Black Lives Matter

Thank-you, McG, I appreciate that.

What in the world are you talking of. Now you are not even backing up your charge of a faked video, you are accusing me of posting a fake paste.

If I post the whole thing you tell me to cut, I cut it and you don't like that.

Give me an example of anything I've posted on this thread that contains any non facts or made up facts?

Unless there are clear reasons to think that a video is more likely to be true then not why would anyone waste time on it?

Any video coming out of a we hate copes website with no background given that would reinforced the idea that it might be valid then it should in my opinion should be disregarded.

Anyone posting such videos have the job of convicting people that they are likely to be valid not the other way around

I'm sure there isn't that much difference between the US and the UK. Here's some background: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/13/police-trust_n_4779074.html

Confidence in police lowest in 22 years.

The left, Obama and BLM have done their jobs. Obama started this crusade when he first came into office, when he commented on the "stupid cops" who wanted to see ID from Prof. Gates.

I'm sure this makes people like Bob feel like they have actually done something for "the people".

It was stupidity on the part of the Cambridge cop. He didn't stop after he got ID and knew he was in Professor Gates' home. Obama hasn't commented often enough or strongly enough or clearly enough on the inordinate violence and murder committed by cops on people of color, but I can understand why he's tried to temper his commentary. It's because insane police apologists who deny all police culpability all the time throw a jabbering, feces-flinging fit when anyone takes a stand against police brutality.

I agree with Snood on this as well. Even now, with all the new cell phone coverage and actual exposure this is getting, I believe we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. I believe there is a systemic epidemic of police brutality being thrust towards minorities in America. We are supposed to have justice for all and the cops are supposed to uphold the law. Protect and Serve the PEOPLE. That's been forgotten along the way.

Also, I wish we didn't have the amount of violent crime in America that we do that created this problem. It all goes back to the war on drugs.

Here's some facts about police shootings.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/21/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-but-minority-d/?page=all
We all have a sense that cops kill more blacks because of the media coverage they get. That builds an impression onto most of us that's totally wrong.

If I

We have a drive on by BLM and such people to paint all or most of our police officers as racists and therefore greatly increasing the fiction between the police and the black citizens.

The professor is a fine example of a man who took offense at being check out with the assumption that the officer was a racist not a officer just doing his job and making the home owner more secure no matter what his color might be

Yes indeed the officer should had have better control when face with the self important professor behaviors toward the officer but if the professor had been white the likelihood that he would had assume the worst and come into conflict with a man doing his job and thereby causing unneeded problems would be near zero.

"Near zero?" It'll be a minus 10!

Once I was in a downtown parking garage using a coat hanger to get my door open as the keys was in the locked car when two officers approach me with concern looks in their eyes.

When I was ask what the hell I was doing I laugh as I told them I was using a coat hanger that a US marshal had found for me from a federal judge chamber when I found that I did not have my car keys with me.

I had no problem with showing them my ID and my jury duty paperwork and in fact it ended up with all three of us working together to get the car door open.

Now if I had been black and raised with the idea that the only reason they would question me is due to my skin color I could see myself getting into unneeded conflicts with them.

Yes but not because of the man skin color but in how the professor acted toward the cop due to his feelings that the cop was being a racist for the 'crime' of making sure his home was not being broken into.

I can understand both sides of this issue, and they're both legit from their own perspectives. I, as an Asian, would not act aggressively towards any cop, and follow any direction he demands. I would always answer with "yes, sir!"

You've read my posts. Do I seem like someone that has a bleeding heart to be lead by some kind of imaginary social injustice? The police are professionals. They are trained to do their jobs and it should be expected that they act professional and do the jobs they are trained for. Just like doctors, train engineers, architects, bakers, actors, waiters, etc.

They chose a profession that REQUIRES competent, calm interactions with civilians that are not trained. The police are not only allowed, but required to carry weapons. When an officer does not diffuse a situation, but makes it worse, they stop being a trained officer and become an armed thug.

I have sympathy for most police officers. They have a job I would never, ever want. They have a huge responsibility that I doubt most of us could even fathom. Carrying the weight of life and death situations has got to be a terrible burden. But they are trained to do so. They must remember that they are volunteers to uphold the laws of society.

When a police officer stops being a police officer and becomes an armed thug, they should be dealt with appropriately. camera phones are making this a more public issue and we need to get our society back to a time when cops are someone I would want my kids to talk to because they cared about their neighborhoods and were more interested in helping people than arresting them.

Do you understand that we (or at least I) are not condemning every police officer? 99% of cops are great people that are just trying to lead their lives and do a good job. But, there is a population among the Police that just shouldn't be there and we need to weed them out and be sure that innocent lives are not being destroyed because they immediately succumb to an officer with a badge, a gun and an attitude.

If you were black, you have been frisked and arrested before you were even allowed to explain. Most likely by gunpoint. Do you see the difference?

Not really. There are laws against arresting without cause.

The police needs 'probable cause.'

I don't even begin to condemn every police officer. I'm a long time police procedural reader and not just re the U.S., where I live.

I do figure there is a culture of silence going on in some places over time, and some training session workouts and the camaraderie of the group may cause many to let stuff go re the unit as a whole.

I think there will be a problem where there are actually racist police, and also people in the force that want to keep their jobs and don't speak up. Similar to some office politics all over the world.

So, I find things quite a Top Down type of problem.