached in 2019 over allegations that he threatened to withhold military aid to Ukraine unless it dug up dirt on his political rival Joe Biden.

For two years, Trump was investigated by Special Counsel Robert Mueller amid claims he had conspired with Russia to win in 2016. Mueller found insufficient evidence to substantiate the claim.

Trump has also repeatedly threatened to withdraw from NATO,
the defense treaty that forms the main Western bulwark against
Russian aggression.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-cut-out-trump-saying-he-might-let-russia-take-over-areas-of-ukraine-as-part-of-peace-deal/ar-AA18mYDd
izzythepush
 
  4  
Sat 11 Mar, 2023 02:53 am
@Real Music,
Trump would have given them back Alaska.
Region Philbis
 
  7  
Sat 11 Mar, 2023 11:22 am

https://iili.io/HXYi19e.jpg
Lash
 
  -4  
Sat 11 Mar, 2023 11:48 am
@Region Philbis,
Also MSNBC CNN CBS ABC NBC

Yes. I agree.
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Lash
 
  -3  
Sat 11 Mar, 2023 12:30 pm
https://apnews.com/article/saudi-arabia-iran-diplomatic-ties-2f80bb71a995910cb4b172e5dbee3526

Wow!! Incredibly good news to report!! To everyone but the US government.

(Cue sad trombone)

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Iran and Saudi Arabia agreed Friday to reestablish diplomatic relations and reopen embassies after seven years of tensions. The major diplomatic breakthrough negotiated with China lowers the chance of armed conflict between the Mideast rivals — both directly and in proxy conflicts around the region.

The deal, struck in Beijing this week amid its ceremonial National People’s Congress, represents a major diplomatic victory for the Chinese as Gulf Arab states perceive the United States slowly withdrawing from the wider Middle East. It also comes as diplomats have been trying to end a long war in Yemen, a conflict in which both Iran and Saudi Arabia are deeply entrenched.

The two countries released a joint communique on the deal with China, which brokered the agreement as President Xi Jinping was awarded a third five-year term as leader earlier Friday.
______________

China, as the ostensible leader of the new and rapidly growing BRICS alliance (since Russia is being kept busy in a proxy war in Ukraine), has really been making peace and recruiting for new members.

Moving forward with their BRICKSY plans.

BRICS+++++. 8
USA. 0 (Plus banks failing. Again)
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coluber2001
 
  3  
Sat 11 Mar, 2023 07:50 pm
Of course Trump would end the Ukraine war. He would resist sending military aid and withdraw from NATO. That would be the end of Ukraine.
Is there any doubt that Trump is anti-democracy and pro-authoritarianism?

https://i1.wp.com/darylcagle.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2018/07/putintrupdoggie750.png
Real Music
 
  2  
Sat 11 Mar, 2023 09:26 pm
Why is Trump keeping his talks with Putin a Secret? | Op-Ed


Published January 31, 2019


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Real Music
 
  1  
Sat 11 Mar, 2023 10:56 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Trump would have given them back Alaska.

In a heartbeat.
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Real Music
 
  1  
Sat 11 Mar, 2023 11:08 pm
@coluber2001,
Quote:
Is there any doubt that Trump is anti-democracy and pro-authoritarianism?

1. That was never in doubt.

2. Trump is anti-democracy to his very core.

3. Trump is pro-authoritarian to his very core.
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Real Music
 
  2  
Sat 11 Mar, 2023 11:17 pm
1. If I didn't know any better, I would have thought that (Donald Trump) has actively been part of the
(Vladimir Putin's) administration.

2. If I didn't know any better, I would have thought that (Vladimir Putin's) vice president was and still is (Donald Trump).
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Lash
 
  -4  
Sun 12 Mar, 2023 06:16 am
NATO should’ve been abolished years ago.
Lash
 
  -3  
Sun 12 Mar, 2023 06:22 am
Americans are waking up this morning deciding if—and how much— they will withdraw tomorrow. Banksters are at it again.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  7  
Sun 12 Mar, 2023 07:16 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
NATO should’ve been abolished years ago.
Inded, quite a few say so.
I'm very happy, though, that NATO helped to maintain peace in Europe and prevented my homeland, the Federal Republic of Germany, from becoming part of the Warsaw Pact.

Unlike you, I am one of those who don't want to live under the Russian heel.
Frank Apisa
 
  6  
Sun 12 Mar, 2023 07:53 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Lash wrote:
NATO should’ve been abolished years ago.
Inded, quite a few say so.
I'm very happy, though, that NATO helped to maintain peace in Europe and prevented my homeland, the Federal Republic of Germany, from becoming part of the Warsaw Pact.

Unlike you, I am one of those who don't want to live under the Russian heel.


Well said, Walter.
revelette1
 
  5  
Sun 12 Mar, 2023 08:17 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq-1bEYWAAIwdPO?format=jpg&name=small
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