hawkeye10
 
  0  
Thu 5 Nov, 2015 07:13 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Police Are Three Times More Likely to Kill a Black Person Than a White One — When Will the Madness Stop?

If blacks are street criminals at a much higher rate than whites then this is what we should expect. Oh wait, they are.............Also, we seem to have a problem with blacks thinking that they dont have to obey cops. This would get them killed more often, as it should. So I say HAY! to your information. That sounds like justice to me.

There is no there there BOB! Why dont you shut up and read some books.
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Lash
 
  1  
Thu 5 Nov, 2015 08:02 pm
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Berkeley-High-School-Students-Walk-Out-After-Racist-Message-Pops-Up-on-Library-Website-341018802.html

Kids scared about KKK / lynching threat walk out of Berkeley High to UC Berkeley in protest - about 700 kids.

Kids yelling "Black Lives Matter."
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Thu 5 Nov, 2015 08:05 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
Kids yelling "Black Lives Matter."

Since when does what kids want or think matter in America? It is hard enough for those who have votes to get heard if they dont have a boatload of money or influence behind that vote. kids get ignored.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Thu 5 Nov, 2015 08:13 pm
One Elected Southern Politician's Struggle to Reverse Entrenched Racism and Police-State Mentality

The poor and minorities in Cobb County, Georgia have little voice, and even the most modest reforms provoke hostile backlash from the old guard.
By Zaid Jilani / AlterNet
October 30, 2015

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On a summer night in July in Georgia, Cobb County Commissioner Lisa Cupid was studying for her upcoming bar exam at a nearby hotel. She was friends with the owner, and had become accustomed to using the quiet space late at night.

That night she stayed until 1:30am, and as usual, an employee of the hotel walked her out to car for safety. She drove toward her home, which was close by. When she reached her subdivision, she noticed a car at the bottom of the street. The car, which had an apparently defective headlight, began to speed toward her car at the top of the hill. When she stopped at a nearby stop sign, the car approached her from behind, stopping almost close enough to hit her. She looked behind her, but the car's tinted windows prevented her from seeing who was inside.
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Frightened, Cupid called 911, and the dispatcher directed her to a nearby QuikTrip gas station, where she waited fearfully in her car until a police officer arrived. The officer explained that the car that had been tailing her was an undercover police vehicle, and that she was being followed because she was in the vicinity of the hotel. He said there was increased surveillance around hotels due to a series of recent automobile break-ins.

The most telling detail Cupid received from the officer is that the pursuit ceased once the pursuing officer had her vehicle tag read and realized he was following not just any young black woman out late at night in Cobb County, Georgia, but Lisa Cupid, a county commissioner.

After that night, Cupid has been working to establish a procedure for citizens to review police practices and address the use of undercover and unmarked police units engaging people who have not broken the law. Yet at every step, from the local media to her fellow commissioners to the police themselves, the reaction she has received to requesting even modest reforms and accountability has ranged from trepidation to outright hostility. To understand why, you have to first understand Cobb County, Georgia.

A Changing County With An Unchanging Leadership

The story of Cobb County is much like the story of Georgia as a whole. The county, like the state, has always had a sizable white majority that has controlled most of the political, economic and social institutions. Traditionally the disenfranchised group has been African Americans; Georgia's role as a former slave state leaves it with the most black residents in the country. In recent years, Cobb's demographics have added a second sizable minority group: Latinos. In the most recent Census estimates, a quarter of the population is now black and 12 percent are Hispanic. In 1980, the county was 95 percent white.

This diversification comes in territory that has seen its share of civil rights strife. It was in Marietta, Georgia that Leo Frank, who was Jewish, was infamously lynched. In the same city, the Strand Theater—now newly renovated and reopened after decades of closure—had a blacks-only entrance; African Americans entered shows through a sunken stairwell in a side alley, away from the glitzy front exterior. In Kennesaw, you'll find Cobb's national park, the Kennesaw Mountain National Battlefield Park, which was the site of fierce battles between the Confederate Army and Union soldiers a year before the end of the war and liberation of the slaves.

More recently, the county served as the organizing base for some of the Republican Party's rising stars. Newt Gingrich represented a portion of Cobb; despite the county elite's conservative politics (its official website is emblazoned with the slogan, “Low on taxes, big on business”), it was happy to rake in federal dollars. Think Progress reported that during Gingrich's reign, Cobb County received more “federal subsidies than any suburban county in the country," besides Arlington, Virginia and Brevard County, Florida.

But that taxpayer-driven wealth largely went to white-collar workers like those who worked on Lockheed-Martin's F-22. As Rebecca Burns has documented, Cobb's rapid growth has not been shared with all of its residents. One local charitable nonprofit, MUST Ministries, provided 247,087 lunches to kids whose families could not afford meals over the summer of 2013. Poverty from Atlanta has gradually spread out, with 40 percent of Metro Atlanta's poor now living in the city itself with 60 percent in the suburbs, many of them in Cobb County.

Though the county has diversified and there is increased demand for policies reflecting the needs of marginalized groups, institutions remain in the hands of an old guard. Cupid is the only Democrat among the county commissioners, and the only one who comes from a racial minority group. The other three county commissioners as well as the chairman are white Republicans, members of perhaps the most right-wing segment of an already right-wing party: Southern Republicans. The dynamics of this old guard's stronghold on power is best expressed through the lens of a recent decision that made nationwide headlines—relocating the Atlanta Braves.

The Braves are Atlanta's premiere sports team, having won the World Series twice. The decision to relocate their stadium from the heart of downtown Atlanta to suburban Cobb County came as a shock to many: how would a county with next to no public transit handle the challenge of hosting the state's top sporting events?

It didn't take long for one county power broker to share his view on the impact of the move. “It is absolutely necessary, the solution is all about moving cars in and around Cobb and surrounding counties from our north and east, from where most Braves fans travel from,” said then-Cobb County GOP chairman Joe Dendy, referring to counties that are further away from the state's capital. “And not moving people into Cobb by rail from Atlanta.”

The message was not quite explicit but easily received: Dendy was fine with other suburban counties bringing people to Braves games, but he was drawing the line at building transit so that poor African Americans from Atlanta would continue to come to Cobb, where their numbers have been steadily growing.

Interestingly, the one opponent of the Braves move was Lisa Cupid. Cupid was concerned about putting her constituents on the hook to pay for the stadium and surrounding infrastructure when there was little debate about the impact of the move. The rest of the commissioners were not so hesitant. In their minds, it may have been a sort of win-win: allowing constituents to go to Braves games without going into minority-heavy Atlanta, and with no decent public transit from Atlanta to the suburbs, they'd get a more homogeneous crowd than usual. The last big winners were contractors, who were awarded $250 million in contracts after the commission quickly approved the project.

“A lot of them are not opposed to the Braves,” said Cupid of her constituents. “They just want to be heard. They want to have confidence that their tax dollars are going to be used wisely.”

Cupid represents South Cobb, the poorest and most diverse segment of the county, and in a county where marginalized groups have grown in number but remain underrepresented in the halls of power, being heard is very, very difficult.

The county has often avoided dealing with issues facing the minority poor. Take the case of public housing in Marietta, Georgia. As Joe Cortright has documented, rather than trying to improve the lives of the poor, the city has simply been buying out public housing and demolishing it. So far, it has acquired around 1,300 apartments. “I go by Franklin Road as fast as I can everyday,” quipped U.S. Senator Johnny Isakson (R-GA) about the location of one of the complexes being destroyed.

The poor and minorities in Cobb County have little voice; the county's leadership prefers to ignore them at best or tries to rid itself of them at worst. It is this backdrop Commissioner Cupid faced, as she asked for the most modest of reforms.

Blaming the Victim

Immediately after her July incident with the police, Commissioner Cupid went to the County's Public Safety department (which operates the police force) and her own colleagues at the Cobb County Board of Commissioners. She didn't want to create a spectacle, she wanted to make changes so that the terrifying experience that happened to her wouldn't happen to other people. She took the most cautious and responsible path to make that change.

Cupid started by writing a seven-page memorandum detailing the incident and asking for a number of steps the commission could take to ensure that Public Safety acted with greater caution and oversight. The memo was meant to be private—Cupid was not trying to cause a media uproar. But it didn't stay private for long. The memo was leaked to the local media, and what was supposed to be an internal conversation about reforms and accountability quickly turned into a firestorm, with all sorts of stakeholders piling onto Cupid and berating her for even raising the questions.

“I don't call it profiling. I call it good police work,” said Commissioner Bob Weatherford, a 25-year police veteran. “The officer followed to see if someone had stolen the car or someone was doing something wrong. Got close enough to run her tag and then dropped back.”

Weatherford also seemed to justify harsher and indiscriminate tactics against Cupid and her constituents due to their geographic area, saying that South Cobb has 2 percent of the population but 22 percent of the crime.

Privately, commissioners were barely any more sympathetic to her. Through an Open Records request, AlterNet obtained emails between Cupid and her colleagues related to the incident in July. At one point, Commissioner JoAnn Birrell gave a statement to the Marietta Daily Journal seeming to blame Cupid for even objecting to how police had treated her.

“In light of the unfortunate incident that happened in District 4 with a fellow commissioner and our police, it's very disappointing when a fellow commissioner comes out with comments about our police force, and I would just like to personally thank the police and all of public safety and let them know that I'm behind them 100 percent for doing their job and for keeping all of Cobb safer. I appreciate the work you do for us day in and day out and throughout this entire county. Thank you and God bless you all,” Birrell wrote.

Cupid learned of this statement from Jon Gillooly, a Daily Journal reporter who emailed her the statement and asked for a comment. "JoAnn, Please re read your statement,” Cupid wrote to Birrell in a direct email following the inquiry from the newspaper.

Birrell responded: “Lisa. My statement below is not berating you. I am in the office most every day. If you would like to discuss. I am available if you are. Let me know. Have a nice evening. God Bless.”

The chairman, Tim Lee, offered a business-like response to Cupid, issued through a memoradum. In one sentence, he delivered a brief apology to Cupid for her treatment by Public Safety. He then launched into a lengthy legislative discussion in which he asked Cupid to compile a lengthy document detailing how a citizens review board, which she had inquired about following the incident, would operate.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7ijAs0EWRzm1qCOseQqAy1tQ_RyTnLS9pT3g7BBwHmp4YlZWVFezzQkugdnpp4b4pqzF1rFTMnMHD4c5i00CPBXHFt6nQHGTrrUjsZ_0FhB2T_0z-ThEavZ5XcBk67qnoms9t7lOjCeQqIU6

In an interview with AlterNet, Lisa Cupid explained that at no point did any of the commissioners, including Lee, offer her any condolences in person for the incident or for their remarks to the media. “That's the only apology I received. Never verbally, never in person,” said Cupid.

Cupid also received a lengthy memorandum from Public Safety, responding to her inquiries in a terse manner. That memo was also given to the media. “I felt like it was more of a CYA memo...it was more of a media response. It was not responding to me,” she said of the police memorandum.

Since these events transpired, there has been little traction for the establishment of a citizens review board or any other type of police accountability. Cupid told AlterNet that Public Safety has actually been more receptive to her inquiries about accountability than her own colleagues on the county Board of Commissioners. The Public Safety department recently paid for her to attend a meeting of the National Association of Oversight of Law Enforcement (Public Safety's director was supposed to attend as well, but later canceled). And Cupid said she has received around two dozen complaints from citizens around the county about similar treatment from police.

All of this is happening as Cupid is working on her core priorities—bringing public investment and revitalization to her relatively poor and diverse South Cobb district. She explained to AlterNet that since she began her role as commissioner, she didn't want to be pigeon-holed as someone totally focused only on criminal justice reform or race issues; at the time, she was working on trying to get funding for sidewalks. The day before the interview, a student was killed outside South Cobb high school while crossing the road. Cobb's public transit system is notoriously poor, though the percentage of the population who is low-income and thus would benefit from public transit has increased.

Commissioner Cupid's incident with the police, and the harsh backlash she received for asking for impartial accountability of the police, demonstrates the growing pains of a county whose leadership is out of step with its increasingly diverse population. Those growing pains will last until Cobb County is able to be a place that can truly represent all of its citizens.

Read all emails from county commissioners related to the police incident in July:

Open Records Result For Cobb County Lisa Cupid Case

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the rest is at: http://www.scribd.com/doc/287892753/Open-Records-Result-For-Cobb-County-Lisa-Cupid-Case
BillRM
 
  0  
Thu 5 Nov, 2015 08:33 pm
@Lash,
They fear the KKK all 5000 of them in a nation of 350 mlllions.

Why??????

Given the black on black homicide numbers the young men should look into the mirror instead to find the real threat to them being able to grow up.



bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Thu 5 Nov, 2015 08:37 pm
@BillRM,
Gee, TonyRM 5,000 ISIS members in the ME has you peeing your pants.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Thu 5 Nov, 2015 08:39 pm
Arrest of girl who texted in class prompts civil rights case

By MEG KINNARD
Oct. 28, 2015 12:12 AM EDT
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NAACP: 'Race is a Factor' in SC Student Arrest
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This three image combo made from video taken by a Spring Valley High School student on Monday, Oct,... Read more

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — A girl who refused to surrender her phone after texting in math class was flipped backward and tossed across the classroom floor by a sheriff's deputy, prompting a federal civil rights probe on Tuesday.

The sheriff said the girl "may have had a rug burn" but was not injured, and said the teacher and vice principal felt the officer acted appropriately. Still, videos of the confrontation between a white officer and black girl stirred such outrage that he called the FBI and Justice Department for help.

Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott suspended Senior Deputy Ben Fields without pay, and said what he did at Spring Valley High School in Columbia made him want to "throw up."

"Literally, it just makes you sick to your stomach when you see that initial video. But again, that's a snapshot," he said.

Videos taken by students and posted online show Fields warning the girl to leave her seat or be forcibly removed on Monday. The officer then wraps a forearm around her neck, flips her and the desk backward onto the floor, tosses her toward the front of the classroom and handcuffs her.

Lott pointed out at a news conference that the girl can also be seen trying to strike the officer as she was being taken down, but said he's focused on the deputy's actions as he decides within 24 hours whether Fields should remain on the force.

"I think sometimes our officers are put in uncomfortable positions when a teacher can't control a student," the sheriff said, promising to be fair.

Email, phone and text messages for Fields were not returned.

The deputy also arrested a second student who verbally objected to his actions. Both girls were charged with disturbing schools and released to their parents. Their names were not officially released.

The second student, Niya Kenny, told WLTX-TV that she felt she had to say something. Doris Kenny said she's proud her daughter was "brave enough to speak out against what was going on."

Appearing on MSNBC Tuesday night, Niya Kenny said an administrator told her to sit down, be quiet and to put her cellphone away. She refused.

"'This is not right. This is not right,'" Kenny recalled saying in the classroom. "'I can't believe y'all are doing this to her.'"

Kenny said Fields arrested her and handcuffed her inside the classroom.

Lt. Curtis Wilson told The Associated Press in an email to "keep in mind this is not a race issue."

"Race is indeed a factor," countered South Carolina's NAACP president, Lonnie Randolph Jr., who praised the Justice Department for agreeing to investigate.

"To be thrown out of her seat as she was thrown, and dumped on the floor ... I don't ever recall a female student who is not of color (being treated this way). It doesn't affect white students," Randolph said.

The sheriff, for his part, said race won't factor into his evaluation: "It really doesn't matter to me whether that child had been purple," Lott said.

Tony Robinson Jr., who recorded the final moments, said it all began when the teacher asked the girl to hand over her phone during class. She refused, so he called an administrator, who summoned the officer.

"The administrator tried to get her to move and pleaded with her to get out of her seat," Robinson told WLTX. "She said she really hadn't done anything wrong. She said she took her phone out, but it was only for a quick second, you know, please, she was begging, apologetic."

"Next, the administrator called Deputy Fields in. ... He asked, 'Will you move?' and she said 'No, I haven't done anything wrong,'" Robinson said.

"When I saw what was going to happen, my immediate first thing to think was, let me get this on camera. This was going to be something ... that everyone else needs to see, something that we can't just let this pass by."

Districts across the country put officers in schools after teenagers massacred fellow students at Columbine High School in Colorado in 1999. Schools now routinely summon police to discipline students, experts say.

"Kids are not criminals, by the way. When they won't get up, when they won't put up the phone, they're silly, disobedient kids — not criminals," said John Whitehead, founder of the Rutherford Institute, a nonprofit civil liberties and human rights organization.

Police should guard doors to "stop the crazies from getting in these schools," Whitehead said, but "when you have police in the schools, you're going to run into this — having police do what teachers and parents should do."

The National Association of School Resource Officers recommends that schools and police agree to prohibit officers "from becoming involved in formal school discipline situations that are the responsibility of school administrators."

At a school board meeting Tuesday night, parents spoke out about the arrest.

"This is not a race issue," said Rebekah Woodford, a white mother of two Spring Valley graduates and one current student. "This is, 'I want to be defiant and not do what I'm told.' ... The child is the one who can choose what to do."

School Superintendent Debbie Hamm said "the district will not tolerate any actions that jeopardize the safety of our students." School Board Chairman Jim Manning called the deputy's actions "shamefully shocking."

Fields, who also coaches football at the high school, has prevailed against accusations of excessive force and racial bias before.

Trial is set for January in the case of an expelled student who claims Fields targeted blacks and falsely accused him of being a gang member in 2013. In another case, a federal jury sided with Fields after a black couple accused him of excessive force and battery during a noise complaint arrest in 2005. A third lawsuit, dismissed in 2009, involved a woman who accused him of battery and violating her rights during a 2006 arrest.

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Contributors include Martha Waggoner in Raleigh, North Carolina. Kinnard can be reached at http://twitter.com/MegKinnardAP .
BillRM
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Nov, 2015 09:57 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Arrest of girl who texted in class prompts civil rights case


Seems if you are lucky by not teaching your child to behaved his or herself you can end up with a big payday.
BillRM
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Nov, 2015 10:05 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Gee, TonyRM 5,000 ISIS members in the ME has you peeing your pants.


I never knew I was so fearful of the ISIS, thank for telling me that I am that fearful.

By the way I also never knew that the KKK had heavy weapons and are riding around in tanks towing cannons behind them and seizing states and setting up governments in those states.

Thank for letting me know of this happening and that the KKK can be consider the same as the ISIS.
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Nov, 2015 10:07 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
I never knew I was so fearful of the ISIS, thank for telling me that I am that fearful.


BOB has a wee bet of trouble figuring out where reality is.
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snood
 
  4  
Fri 6 Nov, 2015 05:01 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Hey, just a friendly suggestion... You might want to read it yourself, post your summarized opinion about the information, and just a link for anyone who wants to read the particular pages long volume. That would at least give people a choice of going through all those pages or not. Unless of course you don't happen to give a crap about not giving anyone a choice but to scroll through your lengthy cut-and-pastes. In that case, nevermind.
Lash
 
  2  
Fri 6 Nov, 2015 05:47 am
@BillRM,
If your child is very violently attacked by a cop and someone has video of it.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Fri 6 Nov, 2015 07:19 am
Latest from Anonymous. Highlighted part shows that the KKK is still issuing threats. Even though white male right wingers don't personally feel threatened, the same cannot be said for normal people.

Quote:
The hackers' collective Anonymous has shared details of about 1,000 alleged sympathisers of the white supremacist Ku Klux Klan (KKK) on the internet.

Anonymous said the data was "a form of resistance" against racial violence.

The KKK last year threatened to use "deadly force" against those protesting over the killing of a black youth in Ferguson, Missouri.

A list of alleged KKK members published earlier in the week appears to have been fake.

That list had incorrectly outed several US politicians as KKK members and was quickly followed by a denial from Anonymous's official Twitter account.
Thursday's list appears to detail social media profiles of people who had joined or "liked" KKK-related groups on Facebook and Google+. Many of the profiles featured racist imagery and slogans.

Anonymous said it had collected the names over the course of the last year, using a variety of ways, from "interviewing expert sources" and "digital espionage" to obtaining publicly-available information.

The group said those on the list included official members of various KKK groups "as well as their closest associates (most are also in other extremist hate groups)". Some were listed with their alleged aliases.
Some members of this list are quite dangerous, sociopathic individuals. Others are not," Anonymous added in its statement accompanying the release of the list.

Some observers were not overly impressed by the list.

Mark Pitcavage, director of the US Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism, told Vice News it was "low-hanging fruit, basically public source information. For most of these people it's not a secret that they've been in the Klan."

He also said there were "all sorts of errors", including the mis-spelling of at least one person's name.
The release of the list came on 5 November, a significant date for members of Anonymous because it is the day that Guy Fawkes attempted to blow up the English Parliament in 1605. Guy Fawkes masks, made popular in the movie V for Vendetta, have become a symbol for the group.

The group launched its campaign, dubbed Hoods Off, after the Ku Klux Klan threatened violence against protesters - including Anonymous members - who took to the streets of Ferguson, Missouri, after a jury decided not to prosecute a white police officer who shot dead Michael Brown, a black teenager, in August 2014.

In November last year, Anonymous launched denial-of-service attacks to take down a website associated with the KKK and also took over two Twitter accounts connected to the group.

Anonymous expert Gabriella Coleman has described the outing of KKK members as a "comeback" for the hacker group, which has faced criticism for failing to control members and leaking inaccurate information.

The fact that fake data was leaked earlier will be seen as an embarrassment for the group that has become well-known for backing social justice causes.

To coincide with Guy Fawkes night, Anonymous held protests in cities around the world, including one in London where there have been at least 50 arrests.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-34736941<br />
Btw, it's not Guy Fawkes Night. It's Bonfire Night. I'm having mine tonight.

The Lewis celebration included burning an effigy of Cameron complete with pig.

http://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2015/11/06/06/cameron1.jpg
BillRM
 
  0  
Fri 6 Nov, 2015 07:58 am
@Lash,
Quote:
If your child is very violently attacked by a cop and someone has video of it.


After hitting the cop first, a video that for some strange reason exist but is not being play on the news.

No as a matter of fact the cop was the only one being attacked by this poor child and he was just using the force needed to removed her out of the classroom after he he been assaulted by her.

Any harm done to her was on her own hands for not getting out of the chair and then the classroom under her own power.

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izzythepush
 
  1  
Fri 6 Nov, 2015 08:12 am
@izzythepush,
Sorry, clicked on URL not IMG, here's the Cameron pig effigy in all its glory.

http://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2015/11/06/06/cameron1.jpg
BillRM
 
  -1  
Fri 6 Nov, 2015 08:12 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
A list of alleged KKK members published earlier in the week appears to have been fake.

That list had incorrectly outed several US politicians as KKK members and was quickly followed by a denial from Anonymous's official Twitter account.


You feel no shame for at first giving credit to the very idea that a number of US senators was member of this tiny tiny hate group?

Anyone with one brain cell in working order knew at once that such claims on their face was nonsense.

An fearing them is similar to fearing the American Nazis party. Yes there might be a few members that might do violence but not as an organization they are harmless.

Taking away the undercover law enforcement members and those who can not leaved their nursing homes there is little let to fear from the KKK five thousands members.

By the way do you hid under you bed in fear of the The British Union of Fascists party Izzy?
izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 6 Nov, 2015 08:14 am
@BillRM,
I feel absolutely no shame in reporting the news. And that's a bit rich coming from a nonce like you who has every reason to feel shame for your disgusting bigotry and perversions.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Fri 6 Nov, 2015 08:17 am
@snood,
The problem is if I post an extract and a link, they won;t use the link and then we get to argue the extract and I get compelled to post it in bits and pieces and have to use other sources and links to prove the extract which by this time has turned into patchwork salad with baldino on one piece, and TonyRM and Hawkshite on others. I'd rather get the whole or substantial stuff out at once and that's how I prefer the three stooges would post full or fuller articles, too. They have a tendency to post "facts" out of context and in opposition to their real meaning.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Fri 6 Nov, 2015 08:18 am
@izzythepush,
Isn't the pig facing the wrong direction?
izzythepush
 
  -1  
Fri 6 Nov, 2015 08:21 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Anyone with one brain cell in working order knew at once that such claims on their face was nonsense.

An fearing them is similar to fearing the American Nazis party. Yes there might be a few members that might do violence but not as an organization they are harmless.

Taking away the undercover law enforcement members and those who can not leaved their nursing homes there is little let to fear from the KKK five thousands members.

By the way do you hid under you bed in fear of the The British Union of Fascists party Izzy?


Anyone with one working brain cell would not write such slobberingly incomprehensible word salad.

The British Union Of Fascists disbanded at the onset of WW2. You really should try using a source other than your festering memory. The fascists in the UK today are the BNP, and they've lost of support to fascist light UKIP who are still not as extreme as your Republican Party.
 

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