17
   

Sanders Being Harassed by blacklivesmatter#

 
 
Foofie
 
  0  
Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 09:51 am
@snood,
snood wrote:


All due respect but the 'Bernie is being singled out and persecuted' idea just doesn't have much fact to support it IMHO.


Well, in my opinion, the good news is that if "Bernie is being singled out and persecuted," at least it's not for his being of Jewish descent.
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 11:13 am
@Foofie,
Your comment kinda pissed me off at first, but actually its a good point and a hopeful sign. Maybe we all can start dialing down the hate.
bobsal u1553115
 
  5  
Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 11:15 am
http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/lc150814.gif
0 Replies
 
hawkeye10
 
  -3  
Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 05:04 pm
Quote:
ah, the irony of white people complaining about being interrupted by black people. White men live about five years longer than black men, and white women live about four years longer than black women – that’s including but beyond the crisis of police killings. The way I see it, white dudes have got to listen to a brother tell them why this is messed up for about five years before they can even think about saying their precious time is being wasted


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/14/black-lives-five-years-shorter-why-we-interrupt-you

As if I was not already aware of the lack of respect for my rights by BLM...

Quote:
Despite all this, whiny, pathetic “progressives” grew enraged that Democratic presidential nominee Bernie Sanders, who had largely been mum on race until he’s been forced to confront it this year by Black Lives Matter, was interrupted in Seattle by black activists. But how was that problematic? Sanders, 73, has already lived longer than the average black man. He’s got time the time to listen.


OK, so now we know that you have no understanding of individual rights, of the boundary where the rights of one person runs into the rights of others. What, are you three years old, cause this is a three year olds level of understanding .

Quote:
And Sanders’ white supporters – even at Gawker, who said Black Lives Matter shouldn’t “piss on your best friend” and actually argued the politics of civility for a change – should be quiet and reflect. They are inured from the dangers young black men face of being killed by police, and protected from lives cut short by hundreds of years of structural racism, health disparities, John Henryism and violence that are still felt today.

They are shielded from living in darker skinned bodies which have literally been rendered unable to simply stay upon this earth for as long as lighter skinned bodies.

Unless you can prove that this is white people fault I as a white person take no responsibility. Try eating better, drinking less, doing less drugs, and killing each other with guns less often and then see how long blacks live. This attempt to play on white guilt gets points for ballsy, but I as a white man am not actually expected to take this drivel seriously...am I? Please tell me that this is a failed attempt a humor.
0 Replies
 
jcboy
 
  6  
Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 05:32 pm
CNN is maximizing the story about the Black Lives Matter protesting Bernie Sanders because it hurts his campaign and for no other reason.

I'm a Clinton supporter but I hate the way CNN is always so biased in her favor. It was the same way back in 2008, if you recall. CNN has its own agenda and way of propagandizing. Not as bad as Fox, but getting there.
snood
 
  6  
Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 05:48 pm
@jcboy,
jcboy wrote:

CNN is maximizing the story about the Black Lives Matter protesting Bernie Sanders because it hurts his campaign and for no other reason.

I'm a Clinton supporter but I hate the way CNN is always so biased in her favor. It was the same way back in 2008, if you recall. CNN has its own agenda and way of propagandizing. Not as bad as Fox, but getting there.


but, but....it hasn't hurt his campaign
0 Replies
 
hawkeye10
 
  -3  
Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 05:48 pm
@jcboy,
Quote:
CNN is maximizing the story about the Black Lives Matter protesting Bernie Sanders because it hurts his campaign and for no other reason.

CNN has been burned by playing up victim stories, and is resisting the BLM victim story. The alleged Libyan rape victim that they went on and on about for months, that I think they actually worked with Hillary to get out of Libya, is now sitting in one of our jails. I said from the beginning that she was a fraud.

Quote:
Eman al-Obeidi burst into Tripoli's Rixos Hotel on the morning of March 26, 2011, six weeks after a Libyan uprising against Gadhafi erupted in the eastern city of Benghazi. She howled in front of foreign journalists staying at the hotel, bared the bruises and scars on her body and pleaded for help.

"Look at what Gadhafi's men did to me," she cried.

The images of al-Obeidi were seen instantly around the world. She personified courage as the woman who broke Libyan societal taboos in speaking openly about a horrific sex crime. She defied an iron-fisted dictator and in doing so, she became for a moment, however fleeting, the face of revolution.


Quote:
Her presence in the media caught the attention of global players, among them then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who eventually arranged for asylum in the United States.

Even though al-Obeidi expressed gratitude in the past for the role CNN played in publicizing her case, she refused recent requests for an interview. The woman who sought out the media and catapulted herself to celebrity status now wants nothing more than to avoid the headlines.

Libyan dragged away after rape claim

Few of the people who helped al-Obeidi settle in Colorado when she first arrived as a political refugee in 2011 are still in touch with her. Some describe her as a deeply troubled woman who has displayed public flashes of anger and behaved irrationally. Even the Libyan Embassy in Washington, which provided her with a life-saving, $1,800-a-month stipend, no longer maintains contact.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/30/us/libya-rape-victim-sentencing/

It was not widely reported but reported none the less that she was well known to be a nut job before she made her rape accusations. I was shocked that Hillary made a special case out of her. I was less shocked that CNN was conned. Eventually CNN got to be such a joke that they decided that the need to get back to making some effort to be a journalism shop. That means the BLM does not get the free pass that they likely were expecting to get. For this and other reasons the people in the movement are frustrated that they are not "getting the message out"....which actually means controlling the conversation.
0 Replies
 
hawkeye10
 
  -2  
Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 10:32 pm
That is the argument, that liberals keep blacks dependent upon the government, so that their next meal can be tied to voting right.
hawkeye10
 
  -3  
Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 10:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
Get thread topic:

AFTER THE GREAT RECESSION DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR BLACKS OR OTHER WOULD BE VICTIMS GROUPS TO TIE THEIR WAGONS TO THE D PARTY?

Blacks, the most sacred of the victims groups that the D's claim to protect were the most harmed group in the Great Recession, harmed by rules signed off on by and often with oversight conducted by.....wait for it....the D Party.
hawkeye10
 
  -3  
Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 10:44 pm
@hawkeye10,
At some point still reading and half believing the press releases gets to be ....embarrassing.
0 Replies
 
Olivier5
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2015 12:36 am
Poor people have been voting republican for centuries and they are still poor..
0 Replies
 
Foofie
 
  -3  
Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2015 03:38 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Your comment kinda pissed me off at first, but actually its a good point and a hopeful sign. Maybe we all can start dialing down the hate.


You get "pissed off" without thinking? Or, you don't want to share your initial feeling?
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Sat 15 Aug, 2015 05:40 pm
@Foofie,
What's your beef? I meant what I said.
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2015 08:11 am
thedailybeast: Who was *really* behind the #BlackLivesMatter protests vs. #BernieSanders?


Pretty good piece from the daily beast that addresses some of the issues that a few of us had at the time...

1) the dubious relationship between the protesters / agent provocateurs and BLM.

2) given the current BLM organizational structure (or lack thereof) it's difficult for legitimate members to challenge rogue elements within the movement.

...Nikki Stephens, 16, was hit with a barrage of Facebook messages and texts on Saturday night.

“My phone was blowing up,” Stephens says. “Everyone automatically assumed I was one of the two women”—the protesters who took over the Sanders event in Seattle.

Stephens, a high schooler and track athlete, had the keys to the “Black Lives Matter: Seattle” Facebook page. She had “watched the video from all angles” of Johnson and Willaford, and now—as the de facto voice of Black Lives Matter: Seattle, she believed—it was her turn to speak.

She had been drawn into the movement months ago by an activist who came to her school and compelled her to take action on the recent spate of young black men killed by police.

“I wanted to raise awareness—that this is not a joke. That people are actually dying,” she says. “That’s why I made the page.”

With the help and guidance of her friend, she started sharing stories of injustice and dispatches from the national chapter. Quickly, her page grew to be the largest Black Lives Matter page in Seattle.

Then Johnson and Willaford, whom Stephens had never met, took over the podium at the Bernie Sanders’ campaign event last weekend.

“I felt like I had to come up with a response,” she says.

There was, however, a problem: Stephens is a Bernie Sanders supporter. Panicked, she called her friend who had gotten her into the movement to plan her next move.

“I was like, ‘What should I do? I don’t really know what to do,’” she says.

As the night progressed, she started receiving messages filled with hate, threats, and racial slurs—especially, she says, from Bernie Sanders fans. They all wanted an apology—one for something she didn’t do.

So she crafted one.

“To the people of Seattle and ‪#‎BernieSanders‬ I am so sorry for what happened today in Seattle. I am a volunteer who just runs this page and I am only just starting to get into the movement,” she wrote. “I was unaware of what happened and now that I’ve seen the video I would like to say again that I am sorry. That is not what Black Lives Matter stands for and that is not what we’re about. Do not let your faith in the movement be shaken by voices of two people. Please do not question our legitimacy as a movement. Again I would like to apologize to the people of Seattle and I will be trying to reach out to Mr. Sanders.”

Some in the national media ran with it. ‘Black Lives Matter’ had apologized.

That’s when Stephens received messages from both Marissa Johnson and Mara Willaford.

“Of course, you can’t tell tone by text. But when they approached me, through texting, it felt sort of aggressive,” says Stephens. “But it wasn’t like they were mad. They were like, ‘Who are you? Why’d you start your page?’”

They told Stephens to change the name of her page—that she had no claim to Black Lives Matter: Seattle...

http://thebea.st/1DVIoMS


This certainly sounds to me like a disruption operation is going on to scramble the message of BLM.
snood
 
  4  
Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2015 09:04 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Possibly. I still think it's also possible that a couple of attention-hound types just used the moment and the BLM moniker. Amazing what outsized ego and hunger for the limelight will motivate people to. I mean, look at that bloviating ball of orange ambition we call Trump.
0 Replies
 
Foofie
 
  0  
Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2015 10:02 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

What's your beef? I meant what I said.


No "beef." But you said you got "pissed off" from my post initially, so I was interested how you construed my post to get you "pissed off." If it wasn't my post that elicited that response, I'd mind my own business.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2015 02:15 pm
@Foofie,
When I first read it it struck me as wrong minded. Re-reading it made 'get' your point AND I agree with it.

Jeez, what'd happened if I'da disagreed? Sheeeesh.
Foofie
 
  0  
Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2015 11:31 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

When I first read it it struck me as wrong minded. Re-reading it made 'get' your point AND I agree with it.

Jeez, what'd happened if I'da disagreed? Sheeeesh.


Nothing. You are an American, and are entitled to an opinion.
0 Replies
 
snood
 
  1  
Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2015 05:55 am
Activists ‘Feel the Bern?’

This is an excellent article by Charles Blow from the New York Times about the reaction of Bernie Sanders supporters to the black lives matter activists. It isn't very long, but it says exactly what I was feeling, better than I could ever say it.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/17/opinion/activists-feel-the-bern.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2015 10:54 am
@snood,
I think many of us dont pay NYT, so copy and pasting would have been helpful.
 

Related Topics

Obama '08? - Discussion by sozobe
Let's get rid of the Electoral College - Discussion by Robert Gentel
McCain's VP: - Discussion by Cycloptichorn
Food Stamp Turkeys - Discussion by H2O MAN
The 2008 Democrat Convention - Discussion by Lash
McCain is blowing his election chances. - Discussion by McGentrix
Snowdon is a dummy - Discussion by cicerone imposter
GAFFNEY: Whose side is Obama on? - Discussion by gungasnake
 
Copyright © 2022 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.09 seconds on 10/06/2022 at 11:58:09