BillRM
 
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Wed 20 Apr, 2016 06:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
blacks serve 20% more time for the same crime.


With the same criminal background history of the whites and the blacks?
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 20 Apr, 2016 06:53 pm
@BillRM,
You're pretty dense.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Wed 20 Apr, 2016 06:57 pm
http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/black-americans-given-longer-sentences-than-white-americans-for-same-crimes?news=843984


Black Americans Given Longer Sentences than White Americans for Same Crimes
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A new academic study of 58,000 federal criminal cases has found significant disparities in sentencing for blacks and whites arrested for the same crimes. The research led to the conclusion that African-Americans’ jail time was almost 60% longer than white sentences.

According to M. Marit Rehavi of the University of British Columbia and Sonja B. Starr, who teaches criminal law at the University of Michigan Law School, the racial disparities can be explained “in a single prosecutorial decision: whether to file a charge carrying a mandatory minimum sentence….Black men were on average more than twice as likely to face a mandatory minimum charge as white men were, holding arrest offense as well as age and location constant.” Prosecutors are about twice as likely to impose mandatory minimums on black defendants as on white defendants.

In federal cases, black defendants faced average sentences of 60 months, while the average for white defendants was only 38 months.

The report concludes that sentence disparities “can be almost completely explained by three factors: the original arrest offense, the defendant’s criminal history, and the prosecutor’s initial choice of charges.”
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 20 Apr, 2016 06:58 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Thank you, bobsal.
BillRM
 
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Wed 20 Apr, 2016 06:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
You're pretty dense.


Of course I am compare to you who will not accept facts no matter who is backing then such as the CDC.
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BillRM
 
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Wed 20 Apr, 2016 07:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
The report concludes that sentence disparities “can be almost completely explained by three factors: the original arrest offense, the defendant’s criminal history, and the prosecutor’s initial choice of charges.”


So what is wrong with sentencing for the degree of harm, and criminal history?

Seem that considering one way or another race would be wrong no matter how it turn out when looking back at race.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Wed 20 Apr, 2016 07:12 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Bill knows better, too.
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hingehead
 
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Wed 20 Apr, 2016 08:04 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Black people were killed by police at more than twice the rate of white people in 2015

Despite the higher total number of white people killed, black people were more likely to die at the hands of law enforcement when adjusting for population (per one million).
source
PER MILLION TOTAL
7.13 Black
3.48 Hispanic/Latino
3.4 Native American
2.91 White
1.34 Asian/Pacific Islander
SOURCE: The Counted, 1 Jan - 31 Dec 2015

Particularly striking:
Quote:
Young black men were nine times more likely than other Americans to be killed by police officers in 2015, according to the findings of a Guardian study that recorded a final tally of 1,134 deaths at the hands of law enforcement officers this year.

Despite making up only 2% of the total US population, African American males between the ages of 15 and 34 comprised more than 15% of all deaths logged this year by an ongoing investigation into the use of deadly force by police. Their rate of police-involved deaths was five times higher than for white men of the same age.





http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54ecf211e4b0ed744420c5b6/t/569534449cadb69b288bedee/1452618828280/2015policekillingsunarmed.jpeg?format=750w source
bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 21 Apr, 2016 05:21 am
@hingehead,
What in the hell are you trying to do? You know Bill's head could explode under the strain of so much fact and truth!!!
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BillRM
 
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Thu 21 Apr, 2016 05:57 am
@hingehead,
An black people are far more likely as in four times more likely to die at the hands of other blacks.

Black people are therefore far more into violence by the numbers then white people so why is it so surprising that they get into conflicts with police and others and end up dead more often due to attacking police officers or other citizens?

If Trayvon had gone home instead of attacking Zimmerman he would still be alive and if Brown had obey the orders of officer Wilson instead of attacking him he still would be alive today also.

footnote when ever an officer is attacked there is always a gun at the scene be the attacker arm or unarmed.


One 'gentleman' was being transported by two armed cops and not only was he not armed the man was handcuff and yet he got free and after seizing one of the officers guns killed both of them.

In any case if black lives matter to BLM they should teach black young men not to attacked police officers be them armed or unarmed themselves.
tony5732
 
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Thu 21 Apr, 2016 07:19 am
@hingehead,
You really think BLM is HELPING that problem? Basically BLM is teaching supporters it's cool to fight back against police, even when you are wrong. Every time a black person screams, yells, or fights with the police BLM turns it into a reality TV show. Next generation blacks are going to be the ones who want to be on BLM TV, which means they will be the ones being more resistant towards police. Yes, it's going to be white police that they will be resisting, meaning white cops will be put in more situations where they would need force. Then comes our "statistical analysis" which feeds BLM. Rinse, wash, repeat. Circle of hate.
BillRM
 
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Thu 21 Apr, 2016 07:33 am
@tony5732,
Quote:
even when you are wrong.


The courts-lawyers-review boards and so on is where you address any disagreement with a police officer not the damn streets no matter who happen to be right or wrong.
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BillRM
 
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Thu 21 Apr, 2016 07:41 am
Quote:


http://www.inquisitr.com/2957977/ray-lewis-takes-black-lives-matter-to-task-for-ignoring-black-on-black-crime/


Ray Lewis took the Black Lives Matter movement to task in an emotional new video post on his personal Facebook page.
The former linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens, who is no stranger to violent run-ins himself (per CBS Sports), took the protest movement to task for complaining of “one bad cop, two bad cops, three bad cops” while black-on-black murder rates are skyrocketing.
To start, Ray Lewis says that he was in his prayer room on Saturday morning (April 2) and found his spirit “very disturbed.”
“The things that’s ran in the newspapers have disturbed me,” the NFL great said. “[I’m] trying to figure out if black lives really matter, then why in Chicago alone the murder rate has soared 72 percent in 2016? Eighty-eight percent in the first three months of 2016 compared to last year. I’m trying to ask the question to an organization — black lives, if they really mattered, why not riot now?”
Citing statistics that there were 141 murders in Chicago this month compared to 82 murders last month, Ray Lewis said he was “trying to figure out in my mind why no one is paying attention to black men killing black men.”
He continued.
“Why do we always find ourselves half the victims, and now we have the separation once again that we’re being victimized because of one bad white cop, two bad white cops, three bad white cops, killing a young black brother. But every day we have black-on-black crime, killing each other?… The March murder rate rose by 29 percent, but we’re not rioting in the streets [about] black on black killing each other.”
He also criticized BLM for separating black people based on skin color instead of promoting “togetherness.”
If you think it sounds like Ray Lewis is prepping to become a Christian pastor throughout the almost 10-minute rant, you’re not far off from the reality.

As a Super Bowl-winning defensive player and a probable Hall of Famer when he becomes eligible in 2018, Ray Lewis has a large following on which to build his ministry, and he’s already started with impassioned pleas like this latest one to the almost 1.9 million followers that he has on Facebook.
Nevertheless, there were some who took exception to his calling out Black Lives Matter, with one commenter stating that is “missing the point.”
“Law Enforcement Officials are paid professionals not street people with street rules,” the commenter said. “So I ask you who paid you to say this?… I’m not a fan anymore Ray, but I know you [have] to feed your family so it’s not personal I just see through you.”
Another man called Ray Lewis’ remarks “divisive,” pointing out that the Black Lives Matter movement is about “police misconduct and racial disparities in policing.”
“You attacked an organization that is bringing awareness to an issue that has plagued Black people since slavery ended,” the commenter said, adding that people like Lewis needed to “take up causes on many fronts to make this world a better place for us all.”
The man accused Ray Lewis of “throwing shade” on a good cause in order to shine a light on his own, and said that it was “why our people do not progress.”
“I hope that the people from BLM reach out to you so you can come to understand,” the commenter added.
The divisive message also found plenty of supporters.
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hingehead
 
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Thu 21 Apr, 2016 08:04 am
@tony5732,
No, you're right. Much better that no one says anything. That way it will solve itself. If only those early american colonists had just accepted the rules the British made, after all they did fund and found the colony.
snood
 
  5  
Thu 21 Apr, 2016 08:22 am
@hingehead,
Yup, and slaves would've eventually gotten freed without a war, and women and blacks would've eventually got the vote without protest, and blacks would've eventually gotten civil rights without the bloody marches and protests... People ought to just be more patient and let those in authority work things out!
BillRM
 
  -1  
Thu 21 Apr, 2016 08:28 am
@snood,
Well in a nation of 20 millions or so almost a million died in the US civil war so a peaceful if prolong ending of slavery might had been better. In fact we might had not had suffer a hundred years of black mistreatment after the war.



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BillRM
 
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Thu 21 Apr, 2016 08:40 am
@hingehead,
Quote:
. That way it will solve itself. If only those early american colonists had just accepted the rules the British made, after all they did fund and found the colony.


Well it work out fairly well for the Canadians.

Footnote of we had continue with the British empire slavery would had likely to had been outlaw without any need for large scale war.
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tony5732
 
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Thu 21 Apr, 2016 09:41 am
@hingehead,
Yeah your right! BLM is over there wiping their ass with the flag anyway. It's not like they even like this country anyway. Maybe we let a few illegal aliens over here and give BLM a couple FREE bus rides to Mexico and call it a day. Kill two birds with one stone. We won't even need a wall.
tony5732
 
  0  
Thu 21 Apr, 2016 10:18 am
@snood,
It's not protest. It's rioting, robbing, destroying homes, and killing cops. There's a difference. My complaint was never about protest, unless it was a straight up call for violence. Which as hinghead explained, BLM at least did some back pedaling there.
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BillRM
 
  0  
Thu 21 Apr, 2016 11:08 am
@snood,
Footnote in the 1820s free blacks could in some southern states could even vote and there was movements slowly away from slavery until a slave name Turner lead a revolt that killed 60 men, women and children.

The heads of school children was cut off and placed in a circle for example.

The results of this bloody revolt was free blacks needed to move to the north or become slaves once more , laws was passed not to allows blacks to learn to read and write as Turner who could do both used his abilities to organized his followers.

In any case sometimes bloody revolts can be counterproductive snood something you and BLM should take note of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat_Turner%27s_slave_rebellion
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