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Edwards lack of experience

 
 
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:27 pm
Okay Cyclop, if I have to prove that that conservatives aren't any more homophobic than liberals, let's see your evidence that they are. You started it. Smile

(Remember that Dick Cheney's daughter is openly gay and no way they have her in the closet.)
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Miller
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:27 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Comparing time in public service ignores the nature of that public service; Edward's public service experience is entirely legislative, following a private litigational career. The Incumbent's public service has been entirely executive, following an executive career. Apart from a personal staff, Edwards has no experience of administering anything. Both Kerry, having served in military command and as a Lt. Governor, and Cheney, having headed both private sector major firms and cabinet-level governmental departments, have extensive executive experience. Given length of experience, and the nature of that experience, as qualificative parameters, of the four, Cheney by far would be the most qualified.


Wasn't Kerry in Vietnam for only 4 months? Question
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:29 pm
Bush was a ceremonial governor of Texas
Governors of Texas do not have the same powers as governors of other states:

http://texaspolitics.laits.utexas.edu/html/exec/0910.html

The Lieutenant Governor is the most powerful member of the executive branch.

http://texaspolitics.laits.utexas.edu/html/exec/0902.html

Bush handled mostly ceremonial duties and played executive while the real governing was done by others.

BBB
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Miller
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:29 pm
au1929 wrote:
Timber
Cheney
as you claim may be the most qualified. However, would a person with his medical history ever be elected to the office of president. He is a heartbeat away from the presidency and also a heartbeat away from the grave.


Cheney might have a history of heart disease, but don't forget that Kerry has a history of cancer. Mad
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:30 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I think you would also have a hard time proving that statement, fox....

Cycloptichorn


How many liberals in government came out for same-sex marriage? Even Kerry is against it.


As I have mentioned before, I am thinking of running for president.......
here is my stance on same sex marriages......

"Who gives a rats ass about same sex marriage one way or another? Terrorists want to kill gays and straights, cancer and disease kills gays and straights, uneducated unemployed gays are the same drain on society as unemployed and uneducated straights.

In other words, grow up, we have bigger fish to fry. From this day forward we will not speak of it. Marry who you want, f*#k who you want, as long as it's an all adult swim and everyone shut the hell up about it"

btw if marriage is so sacred that only straights are allowed to use the word....let's penalize all the straights who go against God (just like those filthy gays) by getting divorced. In my administration how about a 20% divorce tax, and how about we tax divorced people at a higher rate?
That'll keep folks together.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:31 pm
No, when the reporter was talking about Edwards being pretty, Bush could have owned that reporter by just saying something to that effect. "What, you mean you don't find Cheney sexy?"
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Miller
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:34 pm
rabel22 wrote:
It certainly does make a differance. Edwards can understand how the "common" man lives and what his everyday problems are while bush has lived with a silver spoon on his mouth from the day he was born. How can royalty understand the problems of the common man. Answer he cant!


Edwards, with his millions and millions, doesn't even know what the word "common man" means. Doesn't he now own three estates? But of course, he's still not in Kerry's league with the $1 billion in dough, he holds with his wife, Heinz-Kerry. Confused
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:37 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Okay Cyclop, if I have to prove that that conservatives aren't any more homophobic than liberals, let's see your evidence that they are. You started it. Smile

(Remember that Dick Cheney's daughter is openly gay and no way they have her in the closet.)


No, he didn't start it.

YOU started it, and I challenged it.

Prove it or admit you can't.
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Miller
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:37 pm
PDiddie wrote:
She's an airhead. Just look at her hairdo.

She wears the same red suit to every meeting, every convening of the Senate. It could get up and go to the Hill without her.

And I'll pay attention to the spelling of the Head Cheerleader's name if you'll pay attention to what's going on in the world once in awhile.


If you want to see something, look at John Edward's hair and then look at his wives. Why the big difference? Doesn't he give the "little lady" enough $$ to get her hair done? Mad
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:38 pm
PDiddie wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Okay Cyclop, if I have to prove that that conservatives aren't any more homophobic than liberals, let's see your evidence that they are. You started it. Smile

(Remember that Dick Cheney's daughter is openly gay and no way they have her in the closet.)


No, he didn't start it.

YOU started it, and I challenged it.

Prove it or admit you can't.


Quit being ignorant.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:39 pm
Miller wrote:
If you want to see something, look at John Edward's hair and then look at his wives? Why the big difference? Doesn't he give the "little lady" enough $$ to get her hair done? Mad


You must be bald... Very Happy
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:40 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Quit being ignorant.


Why don't you let Foxy defend her own self?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:42 pm
I'm not defending her. She can do quite a better job at it than I can. I would just prefer that you stop being ignorant.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:43 pm
Miller wrote:
rabel22 wrote:
It certainly does make a differance. Edwards can understand how the "common" man lives and what his everyday problems are while bush has lived with a silver spoon on his mouth from the day he was born. How can royalty understand the problems of the common man. Answer he cant!


Edwards, with his millions and millions, doesn't even know what the word "common man" means. Doesn't he now own three estates? But of course, he's still not in Kerry's league with the $1 billion in dough, he holds with his wife, Heinz-Kerry. Confused


You conveniently forget the fact that Edwards started out in a regular family with a regular income and worked his way up. Rags to riches. Only in America. Perfect example of the American dream in action. Were you thinking he won the lottery or found a briefcase full of money one day? Or came from money, like georgie? Who better to lead "common men" than someone who has risen up by his own efforts? Isn't that the red white and blue by God America you right wing guys are in love with?

Thought I'd get that in before one of our happy family members gets yet another thread locked up....... :wink:
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:44 pm
Well at this point I'm ready to vote for anybody with a clue and BPB seems as good a candidate as anybody. However, I think being for or against same sex marriages has little to do with homophobia and more do to with practical and equal protection issues that have nothing to do with sexual orientation. At least it does for me.

And Pdiddie, may I suggest a remedial reading class or at least a review of who brought up the whole homosexual thing that has nothing to do with this thread anyway?
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:50 pm
Why foxfyre I'm positively preening to hear you infer that I might just have even a clue......shocked but preening.....
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:50 pm
McGentrix wrote:
I'm not defending her. She can do quite a better job at it than I can. I would just prefer that you stop being ignorant.


Foxfyre wrote:
And Pdiddie, may I suggest a remedial reading class or at least a review of who brought up the whole homosexual thing that has nothing to do with this thread anyway?


When you resort to the ad hominems, you're run out of arguments. Cool
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:51 pm
John Edward's business and legislative experience
John Edwards owned and successfully managed his own private practice law firm from 1993 to 1998. That is more business management experience than Bush had at any of his failed business ventures.

John Edwards:

1998-present: US Senator (D.-N.C.)
1993-1998: Private law practice
1981-1993: Joined law firm of Tharrington Smith in Raleigh, working in criminal defense.
1978-1981: Worked as court clerk in Raleigh and lawyer in Nashville

John Edwards also has more government legislative experience than Bush:

A RECORD OF ACCOMPLISHMENT BIOGRAPHY

Raised in Robbins, NC Born in Seneca, South Carolina in 1953, John Edwards grew up in Robbins, a small town in North Carolina's Piedmont Country. His father, Wallace, worked in textile mills for 36 years. His mother, Bobbie, ran a small furniture refinishing shop and later worked as a postal employee. Worked His Way Through School A product of North Carolina public schools, Edwards was the first person in his family to go to college. He worked his way through North Carolina State University and graduated with a degree in textiles in 1974. He earned a law degree in 1977 from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. FamilyThe Senator met his wife, Elizabeth, when both were in law school. They married in 1977, and have had four children. Their first child, Wade, died in 1996. Their eldest daughter, Cate, is a student at Princeton University. The Edwards household also includes a 4-year-old daughter, Emma Claire, and a 2-year-old son, Jack.

A CAREER FIGHTING FOR REGULAR PEOPLE

Fighting For Those Without A Voice. John Edwards won a national reputation in the legal profession as someone who would take on the tough fights - he's given a voice to clients harmed by larger and more powerful interests: • Edwards Fought For Ethan Bedrick, Who Was Denied Doctor-Ordered Treatment By His Insurance Company. Edwards fought for Ethan Bedrick, who was born in 1992 with cerebral palsy. All of his doctors determined that he would need daily physical therapy to prevent him from losing the ability to use his arms and legs. Ethan's HMO overruled all of his doctors. Edwards and his law firm represented Ethan's family, and together they won. [Scripps Howard News Service, 5/13/00] • Edwards Fought For Valerie Lakey, Injured By a Faulty Pool Drain. Edwards won a record verdict for Valerie Lakey, a girl from Cary, N.C., who was gravely injured when she sat on a faulty swimming pool drain in 1993. Edwards received a public service award from the Association of Trial Lawyers of America for his work on the case. The incident inspired the North Carolina General Assembly and the US Consumer Product Safety Commission to act to ensure that no other child was injured like Lakey. [News and Observer, 7/14/98; USCPSC Guidelines for Pools and Spas, Pub. No. 363]

A RECORD OF ACCOMPLISHMENT IN THE SENATE

Fighting For A Bipartisan Patients' Bill Of RightsEdwards Was Central To Senate Passage Of The Patients' Bill of Rights. Edwards co-sponsored the Patients' Bill of Rights with Senators McCain and Kennedy and was a lead negotiator in the effort to reach a bipartisan consensus. According to the Washington Post: "With the bill on the floor, Edwards has played a central role in working out compromises with Republicans. [S.1052, DPC, Vote #219, 6/29/01, Washington Post, 6/30/01]

• Edwards Tapped By Daschle To Help Manage The Patients' Bill of Rights On The Floor. Washington Post: "Edwards was tapped by Majority Leader Thomas A. Daschle to help manage one of the most politically important bills on the Senate agenda ... Daschle, said one aide, saw in Edwards someone who understood the technical aspects of the legislation and who would be ?'a real asset' once floor debate began." [Washington Post, 6/30/01]

Fighting For Our StudentsEdwards Fought To Make National Education Reform Reflect Successes Achieved in North Carolina. In supporting the education bill last year, Edwards made sure it included a proposal to make national reform resemble the successes North Carolina has achieved in education reform. The legislation included specially-trained Assistance Teams composed of experienced educators and administrators dedicated to turning around schools once they are designated low performing--designed after the implementation of successful Assistance Teams in North Carolina. [S.1, 107th; Managers Packet of Amendments offered in HELP Committee 3/7-8/01 by Senator Jeffords] Edwards Proposed a High School Community Corps. Edwards has proposed a new national service initiative for high school students. Edwards' bill will establish a nationwide competitive grant program to provide assistance to states or local school districts that require a community service commitment as a condition for high school graduation. [Press release, 3/11/02]

Edwards And His Wife Opened An After-School Learning Lab In Raleigh, NC. Edwards and his wife Elizabeth established an educational foundation in memory of their son Wade, which opened the Wade Edwards Learning Lab and has since opened other labs. The labs offer students after-school access to computers and tutoring in technology. The foundation also offers college scholarships to gifted students.

Fighting Terrorism Edwards Has Introduced Key Legislation Relating to Terrorism. Edwards has been very active in strengthening our homeland security and ensuring the nation is preventing future terrorist attacks. The Durham Herald Sun noted: "List just a few of the nation's security and safety problems tackled on Capitol Hill since the Sept. 11 attacks, and Edwards and his pen are probably not far from them." [Herald Sun, 11/26/01]

• The Biological and Chemical Weapons Preparedness Act. The bill, sponsored by Edwards, establishes a coordinated national plan for responding to biological and chemical weapons attacks and directs states to develop plans for dealing with such attacks. Major provisions of this bill were passed by the Senate in the Bioterrorism Preparedness Act. [S. 1486]

• The Airport and Seaport Terrorism Prevention Act. This legislation specified the use of new identification technologies to screen airport employees. Parts of Edwards' proposal were passed by the Senate and signed into law by the President.

• The Cyberterrorism Preparedness Act and the Cybersecurity Research and Education Act: These bills seek to strengthen our nation's preparedness and ability to ward off a cyber attack by terrorists.

Protecting the Environment Edwards has Fought to Protect the Environment. Edwards has fought to keep our environment clean now and for generations to come. He has voted to provide a six-month moratorium on oil and gas drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, voted against leasing land in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for oil exploration and production and voted against requiring Congressional approval for the President to designate land as a National monument.

In addition, Edwards opposed efforts to undermine fuel efficiency standards. [Vote #231, 7/12/01, Vote #58, 4/6/00, Vote #208, 7/18/00; Vote #47, 2002]Fighting For Campaign Finance Reform Edwards "Delivered" On Campaign Finance Reform. As a co-sponsor of McCain-Feingold, Edwards followed through on his campaign promise to enact meaningful campaign finance reform. Newspaper columnist Thomas Oliphant noted this promise, and wrote that during last year's debate on the legislation - "Edwards delivered." [DPC, Vote #64, 4/2/01, Vote #330, 10/19/99, Vote #331, 10/19/99; Boston Globe, 4/2/01]

Standing Up for Working FamiliesEdwards Has Fought for Working Families. Edwards believes that working families deserve a government that works for them. That's why he supports increases in the minimum wage, believes we must protect workplace safety laws and a strong OSHA, and will fight to protect the rights of workers to unionize. [CQ, Vote 75, 4/7/00; Vote 76, 4/7/00; Vote 376, 11/9/99]

Protecting Reproductive RightsEdwards Supports Reproductive Rights. Edwards has consistently supported reproductive rights for women, from his campaign for the senate through today. He has voted to support Roe V. Wade, to overturn the Administration's new "global gag rule," and for reproductive rights for women in the military. [Vote 336, 10/21/99; Vote 337, 10/21/99; Vote 312, 10/24/01; Vote 134, 6/20/00]
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:54 pm
PDiddie wrote:
(In case anyone was wondering, this is the same thing as asking Iraq to prove they don't have weapons of mass fantasy. Do you still beat your wife, McG?)



You write this kind of ignorant crap and follow it up with this ignorant crap?


PDiddie wrote:
When you resort to the ad hominems, you're run out of arguments.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2004 12:58 pm
countdown to lockdown....
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