giujohn
 
  -1  
Mon 18 Jul, 2016 01:17 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Bob:
Your feeble attemp to play the complaints I have about you by trying to put them back on me is as patently obvious as it is pathetic... I doubt seriously that you will no longer respond... you can't help yourself... If true it will be more than welcome.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Mon 18 Jul, 2016 01:46 pm
@giujohn,
Quote:
Re: bobsal u1553115 (Post 6227821)
Bob:
Your feeble attemp to play the complaints I have about you by trying to put them back on me is as patently obvious as it is pathetic... I doubt seriously that you will no longer respond... you can't help yourself... If true it will be more than welcome.


Like I said, full of piss.

Missed the adult questions that actually had something to with the topic, "Black Lives Matter", didn't you?

To the kids table with with you.
giujohn
 
  -3  
Mon 18 Jul, 2016 02:35 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Wow Bob that didn't last long what happened to your promise to ignore me?
oralloy
 
  -3  
Mon 18 Jul, 2016 02:37 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
By that definition the NRA is clearly a terrorist group. So is christianity.

Balderdash.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Mon 18 Jul, 2016 02:39 pm
@giujohn,
Your reading comprehension is very poor. I said I'd ignore you, I didn't say I was putting you on ignore.

I'm pretty much ignoring you. You're just too dense to get it.
giujohn
 
  -1  
Mon 18 Jul, 2016 04:59 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
LOL Bob you can't say you're ignoring me and then still respond to me... as far as reading comprehension is concerned you should probably look up the word contradiction..."pretty much".
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Mon 18 Jul, 2016 06:34 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
He has posted on another thread asking for help with his comprehension.

http://able2know.org/topic/333307-4#post-6227973
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bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Tue 19 Jul, 2016 06:51 am

Rhode Island Cops Accuse Black Man of Assault—but Video Reveals They Attacked Him First

“I just thought I was going to die that moment,” Fajardo said. “I thought I was going to lose my life.”

By David Ferguson / Raw Story
July 13, 2016


A video shown in court led a judge in Rhode Island to effectively exonerate a Providence man who was charged with assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest.

According to WPRI Channel 12, Amy Kempe—Public Information Officer for the Rhode Island Attorney General’s office—announced on Tuesday that 29-year-old Esmelin Fajardo will be allowed to enter a not guilty plea on charges stemming from a violent confrontation with police last year.

Kempe said that by order of Judge Kristin Rodgers, Fajardo was “allowed to enter a not guilty plea. If he stays out of trouble, the matter is off his record.”

Last September, two Providence police officers were on duty as patrons spilled out of a Broad Street club at closing time. Fajardo says police tried to make him leave the club.
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“I told him I worked there,” Fajardo said. The club belongs to his uncle. The police officer reportedly responded with indifference, ordering Fajardo to “Get the f*ck out of here.”

Accounts differ as to what happened next, but security video from the club showed Fajardo scuffling with an unnamed officer, who later claimed in court that Fajardo assaulted him. The officer punched Fajardo multiple times, hit him with a flashlight and pepper sprayed him.

“I stepped away. You can see it in the video,” said Fajardo to WPRI. “He grabbed me, punched my face, hit me with a flashlight. I was just trying to save my life.”

The officer said that Fajardo punched him with his left arm, but Fajardo pointed out that his left hand has been deformed since birth and cannot even make a fist.

“There was no way for me to make a fist,” Fajardo said. “Especially with my left hand,” which has no movable fingers.

The officer punched Fajardo in the face and head at least three times and repeatedly blasted him with pepper spray. Fajardo said that he was afraid for his life and instinctively tried to defend himself. The video shows him aiming a kick at the officer.

“I just thought I was going to die that moment,” Fajardo said. “I thought I was going to lose my life.”

“I couldn’t see or breathe after the pepper spray,” he explained. “I was scared.”

Providence Public Safety Commissioner Steven Pare said that other customers became involved in the melee at that point. When the officer drew his tactical baton, however, all action stopped.

Pare did not reveal the officer’s name, the specific findings of the police department’s investigation of the incident nor did he say what sort of discipline the officer faced following the attack.

“(T)he officer’s actions were scrutinized, retraining was implemented and discipline was executed,” said Pare.

Watch video about this story, embedded below:
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TheCobbler
 
  2  
Tue 19 Jul, 2016 02:05 pm
Woman Approaches Parked Cop & Makes Demands, Then He Sees Behind Her
http://madworldnews.com/woman-approaches-parked-cop/

Love Matters
TheCobbler
 
  3  
Tue 19 Jul, 2016 05:09 pm
Black Lives Matter March Turns Into Cookout With Police
https://www.facebook.com/NowThisNews/videos/vb.341163402640457/1111255742297882/?type=2&theater
giujohn
 
  -2  
Tue 19 Jul, 2016 05:54 pm
@TheCobbler,
Wait a minute wait a minute let me see if I have this right the cop was white the woman was black and he didn't shoot her down in the street ... she was black right? Okay this just must be an anomaly one crazy white man who apparently didn't get the memo... I mean after all he's supposed to shoot her down like a dog in the street... I mean isn't that what all white cops do?
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giujohn
 
  -2  
Tue 19 Jul, 2016 05:56 pm
@TheCobbler,
Wait a minute hold the phone we got another one... Cops are having a cookout with black people? Are you sure it wasn't a case of the cops beating them to death and taking their hotdogs and hamburgers? What is this world coming to.
hingehead
 
  5  
Tue 19 Jul, 2016 10:13 pm
I *love* binary thinkers.
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TheCobbler
 
  5  
Wed 20 Jul, 2016 01:07 am
@giujohn,
If you are trying to elicit a laugh, I can't for the life of me find the comedy.

Positive testimonies of the heart heal societies while racial brutality divides us.

If you would like to laugh at that go right ahead.

The do-gooders rarely go viral. We make histories from Hitler's and train robbers perhaps to remind society of their evil while the good deed is lost and considered weak.

It is so terrible cops dancing and socializing with the people of the community they serve. (cynical)

bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Wed 20 Jul, 2016 08:44 am
WP: Fairfax County Favors Independent Police Reviews Amid Concern Over Black Arrests
By Antonio Olivo and Justin Jouvenal July 19 at 8:55 PM

Fairfax County’s Board of Supervisors on Tuesday signaled support for creating more civilian scrutiny of instances where officers use force, a day after a report revealed that African Americans in the county are disproportionately affected in such cases.

Proposals to create a civilian review panel for police abuse investigations and to hire an independent auditor in cases involving death or serious injury stem from recommendations made by a police advisory commission created in response to controversy over the 2013 fatal shooting of an unarmed Caucasian man.

However, tensions nationwide over how African Americans are treated by the police spilled into a Tuesday meeting about the proposals, which the county board will likely vote on in the fall.

“Black lives matter!” an activist shouted, while others held signs that referred to the report released this week that showed more than 40 percent of use-of-force cases in the county last year involved African Americans, who represent about 8 percent of Fairfax’s population of 1.1 million residents.

more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/fairfax-county-favors-independent-police-reviews-amid-concern-over-black-arrests/2016/07/19/19985158-4d42-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_fxpolice757pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

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giujohn
 
  -1  
Wed 20 Jul, 2016 08:46 am
@TheCobbler,
No cobbler I'm not trying to be funny just the opposite... I'm trying to illustrate how ridiculous Bob's diatribes are. The vast number of contacts that people have with police by an overwhelming majority are positive but we never seem to hear about those. The incredibly small number of contacts that result in the death of a perpetrator... Usually because they are resisting arrest is what Bob brings out with a broad brush to paint all police officers as enemies of the people. I wouldn't mind so much him illustrating that very small percentage if he also Illustrated as you have done the overwhelming positive good that our officers do.
TheCobbler
 
  4  
Wed 20 Jul, 2016 07:06 pm
@giujohn,
A year of reckoning:
Police fatally shoot nearly 1,000
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/wp/2015/12/26/2015/12/26/a-year-of-reckoning-police-fatally-shoot-nearly-1000/

90 of them were unarmed. 1000 without a trial.

We have some really bad cops and some really bad criminals, this is a fact of life and it is societies duty to see that neither go unpunished.

This is NOT an anti-cop thread, this is not a pro-criminal thread.

This thread respects the rule of law.

This is an anti-brutality and crime thread.

Cops have to deal with bad criminals and sometimes in the heat of battle mistakes are made. This is understandable but sometime cops are mere criminals themselves, there is no doubt of this either.

This where Black and Blue Lives Matters comes in.

Neither of these social groups in totality are cop haters or racists.

They both seek justice and fairness under the law.

Let's TOGETHER see that they get it.
giujohn
 
  0  
Wed 20 Jul, 2016 09:05 pm
@TheCobbler,
From your article...

In a year-long study, The Washington Post found that the kind of incidents that have ignited protests in many U.S. communities — most often, white police officers killing unarmed black men — represent less than 4 percent of fatal police shootings. Meanwhile, The Post found that the great majority of people who died at the hands of the police fit at least one of three categories: they were wielding weapons, they were suicidal or mentally troubled, or they ran when officers told them to halt.

With out a trial? Certainly not the fault of the police officer.

I'm all for getting together as long as the argument is not one-sided or out of proportion.

I am for the rule of law. I don't care who you are... if you break it you need to pay a price. Whether you're a police officer a drug dealer or for that matter Hillary Clinton.
TheCobbler
 
  4  
Wed 20 Jul, 2016 09:13 pm
@giujohn,
I hope this forum is fair for both sides.

It is my duty to see that is so.

No one deserves to be unjustly accused or shot.

Especially when your only crime is not using a turn signal.

You would be hard pressed to find a crime Hillary has committed, millions have been spent to dig something, ANYTHING up.

Don't you find that to be the criminal justice system out of control?

Let's tar and feather her sterling reputation with dark innuendo and false accusations. (cynical)

TheCobbler
 
  5  
Wed 20 Jul, 2016 09:30 pm
Let's have some empathy and compassion here for both sides.

Justice is not always clear, it has convoluted circumstances and this is why we have juries and courts.

Juries and courts are not always right ether. This is why DNA has proven them wrong on many occasions.

He said she said and the outright lies on both sides.

A lawyer friend once call it "just-ice". I was offended by that phrase because I was not ready to believe this could be the case. I am prone to idealism.

I try and have faith in humanity and the verdicts of the court.

But the courts are not always perfect and this is where public scrutiny needs a forum of its own.

Checks and balances are the attributes of a healthy judicial system.

This is why I do not oppose dash cams and civilians recording officers and criminals in action.

Checks and balances.

One day you are a criminal pot dealer the next day you are marijuana dispensary.
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