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Republican Convention

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 02:36 pm
Thanks horn.

I understood you to be labeling another members opinion as BS. Perhaps I misunderstood. <Larry

Deriding one's opinion and deriding they themselves are two different tacos.

On a seperate note, Sofia, I don't think that came out like you intended it. Did it?

Cycloptichorn
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au1929
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 03:00 pm
McG
Come on you can do better than that. Your responses are becoming more and more inane.
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au1929
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 03:01 pm
Sorry duplicate response.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 03:04 pm
au you're missing a lot by not listening to them and with careful planning you may be able to miss even more :wink:
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au1929
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 03:24 pm
BPB
I like comedy but those two jokers are lousy comedians.
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 03:43 pm
Sofia wrote:
Guiliani was priceless. He's always been very 'law enforcement'. ('Course, all GOPers are.)


It was Clinton that put thousands of police officers on the street. Bush has since cut the program WAAAY back. Just letting you know.

Great info, you might want to read the whole thing.

http://clinton4.nara.gov/textonly/WH/New/html/19980115-29365.html

"Since the crime bill passed, we've come a long way toward putting our goal of 100,000 police on the street. You heard the Mayor say how many there were in New York City. We have to finish the job, however. We're about two-thirds of the way there, since 1994. We've funded about 67,000 police officers.

Today, I'm pleased to announce that we are going to help New York City hire and deploy 1,600 more community police officers. With the new police officers, we now help to fund more than 70,000 of the 100,000 community police across America. And I want you to know we intend to keep going until we've got all 100,000 on the beat. We want to get it done ahead of schedule. And the big cities like New York where the problems of crime and drugs and guns once seemed absolutely insurmountable, real progress has been made."

As for Bushs record...

http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=37586&rubrik1=Politics&rubrik2=US+Politics&rubrik3=All&sort=1&start=1

New York City has seen a loss of 3,000 police officers in the last three years. Police executives say this is the wrong way to go given the increase in crime rates. $500 million is being cut from Homeland Security.

The International Association of Chiefs of Police says that the Bush Administration's proposed budget will have devastating effects on police departments and Homeland Security. The budget proposes a $1.5 billion cut in law enforcement.

http://harkin.senate.gov/news.cfm?id=218106

Drastic Cuts for Local Police Departments. The Bush budget would slash or eliminate many programs aimed at bolstering local law enforcement, including the Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) program, which helps local police departments put more officers out on our nation's streets. Under the President's proposal, the COPS program would see a reduction from $756-million to $44 million - a staggering 94 percent cut. Moreover, funding for three essential law enforcement programs - the Basic Formula Grant Program, the Law Enforcement Terrorism Prevention Grant Program, and the Citizen Corps Program - would be reduced from $2.2 billion to $1.2 billion (45 percent) under the President's plan.

If you want more... http://dailybeacon.utk.edu/article.php/9946
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 03:47 pm
honey....the truth? this will never do.......
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kickycan
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 04:25 pm
I thought the Repubs put on a very good show last night.

The one thing that I didn't like was those stupid Purple Heart band-aids that some were wearing to ridicule Kerry's Purple Hearts. Those are the people that make Republicans look like a**holes.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 05:22 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Sofia wrote:
The woman 'reporter' giving 'on the spot commentary' when the Firefighters' Union endorsed Bush used the body language and facial expressions one may use in a remote report as Steve Erwin is squished, half-eaten and dragged under the Nile, by the largest snake ever seen in recorded history.

She was hopping, swivelling, pop-eyed, dancing, ...I've never seen anything like it. Except on Soul Train.


I don't care who you are or where you come from....that remark was uncalled for....you want to see some hopping swivelling pop-eyed dancing.....head out to an all white pentecostal holiness church.....and even then the real pop eyed dancing is after service while the good christians count the gate......damn sofia!!!! I'm really surprised you made that remark....I'd expect something like that from Karzak or something....


I was laughing, sure you were joking all the way to the last sentence.

I can't believe you're serious.

Perhaps if you had made a similar comment about the wild moves of someone you saw, you may compare them to pentecostal holiness church. I compared it to what I'd actually seen. I could have chosen several metaphors to describe her behavior--but the one I picked was the closest representation--and because ....(what, the dancers are primarily black?) you are offended?

I'm offended you deem the reference off limits to me. I refuse to delete Soul Train from my metaphorical references. The reference was meant to compare the behavior of a reporter with a dancer. I thought I gave a good picture of what I was talking about.

It was weird that you felt the need to take some swipe at Pentecostal Christians. The people on Soul Train ARE there to dance. I wasn't insulting them.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 05:36 pm
On a seperate note, Sofia, I don't think that came out like you intended it. Did it?
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Not sure what you're talking about...?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 09:53 pm
It's hard for me to answer this, not living in New York City lately, but do you know this wall to wall thing is geared to who is president, Sophia?
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Piffka
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 10:18 pm
kickycan wrote:
I thought the Repubs put on a very good show last night.

The one thing that I didn't like was those stupid Purple Heart band-aids that some were wearing to ridicule Kerry's Purple Hearts. Those are the people that make Republicans look like a**holes.


I didn't see this, but Mr.P told me that Rudy G. was great... really good. "You would have hated it." he said (because I fear Bush's re-election). Glad I'm not watching, except for about a minute and a half of Laura Bush tonight who seems like a truly insincere person. She's just not believable to me.
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Thok
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:25 am
A analyse and accordingly stories about NYC and the Convention:

New York Stories

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Sarah Childress: Today was known in protester shorthand as A31 ?-the main day for all direct action and civil disobedience. Protesters had planned to pop up in smaller groups all over the city, then converge on Madison Square Garden, but much of the demonstrations were hindered by mixed messages. "Detention march was from Columbus PARK, not Columbus CIRCLE," read one mid-morning text message, followed quickly by, "Where is Columbus Park?" Instead, police corralled most demonstrators in pens at Herald Square and the public library, and threatened to arrest any large groups leaving Union Square. At a "Shut-Up-A-Thon" in front of Fox News, police placed and replaced metal pens to keep protesters in line, but nobody seemed to know where to stand. By late afternoon, the masses of protesters who had planned to convene at several locations couldn't regroup quickly enough to avoid police blockades. "This whole big cat-and-mouse game is frustrating for all of us," said one protester earlier, as she dashed downtown from a demonstration in front of Sotheby's to a street party in Union Square. (When the party became a parade of bands marching down the street, police penned in and arrested an unspecified number for demonstrating without a permit.) In another large arrest, police agreed to allow protesters from the War Resisters League to march from Ground Zero to Madison Square Garden, but instead herded them into a pen near Wall Street and arrested most of the group. (About 30 white-shirted marchers reconvened away from the arrests, only to be stopped at 28th street hours later, where they perfomed a "die-in," lying in the street in protest. All were arrested.) By 10 p.m. only a handful had arrived at the main protest pen on 8th Avenue, wondering where everybody else was. One group was trying to reach them?-the exuberantly rag-tag Utopian Street Orchestra?-but they stopped their musical march around 20th Street when they learned, via cellphone, that police had made another spate of arrests, and this time had netted their friend.



Gersh Kuntzman: The folks from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals are getting a reputation for being Klingons?-protesters who join other groups' rallies because they know they can't get any coverage on their own. So in the middle of a raucous, drum-beating, Bush-bashing protest in front of the Fox News Channel building in Midtown on Tuesday, there was a gaggle of PETA activists campaigning for their own presidential candidate, Chris P. Carrot (slogan: "It's a vision thing!").

Carrot dodged several of my questions?-and refused to comment on his relationship with a pudgy ear of corn that lingered on the edge of the rally (further research revealed that he was none other than Colonel Corn, his vice-presidential candidate.) A PETA campaign aide stood in for the candidate and handed out a pamphlet detailing Carrot's positions (strong on artery-declogging, weak on terrorism, except against animals), but it wasn't enough for me. "What's Carrot's position on ethanol subsidies?" I asked, eyeing that ear of corn. "Ethanol?" she
asked. "Is that a vegetable product?" When told that it was, the PETA person said, "Well, then, he's for it!"

Arian Campo Flores: Today is apparently the Republican convention's Hispanic Day, with numerous meetings and parties to extend an amorous abrazo to Latinos. It involved plenty of inspirational odes and occasional savaging of the Spanish language. At a gathering of the Bush-Cheney campaign's Hispanic outreach team at the Waldorf-Astoria, a few hundred raucous participants chanted "Viva Bush!" and vowed to galvanize the Hispanic vote in support of the president. Rosario Marin, the former U.S. treasurer, touted Bush's Latino agenda and contrasted him disdainfully with Kerry, "somebody who, like Cristóbal Colón [Christopher Columbus], just discovered that there were Latinos in the United States." She closed with a cloying performance worthy of a telenovela?-a Spanish-language soap opera?-recounting tearfully how the president honored her father, who was a humble custodian, at her farewell party after she resigned from the administration. "The most powerful man on earth paid tribute to this janitor for the work his daughter had done for the nation," Marin said. "That memory will last forever in my heart."


more stories here
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:45 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
I don't care who you are or where you come from....that remark was uncalled for....you want to see some hopping swivelling pop-eyed dancing.....head out to an all white pentecostal holiness church.....and even then the real pop eyed dancing is after service while the good christians count the gate......damn sofia!!!! I'm really surprised you made that remark....I'd expect something like that from Karzak or something....


the pentecostals?? hah! sittin' still next to those snake handlers in the low appalachians.

hmm. well actually some of those folks get kind of still after a while.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 11:33 am
ossobuco wrote:
It's hard for me to answer this, not living in New York City lately, but do you know this wall to wall thing is geared to who is president, Sophia?

Then, how could Guiliani come in with a plan--work the plan--and as a result, the bad statistics re NY turned to good ones?

Think I'll have to disagree with that one, osso--but I'm interested to hear your rationale on how this could be true. I'm pretty sure Guiliani recieved all the credit for turning NY around.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:29 pm
Sofia
Bratton, the police chief was more responsible than Giuliani for any improvements should note that after Dinkins there was no where to go but up. As for wall to wall prostitutes you must be reading press clippings. Things are not much different from they ever were, statistics be damned. We still have the "mandated" amount of shootings, muggings and etc. I can pick up the newspaper almost any day and find a shooting or stabbing or two. As for prostitutes. If you want I can tell you where they were and still are. You want drugs go to any housing project or neighborhood park. I should note that it is the same in every city in the US. Whether it be in Illinois, Maryland, Wisconsin or etc. Regarding Giuliani, Although I thought as mayors went he wasn't too bad many in NY had no use for him. What made him a hero was 9/11. And why because he did his job the way a mayor should in time of crisis. I would imagine that is pretty rare these days. My wife keeps asking me what did he do that declared him a hero other than his job. Damn if I know?
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:32 pm
Wall to wall prostitutes?

Damn, I gotta get back to the Big Apple quick...
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 02:44 pm
Sofia
Mayor Koch was IMO as good or better
Mayor than Guiliani. While sandwiched in was the bomb of all bombs. Dinkins. I take that back Lindsey was worse.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 03:24 pm
Sofia
Now as for a Mayor who was a hero I choose Mayor LaGuardia. He went to all the fires and what is more important when the newspapers went on strike he read the sunday comics over the radio. My Hero :wink: :wink:
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 04:25 pm
I broke down and watched a little of the convention on TV. It reminded me of friday night High School prep rally proceeding the football game on Saturday. Everyone blowing smoke and praising themselves. All smoke and no substance.
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