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Rising fascism in the US

 
 
vikorr
 
  3  
Sun 15 Jan, 2023 01:44 pm
@hightor,
Which is the sensible approach. What I find 'amazing' is Lash's belief that she discerns truth....while she doesn't run tests, doesn't question the wording, doesn't question whats missing, and wilfully ignores so much that contradicts her beliefs....even while she happily throws out accusations of others being scared of the truth, buying lies etc.

What you said Hightor, is the only way to read news. Both sides lie, and it becomes very obvious that they continually lie when you know what to look for. 'Ethical' news sites still lie, but they lie via ommission and perspective rather than fact, so as you say, you can still glean useful information - if you run all the questions/tests necessary to eliminate the crud.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sun 15 Jan, 2023 02:01 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
—but only I admit—


Does this person really think they're that special?
Prophets walk a lonely road.

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hightor
 
  1  
Sun 15 Jan, 2023 02:07 pm
illegeracy, n.
1. An inability to make sense of one's cultural situation;
2. a failure to see the conditions of one's life as open to choice:
3. an abdicating of one's political power to help choose the direction of society.
SEE ALSO legible, elect, legislate.
4. Generally, a problem arising from a simultaneous and interlinked failure of the systems of mass media and education; low educational achievement and/or lack of self awareness and cultural perspective, exacerbated by electronic communication
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 05:05 am
@joe 2nation,
joe 2nation wrote:
From the data it's apparent firearm owners in the UK own about four firearms each. One is never enough to cure paranoia.

Paranoia has nothing to do with gun ownership in either the UK or US.


joe 2nation wrote:
There are a lot more shotguns needed in the UK to deter foxes. In the USA, the NRA will say we must have semi-automatic long guns because our foxes are so much tougher the puny British foxes.

The NRA says that people have the right to have whatever they choose to have, and do not have to justify their choices in any way whatsoever.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 16 Jan, 2023 05:07 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Canada takes antique guns and…hunting rifles? Ask yourself why.

It is because the Canadian government is tyrannical. The Canadian people need to rise up and give themselves a Ceausescu Christmas.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 05:08 am
@Lash,
Neonazism is bad. Neonazis should not be quoted or linked to.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 05:10 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Lula has been sworn in, hopefully ending US designs on Brazil for now.

No such designs. But it would be nice if we stepped in to protect the rain forest.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 05:11 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Russia spent 8 years trying to negotiate and avoid this war, and the United States spent 8 years doing everything they could to provoke it

Nonsense. Russia chose to invade due to their own innate aggression.


Lash wrote:
The United States won and both Russia and Ukraine lost, but Ukraine will be the biggest loser

Ukraine are holding their own.
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Lash
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 07:01 am
You study the bark of that tree so closely but you can’t see the forest.
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Lash
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 07:05 am
Vikkor’s logic:

Cops won’t behave in ways that might cost them their jobs because body cameras.
Vikkor is dismissed.
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Lash
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 07:48 am
Vikkor’s logic:

Premise:
Cops won’t behave in ways that might cost them their jobs because body cameras.

Claim: The black journalist who was arrested for interviewing people on the sidewalk in front of the bank who said he was arrested for interviewing people on the sidewalk in front of the bank “is flat out lying.”

Vikkor is dismissed.

Lash
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 07:53 am
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:

Do you not bother even checking how the articles you post would play out - to see whether the person is telling anything close to the truth?

Quote:
Arizona Tresspass Laws
https://www.findlaw.com/state/arizona-law/arizona-criminal-trespass-laws.html

Criminal Trespass (Third Degree) (Misdemeanor Only)
A person commits criminal trespassing in the third degree when a person:
- Enters or remains unlawfully on any real property after the owner or any other person with lawful control over the property has asked you to leave.


A potential defense to criminal trespass in Arizona is if the person lacked the "intent" to trespass. In other words, the person accused of criminal trespass didn't mean to trespass upon another person's property, and did so by accident. To establish this, the accused trespasser must show that they were not aware that they were unlawfully entering someone else's property.

The reporter had to be asked to leave before he can be accused of trespassing.

Phoenix police wear body worn cameras:https://www.phoenix.gov/police/community-relations/body-worn-cameras

Unlawful arrest also means unlawful assault. The police attending would likely face prosecution and lose their jobs, and for police - risk spending jail time for such a blatant breach of civil rights. It is highly unlikely this is the case, which means by far the mostly likely truth is, your journo is flat out lying.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 08:17 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
So sad that European nations have been induced to join in this destructive global disaster.

Not sad when you consider that they are helping the good guys to prevail against evil.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 08:19 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
There is great relief here among all democratic parties that we are finally (as was made public this evening) supplying Ukraine with "Marder" infantry fighting tanks. And the delivery of the "Gepard" anti-aircraft tank is also to be stepped up.

What do you and they hope to achieve?

Perhaps helping Ukraine to defend themselves from invading Russians?
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 08:20 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
I’m so afraid for you and others closer to the war that it is you and the poor Ukrainian people who will be impacted most by adding weapons.

Ukrainians are impacted for the better when they are provided with weapons that they can use to defend themselves.


Lash wrote:
But maybe now that Germany and France are more materially involved, maybe one or both can be more vocal pressing for peace.
Be assured the US will fight that.
Good luck.

If you want peace, convince Russia to surrender.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 08:21 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
#DefundMIC

Never! Doing so would be the end of freedom.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 08:23 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Here is a nation and political culture increasing the speed of it's descent towards fascism.

Nonsense. Israel merely protects themselves from Palestinian aggression.
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vikorr
 
  2  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 04:23 pm
@Lash,
vikorr wrote:
Unlawful arrest also means unlawful assault. The police attending would likely face prosecution and lose their jobs, and for police - risk spending jail time for such a blatant breach of civil rights. It is highly unlikely this is the case, which means by far the most likely truth is, your journo is flat out lying

Lash wrote:
Cops won’t behave in ways that might cost them their jobs because body cameras.
Lash wrote:
The black journalist who was arrested for interviewing people on the sidewalk in front of the bank who said he was arrested for interviewing people on the sidewalk in front of the bank “is flat out lying.”

This is blatantly dishonest of you.

My posts very clearly talked about likelihoods (and the likelihoods remains the same)
Vs
You dishonestly tried to have me talk about the absolute (absolutes when you don't know the truth are idiotic)

Are you saying:
- all cops are racist
- all cops are stupid enough to happily engage in racism on body worn video
- all cops are stupid enough to risk going to jail just to engage in racism
- all journalists are honest / would never lie about their situation
- therefore what you posted 100% must be true?

Because that is the idiocy of absolutes.

There will certainly be a small percentage of police stupid enough to do your version - but that is what it is, a small percentage. It seems big because the 650,000 of officers, each interacting with multiple people per day, 365 days per year - result in "61.5 million residents had at least one contact with police"...and are shown on 'one' news reel. 61.5 million...and how many do you actually see on TV?

I'm happy to wait for the evidence, and to be right or wrong, because I talked likelihoods - as do all honest people who don't actually know the facts

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Lash
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 04:53 pm
https://www.redstreetjournal.com/p/cia1

[DECLASSIFIED] - CIA INVOLVEMENT IN UKRAINIAN NATIONALISM
Discover the role the United States played in the growth of nationalists in Ukraine

Red Street Media Collective
____________________
Recently declassified primary documents showing US involvement with Ukrainian Nazis toward war with Russia.
Lash
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2023 05:17 pm
@Lash,
From the April 2022 article:
"In 2014, then Senator John McCain visited Ukraine...Canada has also offered its assistance in the training of Ukrainian Neo-Nazis...the US government revoked a ban on funding Neo-Nazis from its 2016 year-end spending bill."

https://www.redstreetjournal.com/p/cia1

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From Geoffrey M Young, candidate for governor of Kentucky, Twitter.
Running as a Democrat to unseat Beshears.

Interesting.
 

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