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Hundreds of Armed Right-Wing Militia Members Take Over Federal Building

 
 
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Mon 4 Jan, 2016 07:38 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

If they was peaceful they would not had come arm to the teeth period.




Cops are peace officers, right? Yet they go everywhere "armed to the teeth."

How do you explain that? I mean if they were really peace officers, why would they need weapons at all?
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Mon 4 Jan, 2016 07:40 am
@layman,
layman wrote:

Quote:
Of those 16,000 public lands ranchers, less than 1 percent have grazing bills that are more than two months past due, BLM said."


Yeah, and that's even in the face of the BLM raising fees to $1.35 per DAY, per head of cattle, eh? Anyone wonder why the price of beef has sky-rocketed? The feds don't really need (or deserve) that kinda money. They just want to put them out of business so they can take the land at bargain-basement prices.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 4 Jan, 2016 07:41 am
@layman,
Eager no but willing yes as unlike the one marine I support both the constitution and the government even those I to have issues with some federal government actions

Arms men threatening my government agents is annoying to be me whether they be middle east terrorists or these men.
Thomas
 
  5  
Mon 4 Jan, 2016 07:45 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
They've taken 100 ranches since 1900.

Since 1900 but not since 1942 is a long time ago. How does it justify an occupation today?
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 4 Jan, 2016 07:46 am
@McGentrix,
Love you logic or lack of same however if I was peacefully protecting government actions I would leave my firearms home and I would surely not threaten to used those firearms again government agents for any reason.

They surely are not being peaceful in any sense of the word.
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Thomas
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 07:47 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
ignore them

it'll drive them mad

A big snowfall cutting off their road to food should do it. It's been known to happen in Oregon. Just keep the snowplow in the garage.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 07:48 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
Cops are peace officers, right? Yet they go everywhere "armed to the teeth."

How do you explain that? I mean if they were really peace officers, why would they need weapons at all?
The original meaning (14th century) is that they have to assure the "absence or cessation of war or hostility".
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blatham
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 07:49 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Who has machine guns? Are we back to the old canard that all guns are AK-47's or M-16's?

A quick re-read of the post you've responded to would clarify that I explicitly said quite the opposite of what you suggest I said. Jeepers.

But if you look at the weapons that Bundy and friends are carrying, would you describe them as hunting rifles or as military weapons with rapid, multiple shot capacity? That is, weapons designed to kill many people rapidly.
layman
 
  -2  
Mon 4 Jan, 2016 07:53 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Eager no but willing yes as unlike the one marine I support both the constitution and the government even those I to have issues with some federal government actions

Arms men threatening my government agents is annoying to be me whether they be middle east terrorists or these men.


Well, OK, Bill, but you don't really sound that consistent, eh?

1. You keep talking about these guys ATTACKING others. But who's really gunna do the attacking here, if any is done, ya figure?
2. You say it's nonsensical to die over a trivial matter like this, yet you yourself would take that risk because it "annoys" you, eh? Are you nonsensical?
3. You say you can't respect these guys for acting on principle. Does what mean that you would have no respect for yourself? Or does it just mean you wouldn't be acting "on principle" but rather just be lookin to kill someone who annoyed you?
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blatham
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 07:57 am
The local country sheriff gets it right...
Quote:
"Some of the occupiers said they planned to stay indefinitely. Harney County Sheriff David M. Ward said authorities from several law enforcement organizations were monitoring the situation.

“These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers,” Ward said in a statement Sunday. “When in reality these men had alternative motives, to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.”
http://wapo.st/1RbaZn2
layman
 
  -2  
Mon 4 Jan, 2016 08:06 am
@blatham,
Quote:
The local country sheriff gets it right...


Do you really think that they think they're gunna "overthrow the government" by starting a revolution?
Thomas
 
  3  
Mon 4 Jan, 2016 08:06 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
But if you look at the weapons that Bundy and friends are carrying, would you describe them as hunting rifles or as military weapons with rapid, multiple shot capacity? That is, weapons designed to kill many people rapidly.

Better be safe than sorry. Those Oregon deer are vicious, I tell you!
layman
 
  -2  
Mon 4 Jan, 2016 08:13 am
As someone mentioned, it wasn't that long ago that Indians took over the federal buildings at Alcatraz Island for 19 month, claiming they had the right to do so under an 1868 treaty.

There again, the left wing cheered them on and called them heroes for their defiance. Waddaya think, Bill? A buncha mortar shells, or just one daisy cutter?
blatham
 
  2  
Mon 4 Jan, 2016 08:14 am
@Thomas,
Quote:
Better be safe than sorry. Those Oregon deer are vicious, I tell you!

No, no, no. You are confusing them with your homeland's teutonic cervidae - all chest-thumpy and blue-eyed. Oregon deer are fluttery, gracile and divine, like myself, come to think of it.
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blatham
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 08:16 am
@layman,
Please look up the word "attempt" in any handy dictionary.
layman
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 08:19 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Please look up the word "attempt" in any handy dictionary.


Yeah, and what would I learn if I done that, eh? Would I maybe learn what "motive" means, ya figure?
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layman
 
  -1  
Mon 4 Jan, 2016 08:25 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

The local country sheriff gets it right...
Quote:
"Some of the occupiers said they planned to stay indefinitely. Harney County Sheriff David M. Ward said authorities from several law enforcement organizations were monitoring the situation.

“These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers,” Ward said in a statement Sunday. “When in reality these men had alternative motives, to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.”


If the sheriff had said "resist" the government, I would probably agree. I think they had that "alternative" pre-planned if things didn't go the way they wanted. But "overthrow?" I can't imagine that. Oh, maybe I get it now...that would prove they're TERRORISTS, right? And not just any old terrorist, but god-damned redneck terrorists. Hillbillys. White trash. RIGHT WING!!!!!!
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McGentrix
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 08:34 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
Who has machine guns? Are we back to the old canard that all guns are AK-47's or M-16's?

A quick re-read of the post you've responded to would clarify that I explicitly said quite the opposite of what you suggest I said. Jeepers.

But if you look at the weapons that Bundy and friends are carrying, would you describe them as hunting rifles or as military weapons with rapid, multiple shot capacity? That is, weapons designed to kill many people rapidly.


I would classify them as hunting rifles. Aside from military and police weapons, no rifle is "designed to kill many people rapidly." They are designed for hunting and target practice. That people misuse them is no fault of the rifle anymore then an automobile wiping out entire families in a single accident. Yet, automobiles are not "designed to kill people." Right?
blatham
 
  2  
Mon 4 Jan, 2016 08:43 am
@McGentrix,
http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20140430&t=2&i=893197842&w=644&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=CBREA3T1RDP00

https://shariaunveiled.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/u-s-militia-3.jpg?w=627&h=320

http://www.tacticalshit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/patriot-1-900x450.jpg
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BillRM
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 08:44 am
@layman,
Quote:
Do you really think that they think they're gunna "overthrow the government" by starting a revolution?


Why not as for example a member of this movement by the name of ‎Timothy McVeigh another ex.marine killed hundreds with the idea it would start a revolution.

People who drive hundreds of miles armed to the teeth to confront the federal government is not wound too tight to begin with.
 

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