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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2015 06:39 am
This thread was started as a satire. It's intent is humor. You're about as funny as a crutch.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2015 06:45 am
@hingehead,
I figured you had had a few days to recover (from the wine). But I don't blame you for not grasping the article on or off the wine. After going through some other mind boggling concepts (doubly special relativity! etc) it said:

Quote:
Just to make things more complicated Dr Mir says we have been looking at the question ‘how did the universe come from nothing?’ all wrong.
According to the extraordinary findings, the question is irrelevant because the universe STILL is nothing


I contend that NO ONE can truly grasp that in any real way.

Mir is content to reduce the universe to a mathematical equation where you can plug in any value anywhere to make the answer you expect. Whether he really understands what he did or that his reasoning was valid, neither of us is qualified to say.

I still call 'bullshit'.

As far as the 'assuming he exists' thing, I was trying not to sound preachy, but yes, I'm sure.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2015 06:47 am
Hey, asshole--there's the door, don't let it hit ya in the ass as you leave.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2015 06:55 am
@Setanta,
Pesky random thought prompted by your past comments:
Love your avatar BTW. Do you love your dog? Do you think that he thinks you are God?
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2015 07:00 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
This thread was started as a satire. It's intent is humor. You're about as funny as a crutch.
I thought the article Hinge posted WAS funny. Maybe satire too.

If I bother you too much, 'ignore' is an option. I won't be offended.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2015 07:00 am
My profound apologies to other participants in this thread, for feeding the troll. It's small wonder people have largely stopped posting here.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2015 07:02 am
@Setanta,
FBM probably just ran out of memes.
FBM
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2015 07:08 am
@Leadfoot,
Leadfoot wrote:

FBM probably just ran out of memes.


Bored with your evasive, empty rhetoric is all. http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/bored.gif

But if you're hungry...


http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/11224775_1071160432916286_6599183514972276219_n.jpg
timur
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2015 07:09 am
http://i.imgur.com/Qtq3nAs.jpg
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2015 07:18 am
That last one really cracks me up.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2015 07:47 am
@FBM,
Good one! You were paying attention during my lecture on 'no evidence is intentional' theory.
FBM
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2015 08:19 am
@Leadfoot,
Nope. Sorry. Haven't been paying attention.
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FBM
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2015 06:52 pm
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/gr1.jpg

Quote:
The Negative Association between Religiousness and Children’s Altruism across the World
Jean Decetycorrespondenceemail, Jason M. Cowell, Kang Lee, Randa Mahasneh, Susan Malcolm-Smith, Bilge Selcuk, Xinyue Zhou


http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(15)01167-7

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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2015 06:54 pm
@Leadfoot,
Cleo knew Set was a great source of walks and snacks and ear rubs. Much better than any god anyone can imagine.
FBM
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2015 10:40 pm
Quote:
Keywords:
Religion;Fantasy;Impossibility;Testimony

Judgments About Fact and Fiction by Children From Religious and Nonreligious Backgrounds
Kathleen H. Corriveau1,*, Eva E. Chen2 andPaul L. Harris3
Article first published online: 3 JUL 2014

Abstract
In two studies, 5- and 6-year-old children were questioned about the status of the protagonist embedded in three different types of stories. In realistic stories that only included ordinary events, all children, irrespective of family background and schooling, claimed that the protagonist was a real person. In religious stories that included ordinarily impossible events brought about by divine intervention, claims about the status of the protagonist varied sharply with exposure to religion. Children who went to church or were enrolled in a parochial school, or both, judged the protagonist in religious stories to be a real person, whereas secular children with no such exposure to religion judged the protagonist in religious stories to be fictional. Children's upbringing was also related to their judgment about the protagonist in fantastical stories that included ordinarily impossible events whether brought about by magic (Study 1) or without reference to magic (Study 2). Secular children were more likely than religious children to judge the protagonist in such fantastical stories to be fictional. The results suggest that exposure to religious ideas has a powerful impact on children's differentiation between reality and fiction, not just for religious stories but also for fantastical stories.


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cogs.12138/abstract
layman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Nov, 2015 01:00 am
I was excommunicated from the Church when I was 9 years. Just because I took a big crap in the middle of the altar one day. Jeez, where's the Christian tolerance, I ask ya?

Since that day, I have felt a great loss. This is probably because my Mama used to give me a nickel to drop in the collection plate when it got passed around. I discovered early that once I dipped my little mitts into that plate, I could haul out a quarter or two for "change," ya know?

I long to go back. Does that mean I'm not an atheist?
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layman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Nov, 2015 01:52 am
@FBM,
According to this paper:

Quote:
Bering and Parker (2006) told 3- to 9-year olds about Princess Alice, who would help them in a guessing game even though she would remain invisible. Older children were especially likely to treat unexpected events—such as a light suddenly going out—as helpful communications from Princess Alice signaling that their guess was wrong. Thus, in all three studies, when an adult testified that an ordinarily impossible event had taken place, or would take place, children accepted that testimony and acted upon it.


So, even at age 9, children believe what adults lead them to believe, even if it's "impossible," eh? Not surprising, I suppose.

What about these 4-6 year olds in this study, who were asked to give reasons why they thought a religious character was real or not? How did they differ when giving "religious" reasons as justification for whether or not a religious character was either "real" or "pretend?"

Quote:
secular and religious children differed sharply in the way that they conceptualized their references to religion. Secular children produced them as a warrant for thinking of the story character as pretend. By contrast, religious children produced them as a warrant for thinking of the story character as real.


Hmm, so secular kids gave "religious reasons" for saying a character was "pretend," eh? And kids tend to believe what adults tell them? I wonder why "secular" kids would use "religion" as a basis for saying something was fake?
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Fri 6 Nov, 2015 06:16 am
@ehBeth,
Cleo! love the name.

But better than anyone can imagine? Possible reasons you might say that:
FBM is way better than I thought.
You have an unusually limited imagination.
A few people got left out of the poll.
Cleo is the only one you asked.


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layman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Nov, 2015 12:32 pm
@layman,
A few years back, I got into an argument with a homey about whose parrot was smarter. So I challenged him, on the spot, to a straight-up dual--parrot on parrot.

His parrot said "Cinderella;" mine said "Chomsky." Then his parrot said Goldilocks; mine said Dawkins. Then his parrot said Bush and mine said Obama!

My parrot only talked about REAL people, not fictions, and even when his did mention real people, it was stupid ones.

It was no contest. My parrot is obviously smarter!
layman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Nov, 2015 02:25 pm
@layman,
Quote:
So I challenged him, on the spot, to a straight-up dual--parrot on parrot.


My parrot told me I shoulda said "duel." After about an hour on the internet, looking up spellings, come to find out: he's right.

I told ya that bastard was smart, eh!?
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