BillRM
 
  1  
Fri 25 Mar, 2016 09:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Here some more info on one movement of Cubans in mass to FL

Quote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariel_boatlift

The Mariel boatlift was a mass emigration of Cubans, who traveled from Cuba's Mariel Harbor to the United States between 15 April and 31 October 1980. The term "Marielito" (plural "Marielitos") is used to refer is these refugees in both Spanish and English. The boatlift was precipitated by a sharp downturn in the Cuban economy.

After approximately 10,000 Cubans tried to gain asylum by taking refuge on the grounds of the Peruvian embassy, the Cuban government announced that anyone who wanted to leave could do so. The ensuing mass migration was organized by Cuban-Americans with the agreement of Cuban president Fidel Castro. The arrival of the refugees in the U.S. created political problems for U.S. president Jimmy Carter, first when his administration struggled to develop a consistent response to the immigrants and then when it was discovered that a number of the refugees had been released from Cuban jails and mental health facilities. The Mariel boatlift was ended by mutual agreement between the two governments in late October 1980, after as many as 125,000 Cubans had reached Florida.

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cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 25 Mar, 2016 09:29 pm
@BillRM,
Actually, you're correct. I've been to Miami many years ago for a cruise to the Caribbean, and we stopped at Little Havana to buy cigars. That must've been at least two decades ago, and I've been to Cuba several times since then.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sat 26 Mar, 2016 06:18 am
A Mailman Handcuffed in Brooklyn, Caught on Video
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/27/nyregion/glen-grays-the-mailman-cuffed-in-brooklyn.html



On this afternoon, Mr. Grays was descending the steps of his mail truck backward, as postal workers often do to minimize wear and tear on the knees, when out of the corner of his eye he noticed a car making a sharp right turn onto President from Franklin Street. Mr. Grays shouted at the driver, climbing back up the steps to avoid getting sideswiped. The black car, in Mr. Grays’s telling, came tearing back his way in reverse. The driver said to him, Mr. Grays recounted, “I have the right of way because I’m law enforcement.” The unmarked car held four plainclothes police officers, according to the Brooklyn borough president’s office, which has taken an interest in the case.

By the time Mr. Grays arrived at the front door of 999 President Street, the police were approaching him. A video of the incident, taken by an observer on the street, begins at this point and shows Mr. Grays, in his postal uniform, as he is handcuffed, frisked and taken to the unmarked car. The officers tell him to stop resisting, even though there is no evidence in the video of resistance. What the video does not show, Mr. Grays said, is what happened next, after he was placed in the back seat of the unmarked car, with his hands cuffed and without a seatbelt, compelling him to leave the mail truck unattended. The driver, who had turned around to taunt him, hit the vehicle in front of them, Mr. Grays said, causing him to bang his shoulder against the front seat. Mr. Grays was then taken to the 71st Precinct station, where he was issued a summons for disorderly conduct that will require him to appear in court. He was then released.

On Tuesday, the Brooklyn borough president, Eric L. Adams, himself a former police officer, released the video at a news conference, expressing what he said was his outrage over the ostensible violations of the civil rights of yet another young black man, this one an employee of the federal government.

Mr. Grays is the oldest of six boys. His mother, Sonya Sapp, who lives in middle-income housing in Fort Greene, spoke briefly, only to say, “I worry about them every day, every minute, every second of every day,” before fading off with, “I’m short on words; I’m just hurt.”
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Sat 26 Mar, 2016 06:01 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
On the other side of the world in South Africa.
When I visited Cape Town several decades ago, we visited a large ghetto where only blacks lived. Their electricity was a haphazard job that branched out into the many small homes. As we walked, the children came and held our hands.
When we visited the university, we saw one black student, although we were informed that blacks were treated 'equally.' We were able to talk with that one black student, and he seemed hopeful for his future. I hope he graduated and found a good job.
While in Cape Town, we did see blacks working in restaurants as waiters.
I believed then as I do now, that blacks have a long road ahead of them before 'real' equality is enjoyed. I wish them well.
parados
 
  3  
Sun 27 Mar, 2016 01:18 pm
@BillRM,
Hang on Bill. This seems to describe your posts.

Quote:
The bot may achieve this by drowning out a legitimate conversation with repetitive bot-placed posts which may in some cases appear to be reasonable and relevant, in others simply unrelated or nonsense chatter


You are the plurality of posts on this page. Some of them seem to make sense. Some appear relevant to the topic but many aren't. Some of them appear to be nonsense words strung together. And then you throw in a post or 2 that are complete cut and paste of outside sources. All the earmarks of a bot.
BillRM
 
  1  
Sun 27 Mar, 2016 05:17 pm
@parados,
LOL and good try but for every post I had placed on this system there are many more by bobsal u1553115 concerning the actions of the evil police and almost all of them simple cut and paste.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 27 Mar, 2016 06:43 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Some of them appear to be nonsense words strung together.

Maybe, he's ESL.
BillRM
 
  1  
Sun 27 Mar, 2016 11:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Maybe, he's ESL.


I can only wonder the reasons why you do not value having information on the history of the human race to the point that such long lasting societies such as Rome and it government details are meaningless to the current US situation in your opinion.

Somehow I had the feeling you had not read a history book since you gotten out of HS school yet alone read such books as The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon.

Trump love the poorly educated such as yourself.
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hingehead
 
  1  
Mon 28 Mar, 2016 08:15 pm
I'm going equal time.

http://www.lifeofdad.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/the_talk.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/65/db/2e/65db2e5428e9fac147f21982dce8db35.jpg
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 28 Mar, 2016 08:43 pm
@hingehead,
There are good and bad people in every profession. There are even bad doctors and nurses.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Mon 28 Mar, 2016 09:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I can't believe how slow its been.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Mon 28 Mar, 2016 09:50 pm
@BillRM,
Do you suppose thats because this is a thread I started and that not only do I have to post new developments - I take the time to respond to your crap???
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 28 Mar, 2016 09:51 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
I think this thread has run its course.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Mon 28 Mar, 2016 09:56 pm
@hingehead,
That cartoon is a screwy piece of nonsense. It advocates a class of people not "act up" around public servants. Bull **** to that. It is more reasonable to compel the public servants to stop shooting people of color needlessly.

As for the photo. Why have we gotten to the point that a cop doing his freaking job is such a high point??????

Is the new norm shooting people while the highest praise is doing what one is paid and expected to do?
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Mon 28 Mar, 2016 09:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
It ain't over. PoC are still being shot down in the streets by rogue cops.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Mon 28 Mar, 2016 11:20 pm
http://www.alternet.org/books/us-city-still-incredibly-segregated-and-its-no-coincidence

This U.S. City Is Still Incredibly Segregated, and It's No Coincidence
White institutions created it, white institutions maintain it, and white society condones it.

By Natalie Moore / St. Martin's Press
March 24, 2016


The following is an excerpt from the new book The South Side by Natalie Y. Moore (St. Martin's Press, 2016):

Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in America. Chicagoans typically don’t live, work or play together. Unlike many other major U.S. cities, no one race dominates. We are about equal parts black, white and Latino, each group clustered in various enclaves. Chicago is a city in which black people sue over segregation and discrimination, whether it concerns disparities in public schools or not being admitted into hot downtown spots. Some people shrug off segregation because they say racism and white supremacy will still exist. I concur. But segregation amplifies racial inequities. It’s deliberate, ugly and harmful. The legacy of segregation and its ongoing policies keep Chicago divided.
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Chicago is compromised by the specter of segregation, which is often swept under the rug. We can’t honestly talk about problems such as violence and unemployment without addressing segregation. Throughout the twentieth century, black families faced white violence when they dared to move into white neighborhoods. Redlining, bad mortgages, racial steering and failed school policies led to the northern version of Jim Crow, all of which had a lasting effect. Today more than half of the black population in Chicago lives in only 20 of the city’s 77 communities.

Chicago’s diversity and segregation aren’t unique.

Nate Silver of the statistical website FiveThirtyEight has said that some of the nation’s most diverse cities are also the most segregated:

"You can have a diverse city, but not diverse neighborhoods. Whereas Chicago’s city wide diversity index is 70 percent, seventh best out of the 100 most populous U.S. cities, its neighborhood diversity index is just 36 percent, which ranks 82nd. New York also has a big gap. Its city wide diversity index is 73 percent, fourth highest in the country, but its neighborhood diversity index is 47 percent, which ranks 49th. . . . Most cities east of the Rocky Mountains with substantial black populations are quite segregated. There’s not a lot to distinguish Baltimore from Cleveland, Memphis, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Philadelphia or St. Louis."

In 2007, I took a job at WBEZ–Chicago Public Media as the South Side reporter set up in a one-woman storefront. It’s a dream job to tell the stories of my communities with the kind of nuance associated with public radio. In covering urban affairs and noticing disparities in my own neighborhood life, I always circled back to segregation as the common denominator. It was easy to connect the dots from housing to education to crime to food access: segregation is the culprit.

Black neighborhoods, regardless of income, fall prey to the perils of segregation. Retail redlining, the practice of businesses declining to come to black communities, is a nascent area of study, but a quick glance at black communities tells the story: businesses, despite high-earning blacks in many neighborhoods, apparently refuse to set up shop if too many African Americans live there. Research shows that this leads to billions of dollars in retail leakage: money doesn’t stay in the black community. The patterns of segregation leave black communities with joblessness, few grocery stores, boarded-up buildings and disinvestment. And higher murder counts. Economic development proves elusive. The only conclusion is that hypersegregated, poverty-stricken areas don’t get the resources that flood into more affluent neighborhoods.

Subprime lending and the foreclosure crisis undermined integration. During the housing bust, racial segregation grew. I don’t believe white people have to be the saviors of communities, but there’s no denying the disparities in the distribution of resources. Immigrants and white ethnics move out of their low-income neighborhoods with the assumption that another ethnic group will move in. The problem is that no other group wants to move into poor black neighborhoods. Well, except other blacks.

According to Princeton University sociologist Douglas Massey:

"It’s not about black people wanting to live with white people. It’s about access to all the benefits and resources of American society. Inevitably benefits and resources are unevenly distributed around the metropolitan area. To access them, you have to move. And historically in the United States, poor groups have come in, for example, and they settle in lousy neighborhoods as they move up economic ladder and seek to move up the residential ladder.

African Americans have never been given those first few steps up the ladder because the residential mobility has been so constrained. People are coming around to seeing that as a critical issue."

U.S. Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says that public acceptance of blacks is slow, and she contrasted the public acceptance of gays because of familiarity.

"Once [gay] people began to say who they were, you found that it was your next-door neighbor or it could be your child, and we found people we admired. That understanding still doesn’t exist with race; you still have separation of neighborhoods, where the races are not mixed. It’s the familiarity with people who are gay that still doesn’t exist for race and will remain that way for a long time as long as where we live remains divided."

America learned a long time ago that separate is not equal. Racial uprisings in U.S. cities in the late 1960s revealed what many blacks already knew: The country was moving toward two societies: one black, one white, separate and unequal.

According to the famous Report of the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders, better known as the 1968 Kerner Commission: “Segregation and poverty have created in the racial ghetto a destructive environment totally unknown to most white Americans. What white Americans have never fully understood—but what the Negro can never forget—is that white society is deeply implicated in the ghetto. White institutions created it, white institutions maintain it, and white society condones it.” Not much has changed since then.

Some people argue that segregation aids blacks economically. I’m not nostalgic for Jim Crow, the idea that segregation benefited blacks because of the misguided notion that we had our own and stuck together in intraracial harmony—we were “unified.” But those feel-good images casually dismiss the horrors of Jim Crow. I don’t think integration is the magic bullet either. But I ponder the future of Chicago given its acute segregation, which should be a relic of the city’s well-documented past. “In some respects, Chicago has exacerbated the problem of segregation, but it’s important at the outset to note that this is really a national problem that goes to the roots of our country when it comes to race relations,” Robert Sampson, a social sciences professor at Harvard University, told me.

Daily headlines on race, police, black bodies and white privilege barrage us. Black bodies are under attack and viewed as walking weapons. The Black Lives Matter movement boldly confronts white supremacy, police brutality and a racist criminal justice system. An urgent conversation on race brews in a cauldron of vexation: I think about race every day. I see race every day. I see that the conditions of black neighborhoods are often the product of intentional segregation. This isn’t a new topic, but it needs to be dissected and better understood, especially in the wake of protests in Ferguson, Baltimore and other cities faltering under the weight of segregation. A wider conversation about segregation seems to be happening in cities around the country. Ending segregation surely won’t end racism, but its dismantling will provide better outcomes for black people.

2016 Natalie Y. Moore. Reprinted with permission from St. Martin's Press.

NATALIE Y. MOORE is the South Side bureau reporter for WBEZ, the NPR-member station in Chicago, where she's known as the South Side Lois Lane. Before joining WBEZ, she covered Detroit City Council for Detroit News. She worked as an education reporter for the St. Paul Pioneer Press and a reporter for the Associated Press in Jerusalem. Her work has been published in Essence, Black Enterprise, the Chicago Reporter, In These Times, the Chicago Sun-Times and the Chicago Tribune. She lives in Chicago
BillRM
 
  1  
Tue 29 Mar, 2016 04:47 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Not one person in the BLM movement seems to care when young black men are shot down by other young black men.

The movement is not concern over black lives but just being anti police.


Quote:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/29/boy-who-pleaded-in-video-for-end-to-chicago-violence-shot-in-back-by-stray-bullet/

Boy shot in back by stray bullet after pleading in video for end to Chicago violence

By Michael E. Miller March 29 at 4:58 AM

Last year, 12-year-old Zarriel Trotter spoke out against the violence roiling his Chicago neighborhood.

“I don’t want to live around my community where I’ve got to keep on hearing and hearing: People keep on getting shot, people keep on getting killed,” Trotter said in a public service announcement about the effect of gun violence on the city’s black youth.

The video won an award, but gun violence in Chicago only got worse.

And on Friday, in a tragic and ironic twist, Trotter became one of its latest victims.

Trotter, now 13, was struck by a stray bullet Friday night while walking home after playing basketball, according to the Chicago Tribune. He was shot in the back, close to his spine, and remains in critical condition. No one else was injured, and there have been no arrests so far.

Eerily foreshadowed by the Feb. 2015 video, Trotter’s shooting was not as improbable as it should have been, however.

The teenager was one of more than a dozen people injured in shootings across Chicago on Friday, according to the Tribune. The city has seen a spike in shootings so far in 2016, with shootings nearly double what they were at this point last year and homicides up 84 percent, according to the New York Times.

So far this year, the city is averaging more than seven shootings and one homicide per day.

Trotter’s shooting follows a handful of other high-profile incidents of gun violence, including a shootout on Lake Shore Drive, a drive-by in front of a ritzy downtown hotel, the wounding of three Chicago Police officers during a gun battle with a suspect earlier this month and, most infamous of all, the Nov. 2 gang execution of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee.

The surge in gun violence is posing a headache for police and for Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel, both of whom also face criticism for their handling of police-involved shootings.

Some advocates fear that the bloody winter and spring bodes ill for warmer months, when shootings normally increase.

“Unless something radical takes place, it’s going to be a blood bath this summer,” Rev. Ira Acree told the Times.
hingehead
 
  4  
Tue 29 Mar, 2016 06:41 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Hi Bob

You misinterpreted that completely. The 'The Talk' cartoon was entirely about how wrong it is that 'The Talk' exists.

As for the second one -
a) he wasn't doing a cop's 'job' - he was doing a human's.
b) look back over my contributions to this thread - you seem to have completely misinterpreted my motives and opinion.
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Tue 29 Mar, 2016 10:30 am
@bobsal u1553115,
"The Talk" is something all parents should have with their children. I had it with my kids, and not because they are mixed race, it was the same exact talk my father had with me.
snood
 
  4  
Tue 29 Mar, 2016 12:29 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

"The Talk" is something all parents should have with their children. I had it with my kids, and not because they are mixed race, it was the same exact talk my father had with me.

People of color may have slightly different, slightly more urgent motivation to give that talk.
 

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