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The media is misreporting this. This misogynist man deserves to go to jail.

 
 
Olivier5
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 09:21 am
@whitebars,
whitebars to Firefly wrote:

Ok, I'm going to adress you since you're doing most of the claiming that I'm not female.

So first of all, where is the picture of your vagina to prove that you are female? Pics or it didn't happen, right?

You could do that too. That would be most welcome, if not really conclusive... :-) And if anyone ever doubts that I am male, I could... errr... oh never mind!
firefly
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 10:43 am
@Olivier5,
I don't feel the need to prove I'm female, nor do I think it is helpful to pigeonhole each other on the basis of gender.

One advantage of internet anonymity is that we could be largely free of the physical baggage and restraints of gender, race, appearance, age, etc. in this virtual world, if we chose to do so, which would help to focus on our quality and substance of thought, and our individuality, and not on how we can be categorized.

You want to engage in nonsense about photographing and posting your genital junk, or welcoming photos of my vagina, go right ahead. This thread is already rather pointless and unfocused, so dragging it down even more, and helping it to self-destruct, might be your main contribution..

Olivier5
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 10:52 am
@firefly,
Quote:
I don't feel the need to prove I'm female, nor do I think it is helpful to pigeonhole each other on the basis of gender.

Then stop arguing that Whitebar is not a "she"...

Quote:
You want to engage in nonsense about photographing and posting your genital junk, go right ahead.

Get yourself a sense of humour, junk.
firefly
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 11:07 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
Get yourself a sense of humour, junk

Maybe whitebars was right when "she" called you a "whiny man baby" and told you to, "Go **** off." Laughing
http://able2know.org/topic/285933-2#post-5995275
Olivier5
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 11:19 am
@firefly,
Gender-based insults, now?

I have been polite with you while you kept calling my posts BS and 'junk'. If you don't like it, don't dish it out.
firefly
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 11:51 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
Gender-based insults, now?

I'm simply quoting whitebars--"she" is the one who leveled a gender-based insult at you. Laughing
Quote:
you kept calling my posts BS and 'junk'...


"Junk" is a slang term or euphemism for the male genitalia. It referred to what you offered to photograph to attest to your maleness--I was using the term accurately in the context of my remarks.

I called your defense of whitebars alleged knowledge of gender studies, "BS", in a single post, because I have first hand knowledge of the area from a very close friend, a social psychologist, who teaches in such a program as part of his course load, and his characterization of the material taught is definitely at odds with yours, and I defer to his greater expertise.

Those two instances hardly amount to my "kept calling" your posts anything. Stop whining. You're starting to sound like whitebars. Laughing.

Right now I have better things to do than spend time this way.





izzythepush
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 12:07 pm
@firefly,
Typical Ollie humour, makes a puerile comment about his bollocks then takes offence when he's called up on it.

I made a joke about his knob once and he had a hissy fit for at least a couple of months.
Olivier5
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 12:16 pm
@firefly,
Whatever...
izzythepush
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 12:26 pm
@Olivier5,
First "LOL" and now "whatever."

That book you're reading on Derrida really is paying off.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 12:27 pm
@whitebars,
So how did that work out for you?
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 12:29 pm
@firefly,
Sounds like a call/response troll in concert with two or three other members.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 12:32 pm
@izzythepush,
If you noticed Hawkeye has been very gentle with 'her'. Its a call and response trolling.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 12:36 pm
@Olivier5,
So what. All misogynists are full of hate.
Olivier5
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 04:09 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
So what? All misandrists are full of hate too...
hawkeye10
 
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Sat 25 Jul, 2015 04:31 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

So what? All misandrists are full of hate too...
These fools who go on and on about hate annoy me. Hate is a natural human emotion, and it is a very useful emotion. If we are traumatized because someone hates us then we did a very poor job of growing into adults, we should probably have a heart to heart with our parents.

And for the truly ignorant: Not caring is very destructive. Give me hate over not caring any day. But give me the real you, not the you somebody with power wants you to be. Have enough respect for me and for you (figuratively) to tell me what you really believe, who you really are. I have already way too many phony baloney people in my life, I dont need another one.
Olivier5
 
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Sun 26 Jul, 2015 04:53 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Hate is a natural human emotion, and it is a very useful emotion. If we are traumatized because someone hates us then we did a very poor job of growing into adults, we should probably have a heart to heart with our parents.

That's missing the point. One must distinguish between 1) hate based on an actual experience of evil, such as hate for mass-murderers, war-mongerers and terrorists, or in day to day life hate for a classroom bully, a mafia don, or corrupt officials; and 2) purely ideological hatred for entire demographics, whipped up by religion, racism, sexism, etc.

The former can be useful if it motivates you to fight against evil. The latter is baseless and destructive. What society do you get when all the men hate all the women and vice versa? What sort of society to you get when the whites hate the blacks and vice versa?A society of rapists and murderers. A society where people routinely enter a church or a school or a movie theater to spray bullets at other people. A society where cops can kill without retribution, until somebody starts to kill cops to even things out. And yes, a society where 6-yr-old kids can get expelled from school for kissing on a girl or touching a breast, because he is a sexual predator.

I don't care much for such a society. And not because I'm "traumatized because someone hates me", mind you. Rather, because I don't want my wife and daughter rapped, my son trashed and expelled by a heartless teacher, or myself killed.

In my mind, men need women and vice versa. Any escalation of the war of the sexes would send our societies to the dogs.

You have no business lecturing us about bipartism on the Bernie thread, about how it's soooo important for people to come together politically to get things done, if you think that hatred is hunky-dory. Let the democrats hate the republicans just like the republicans hate the democrats. Let the civil war begin, if baseless hatred is "very useful"...
Olivier5
 
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Sun 26 Jul, 2015 04:58 am
@izzythepush,
Just saying, the love you give is equal to the love you get. Treat other posters nicely if you care to be treated nicely. It's all very simple.
Olivier5
 
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Sun 26 Jul, 2015 04:59 am
@izzythepush,
Comes a point when you realize that the person you're talking to is just not listening...
hawkeye10
 
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Sun 26 Jul, 2015 05:33 am
@Olivier5,
Your niceness aint worth a damn if we cant talk honestly, if we cant be ourselves.

And sometimes we need to war and beat the **** out of each other. We are humans, that is what we do.

Remember a movie. Two guys outside beating each other up. Woman inside is asked where the men are....." they are ouside, coming to an understanding"

We are men not Gods. Remember your station in life.
izzythepush
 
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Sun 26 Jul, 2015 05:34 am
@Olivier5,
I thought you'd be used to that by now. When all you have to offer is opinion backed up by bluster you're not likely to be taken seriously.
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