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Sanders Being Harassed by blacklivesmatter#

 
 
snood
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 05:31 pm
Here's a story about a Jeb Bush Town Hall abruptly ending when a BLM member raised a question about why a disproportionate number of blacks are dying at the hands of police.

http://newsone.com/3166871/black-lives-matter-protesters-interrupt-jeb-bush-town-hall-in-nevada/

See? They're trying to spread the harrassment around! Smile
snood
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 05:35 pm
Governor Jerry Brown just outlawed the use of secret Grand Juries in police Deadly Force cases. This is exactly the kind of legislative remedy that BLM protests and agitation are pushing for - but not just in California.

http://newsone.com/3167064/california-governor-prohibits-use-of-secret-grand-juries-in-deadly-force-cases/
snood
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 05:38 pm
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 05:45 pm
@snood,
"raised a question" =/= grabbed a mic, insulted a crowd with racial epithets and shut down a scheduled meeting of 5000 who'd waited in the sun for 2 hours.

Nowhere NEAR equal.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 05:54 pm
@snood,
Of course Snood. Did you read his platform on racial justice? What do you think?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 05:55 pm
@snood,
Jerry is rocking lately..
his corgi concurs.

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snood
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 05:57 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

"raised a question" =/= grabbed a mic, insulted a crowd with racial epithets and shut down a scheduled meeting of 5000 who'd waited in the sun for 2 hours.

Nowhere NEAR equal.

All due respect but the 'Bernie is being singled out and persecuted' idea just doesn't have much fact to support it IMHO.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 06:11 pm
@snood,
I hear your opinion, but the facts say you're wrong. Anyway, maybe the cloud has floated away. We'll see.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 06:17 pm
@Lash,
Here's the shut down of Hillary Clinton by BLM. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-black-lives-matter_55cbbfebe4b064d5910a6f0b?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000016&section=politics

Try to make me feel these candidates have been treated the same --- or CLOSE to the same. Why not just be REAL?
snood
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 07:30 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Here's the shut down of Hillary Clinton by BLM. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-black-lives-matter_55cbbfebe4b064d5910a6f0b?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000016&section=politics

Try to make me feel these candidates have been treated the same --- or CLOSE to the same. Why not just be REAL?


Here are the facts as I see them:

1) Yes, Bernie got flamed by a couple of 20-something black women claiming to represent BLM. It was ruder than other disruptions by BLM of other campaigns.

2) There has been more than one instance of rank and file BLM members disavowing these two women as not representing the majority of BLM.

3) The overall take away for Bernie has been OVERWHELMINGLY positive - he has gotten sympathy from some, sympathetic outrage from some, and more support from others. He immediately responded to this challenge by putting out policy and vision statements that address the concerns of people of color in a more contemporary way. I don't think anyone looking at this soberly can deny that Bernie has benefited from being challenged - rude and disrespectful though it was - by people who say they were BLM.

Help me understand you on this, Lash. Do you want to prove that BLM has it in for Bernie? Do you want to come up with incontrovertible proof that there was a conspiracy conceived by Clinton operatives to use BLM members to discredit Bernie? Are you just trying to shame everyone who doesn't think it's such a goddam big deal that Bernie's rally got pinched by some (maybe not even authentic) BLM people, because Bernie's such a civil rights saint that how dare they?
What the **** is the point? Your combination of solid, researched facts mixed with over-the-top exclamations is not easy for me to follow sometimes, but generally you have good salient points to make. What the **** is your point here?
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 07:33 pm
@snood,
Yes on all that.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 09:02 pm
@snood,
The point is the lack of justice. The elite and the government dont give a damn about Justice as Bernie has long said, and neither do BLM. If we dont care to have justice then what is the point of all of these political skirmishes??
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 09:18 pm
@snood,
This such common sense.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 09:38 pm
Tea Party leader rants about #BlackLivesMatter: ‘Soros-funded anarchists and socialists

Innis went on to say that the discrimination that BLM and its adherents see in the U.S. is “the difference between perception and reality.”

The difference between BLM and radical groups like Outside Agitators 206, Innis said, is virtually nonexistent.

“There’s two kinds of anarchists,” he said. “Some anarchists want to create chaos and confusion within the law. Others do not, but they’re all a part of the same package. And they do not represent the interests of the community of Ferguson or black communities generally.”

“What we need is a president that it does not care about political correctness,” Innis said, “that is not intimidated by little thugs like the #BlackLivesMatter campaign that has intimidated O’Malley and Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. He’s got to be willing to stand up to the American people and say ‘These are the facts of life.'”



http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/tea-party-leader-rants-about-blacklivesmatter-soros-funded-anarchists-and-socialists/
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 09:44 pm
Bernie Sanders’ “Racial Justice Platform” Wins Praise From Black Lives Matter

It is difficult for a person, or a movement for that matter, to have their voice heard when no-one cares about, or acknowledges, that what the person or movement has to say is relevant. That was likely what incited “activists” identifying with the “Black Lives Matter” movement, official representatives or not, to interrupt Senator Bernie Sanders at Netroots and a rally in Seattle Washington over the past couple of weeks. For the record, the BLM activists also interrupted Democratic presidential candidate Martin O’Malley at Netroots, but it failed to garner the same outrageous reaction from progressives as when Senator Sanders was disrupted.

Obviously, the BLM-associated activists, like African Americans and people of color across the nation, are getting desperate to have their concerns addressed, or even taken seriously, or they would not have felt the need to disrupt a candidate reciting their “fire-em up” speeches. The good news for the BLM movement is that despite the “disgusting reaction” to activists interrupting the populist candidate Sanders, the “disruptions” achieved their desired results, albeit days later, and paid dividends because he came up with a new “racial justice platform” that won him praise from several prominent voices in, that’s right, the BLM movement.

As racial justice platforms go, even though it appears to have taken some pressure from desperate activists, it is beyond dispute that Senator Sanders hit a grand slam; it is no wonder he won praise. Besides a seriously comprehensive platform to address racial injustice, Senator Sanders hired a “young racial justice activist” as his national press secretary; another move that won him praise.


http://linkis.com/www.politicususa.com/M2eUK

Just informational post. Myself, going over the internets for my daily dose of political reading.

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snood
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 10:00 pm
From an article by John Nichols in The Nation:

http://www.thenation.com/article/we-need-activists-to-keep-politicians-honest/

" When #BlackLivesMatter activists challenge a Bernie Sanders or a Martin O’Malley, when climate-change activists challenge a Hillary Clinton, when campaigners against bloated military budgets challenge all the candidates, they do not merely draw attention to vital issues. They have the potential to make candidates and campaigns — and our politics — better."
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 03:59 am
@snood,
I didn't like how unfairly my candidate was treated - not by the MSM and not by BLM. I don't like that HRC gets kid-glove treatment and stage manages this situation to her benefit.

I told DeRay McKesson the same thing last night - and he said there have been meetings with Bernie's camp the same as Hillary's. It appears that the bullshit has come to a stop. They see that the public reacts badly to what looks to be collusion, and I hope they'll avoid it in the future or they'll get another earfull from thousands.

You must be right about making a lot of noise when you feel slighted. It's working for BLM and it's working for Bernie supporters as well. It felt very satisfying to be part of it.

I like how it turned out.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 04:29 am
Quote:
"Bernie Sanders’ “Racial Justice Platform” Wins Praise From Black Lives Matter....."


Sanders rolling over and playing dead for those Soros-funded BLM thugs strongly indicates that he would have zero chance in a presidential election against Donald Duck, much less any of the men seen in the GOP debate the other night.

Like the Joker in Batman, George Soros is an agent of anarchy. He is behind the "color revolutions" which have been fomented in Georgia, Libya, and the Ukraine and which the idiots would like to foment in Russia, and he is behind BLM. Nothing good could possibly come from anything like that.

And, if Hildabeast Dindu KKKlintler and Bernie Sanders are the best that any sort of a dem talent search can come up with at this juncture, the dem party is going down in flames next year.

The problem with Sanders is obvious enough:

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revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 07:07 am
@snood,
Exactly
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revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 08:23 am
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Protest exposes security concern for Sanders

WASHINGTON — When angry protesters swarmed the stage and took it over from presidential candidate Bernie Sanders at a recent Seattle event, his closest apparent protection was “peacekeeper” volunteers with no professional security training.

Some security professionals are reacting with alarm and disbelief to the video of Sanders abandoning the podium after two women hopped on stage and screamed at him to turn over the microphone from inches away. The protesters showed no intent to harm the Vermont senator, but they were able to get dangerously close to him and send an inviting message to any would-be attacker looking for a potentially soft target, former Secret Service agents said in interviews.

“Anybody who is interested in making a name for himself or herself, all he has to do is look at this video and say, ‘I’ll show up at the next Sanders’ site and I’ll make a name for myself,’ which is pretty terrifying,” said Andrew O’Connell, a former agent and federal prosecutor now with Guidepost Solutions, a risk management firm.

James Mottola, a former agent now with Creative Solutions Investigative Services, said the incident exposes the vulnerability of candidates and could demonstrate an opportunity for more protesters — or people “who want to do harm to him.”

“You don’t always know the intent of the people who show up at your events,” he said.

During the protest, Seattle police were about 30 feet from the stage, according to Robby Stern, chairman of the Social Security Works Washington Coalition that sponsored the Westlake Park event to celebrate Social Security and Medicare. The volunteer “peacekeepers,” who organizers recruited from unions and community-based organizations a week before the event, were the closest security to Sanders that Stern was aware of, he said.

The volunteers were “tough and strong guys” who received a training session that day from another volunteer and who would have responded appropriately had there been a physical threat, Stern said. In retrospect, he said, it would have been better to have more peacekeepers with more training.

“Obviously, our security was inadequate for the situation and I take responsibility for that,” Stern said. “We have certainly learned a lot from this and we will be better prepared next time, if there is a next time.”

Stern said he didn’t confer with the Sanders’ campaign about security before the event and didn’t know whether any other organizers did.

“I think they assumed we would do a good job of it,” he said.

A spokeswoman for Sanders said the campaign does not discuss security.

“No one can say that security is not a concern of ours, that we’re not taking proper precautions, because I believe we are,” said Symone D. Sanders, the campaign’s national press secretary.

The protesters at the Aug. 8 Seattle event were affiliated with the Black Lives Matter movement, the same group that disrupted speeches by Sanders and Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley at the Netroots Nation conference for liberal activists in Phoenix on July 18.

Event organizers learned through social media that there could be a disruption at the Aug. 8 event by the protesters, who are seeking racial justice reforms. They decided if the protesters made it to the stage, they would let them speak after Sanders’ remarks, Stern said.

“We felt that the issues being raised by the Black Lives Matter movement are very important and something that needed to be heard,” Stern said. “So we were not going to get into a physical melee nor were we going to have the police come and arrest them.”

But the women didn’t allow Sanders to speak and one screamed at Sanders, “If you do not listen to her, your event will be shut down right now.” They would not return the microphone to Sanders after they held a four-and-a-half-minute period of silence honoring Michael Brown, the 18-year-old unarmed black man who was fatally shot by a police officer in Ferguson, Mo., a year ago. Organizers shut down the event and Sanders eventually left without giving his speech.

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Tuesday accused Sanders of showing “weakness” by allowing the protesters to take over the microphone.

But Terrance Gainer, former Senate sergeant-at-arms, said the response on stage was appropriate, allowing emotions to cool without police involvement.

“Based on what I saw, fighting to regain the stage would be a fool’s errand,” said Gainer, now an independent security consultant. “The police could have won but it would have been ugly and for not a great reason.”

If Sanders had Secret Service protection, however, former agents said he would have been escorted off stage to a secure location. On Wednesday, a citizens' petition posted on the White House website called for immediate Secret Service protection for Sanders, given the recent disruptions.

Currently, only Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton receives Secret Service protection as a former first lady. Governors who are running for president receive protection from state law enforcement agencies. Major presidential candidates receive Secret Service protection later in the race, though some may qualify for it earlier. President Obama, for instance, received protection in May 2007 because of threats.

Candidates must always balance their needs for exposure and security, security professionals say. Sanders says he wants to address Black Lives Matter concerns about criminal justice reform — including the use of force by police — and the need to fight racism.

“We want to hear what they have to say,” Symone Sanders said of the Black Lives Matter protesters. “I don’t want anyone to think that if we have security at an event, if we’re checking bags at the door, that means we’re trying to silence the voices of protesters and activists.”

But security professionals agree that, going into an event, it’s important for candidates to have a plan for dealing with everything from a response to confrontations and a safe area for the candidate to how much weight the stage can hold.

Disruptions may become more frequent, given the number of candidates in the race, Mottola said. Candidates must consider security as a means to help them get their message out to voters in a safe manner.

“I think we have to provide security to let the democratic process play out,” Mottola said.



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