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Republican Convention

 
 
NeoGuin
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 06:33 am
Joe:

Lovely, but long. The march was 8 miles long and I walked another 2-3 getting to the assembly site and back to the bus.

My bloc also voiced our displeasure at AM-Radio's TV News Channel(FOX), and had a case where some Busheep, IMHO, tried to block our advance.

I just hope we did some good, so we don't have to gather in DC in Jaunary.
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Thok
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 07:05 am
Before the Conventions starts, there is a sensation from W Bush. Suddenly there is election and this say he about the war on terror:

Bush Tempers All-Out Terrorism Victory

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President Bush says staying the course in the war on terror will make the world safer for future generations, though he acknowledges an all-out victory against terrorism may not be possible.

In an interview on NBC-TV's "Today" show broadcast to coincide with Monday's start of the Republican National Convention in New York, Bush said retreating from the war on terror "would be a disaster for your children.'"

"You cannot show weakness in this world today because the enemy will exploit that weakness," he said. "It will embolden them and make the world a more dangerous place."

When asked "Can we win?" the war on terror, Bush said, "I don't think you can win it. But I think you can create conditions so that the those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world."

Bush planned to campaign Monday in New Hampshire, which has voted for only four Democratic presidential nominees in the past 100 years but is up for grabs this November. It's his eighth trip to the state as president.

Four years ago, Bush won New Hampshire by 7,211 votes, or just a little more than 1 percentage point. While Republicans outnumber Democrats among the state's registered voters, more than a third of those registered are independent.

Bush was stumping with conservative Republican Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, who also will be a speaker at the GOP convention.

Bush planned to hold an "Ask President Bush" event at a high school in Nashua, N.H. Later in the day, he was flying to a campaign rally at Heritage Park in Taylor, Mich.

Jennifer Donahue, an adviser at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics at Saint Anselm College, said Bush appears to have the edge because New Hampshire's economy is improving and many of the newcomers to the state are people who have sought refuge from Democratic president candidate John Kerry's home state of Massachusetts because of high taxes and housing prices.

But Donahue said the state also has a significant number of military reservists and Bush may be hurt by the large number of them 57 percent who have been called up since Sept. 11, 2001.

"I believe the election is a referendum on Bush," Donahue said. "Kerry can affect certainly how many of the fence-sitters go into his camp, but I think in large part this is basically a report card on Bush's first four years."

In voter registration, Republicans account for 34 percent of New Hampshire's 714,119 registered voters, while 28 percent are Democrats and 38 percent are undeclared.


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Sofia
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 02:04 pm
Looking forward to McCain's remarks tonight.

Despite the 300 or so arrests, things have gone smoothly seemingly so far.

Hope it continues.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 02:09 pm
Most of the arrests are related to a bike rally which blocked up some traffic.

According to the protestors, the police ended up blocking way more traffic than the bikes did. 'At least we were moving.'

Cycloptichorn
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Truthseeker
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 03:42 pm
1q2w3e wrote:
Truthseeker wrote:
I'm not connected to any political party, and would not stick myself anywhere on the left to right spectrum.

I believe in truth and freedom, and base all my thinking on that. My background is science, as opposed to superstition.


Actually your post seems to be based on conspiracy theories.


Why is that?
Please respond to the specific points you disagree about, rather than accussations, otherwise it's not possible to have a discussion.
As far as conspiracies go, it's conterproductive to speculate into their organizations before their discovery.

Let's please stick to reported facts (degree of actual factuality open to discussion), which can then be questioned with other facts.

I believe that humans by nature like to think in simple terms, make sense that we only want to do as much work as necessary. However, we must be always aware that our models only give a degree of truth. To affirm a cliche: the devil is truly in the details. I'm ready to discuss them.

Go ahead, blow my mind.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 06:50 pm
Laughing Go get'em truthseeker.....

Hey, Neo... have a Hersey bar when you get home....(Just noticed the Camp Hill locale... Cool

and yes, we will gather again in Washington in January to salute our new President, John Kerry.

Joe
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 06:59 pm
Yee haw!

Keep it up, New Yorkers, and keep it peaceful.

Question for Republicans -- hasn't there been a lot of stuff of "Celebrities should just be quiet, I don't need a celebrity to tell me what to think" yadda yadda? Is Ron Silver an exception?
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Brand X
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 07:11 pm
Yadda yadda is right, soz.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 07:33 pm
I don't know as I'd consider Ron Silver a real celebrity....but what I was struck by was the Senator from New Mexico speaking and deservedly so about the bravery of Jason Cunningham....when she stressed that he knew the dangers when he put on the uniform and volunteered to go to the place where he laid down his life I couldn't help but wonder why the man she supports for President could not bring himself to do the same.....to mention bush and courage in the same breath as Jason Cunningham dishonors his death and his legacy IMO......
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 08:25 pm
Great coverage of the demonstration, here in OZ. Very Happy Very impressive.
NYC is described as a "traditionally left leaning city". Is this so?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 08:34 pm
Uh, yeah!!
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 08:38 pm
... Just wondered, as it appears that they have a conservative mayor, soz.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 08:39 pm
yes msolga it is....so far the convention is one big "Look at all these cool people....they like me"

John McCain has whored himself out and lost my respect....really sad....
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 08:45 pm
Am listening to an ABC report on McCain as I type, BPD. ( the convention is a world event, it seems.) He's talking about Bush making the world "a better safer, freer place." Confused
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 10:46 pm
Man, it seems like the Republicans have a seriously well-oiled machine. Bringing out Giuliani, possibly the only person on the planet who could get away with invoking 9/11...that was brilliant.

New York is weird, msolga. It's like 70% Democrats, but Bloomberg is a conservative, and Giuliani, who New York loves (for the most part), was also pretty damn conservative. I don't get it either.
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2004 11:31 pm
Thanks for explaining, kickycan. I was confused, too.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 06:30 am
Both are rather liberal republicans.
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Thok
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 07:49 am
...nearly democrats.... ;-)

well, it is following the puplic opinion about conspiracy, again:


New Yorkers believe leaders knew about 9/11

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A poll conducted by Zogby International suggests half of New Yorkers believe their leaders had foreknowledge of the 11 September 2001 attacks.

Half (49.3%) of New York City residents and 41% of New York state citizens say some US leaders "knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around 11 September 2001, and that they consciously failed to act."

According to the poll, 66% in New York would like to see a new probe into the "still unanswered questions" surrounding the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

The poll was conducted on the eve of the Republican National Convention which is being held in the city.

The republican convention will use images from the 11 September 2001 attacks in an attempt to boost support for President George Bush, who is being challenged by Democratic presidential candidate John Kelly.

Fed up with silence

The poll was commissioned by W David Kubiak, executive director of 911truth.org.

Kubiak said the poll proved New Yorkers had unanswered questions on the attacks.

"I think these numbers show that most New Yorkers are now fed up with the silence, and that politicians trying to exploit 9/11 do so at their peril. The 9/11 case is not closed and New York's questions are not going away," Kubiak told the Zogby International website.


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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 08:31 am
Sorry, msolga, that was a bit more robust of a response than was called for. You're right, it is confusing -- New York in general is way liberal, though.
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angie
 
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Reply Tue 31 Aug, 2004 09:29 am
Guiliani and McCain both have aspirations for the White House, perhaps against Kerry in '08. So it makes perfect "political" sense for them to be supportive even when, in McCain's case, my guess is that he despises Bush.

I did not watch the coverage last night, but I heard Mario Cuomo later comment on Guiliani's reference to Kerry's prior comment that he would 'vote to support the war resolution again'. Cuomo explained, as many others have done, that Kerry's comment was, of course, truncated and taken out of context.

What Kerry said, if anyone is really interested, is that he would vote to give the president the authority to act in defense of the country (of COURSE) with the understanding that, barring the absence of an "imminent threat", that same president would exhaust all diplomatic alternatives before sending American troops into harms way. In this case, that understanding included going back to the UN and working (for I believe ONE MORE MONTH) with the weapons inspectors.

As it turns out, the whole WMD thing was irrelevant to Bush, and he never intended to adhere to any UN resolution unless it supported his real agenda: regime change/oil. He chose not to wait the month so as to make the "threat" appear imminent, and make the American people think pre-emption was justified.

Too bad he didn't heed his father's words:




- George Bush Sr, from his memoirs.
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