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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
RABEL222
 
  2  
Sat 5 Sep, 2015 11:02 pm
@CalamityJane,
Quote:
I am perfectly happy to pay more taxes if it serves a greater purpose in the long run.

Unfortunately as long as we have a republican congress you will never see that. And I firmly believe that it will tale a democratic congress composed of at least 85% of democratic legislators to overcome the big money that runs this country.
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RABEL222
 
  4  
Sat 5 Sep, 2015 11:06 pm
@Lash,
So you equate anti-Semitism with being anti Isralie? Sure shows your thinking or lack of it.
RABEL222
 
  3  
Sat 5 Sep, 2015 11:22 pm
@Lash,
Do you mean billionares buying republican legislators and some democratic congressmen for the betterment of the 1%?
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 06:23 am

Clintons personally paid State Department staffer to maintain server

Rosalind S. Helderman and Carol D. Leonnig - WaPo
September 5 at 12:07 AM

<snip>

Hillary Rodham Clinton and her family personally paid a State Department staffer to maintain the private e-mail server she used while heading the agency, according to an official from Clinton’s presidential campaign.

The unusual arrangement helped Clinton retain personal control over the system that she used for her public and private duties and that has emerged as an issue for her campaign. But, according to the campaign official, it also ensured that taxpayer dollars were not spent on a private server that was shared by Clinton, her husband and their daughter as well as aides to the former president.

That State Department staffer, Bryan Pagliano, told a congressional committee this week that he would invoke his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination instead of testifying about the setup.

The private employment of Pagliano provides a new example of the ways that Clinton — who occupied a unique role as a Cabinet secretary who was also a former and potentially future presidential candidate — hired staff to work simultaneously for her in public and private capacities.

<snip>

More: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-personally-paid-state-department-staffer-to-maintain-server/2015/09/04/b13ab23e-530c-11e5-9812-92d5948a40f8_story.html
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snood
 
  4  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 06:24 am
@georgeob1,
So anyway george, why do you use the word "loonie" to describe Bernie?
bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 06:33 am
@RABEL222,
I wonder how Lash will process these:

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fheavenawaits.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F04%2Fanti-jews.jpg%3Fw%3D497&f=1

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nkusa.org%2Factivities%2Fdemonstrations%2F2006Nov9nyc%2F1-NW-New.jpg&f=1

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vosizneias.com%2Fassets%2Fuploads%2Fnews_photos%2Fthumbnails%2F700_fs1atbpslli5o2g2rvtggjg0ji1q3x1t.jpg&f=1
Lash
 
  -1  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 06:35 am
@bobsal u1553115,
1. This issue is decades old.
2. Would you find it odd for someone to ask a third party how you might respond to something instead of asking you?
bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 07:15 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Re: bobsal u1553115 (Post 6023775)
1. This issue is decades old.
2. Would you find it odd for someone to ask a third party how you might respond to something instead of asking you?


1.Right,
Quote:
And that doesn't begin to call you to account for your virulent anti-Semitism.
, and you brought it up. Anti Zionism is not the same as antisemitism. You accused rabel of antisemitism because of rabel's anti-Zionism. Rabel's no antisemite.

2.I wasn't asking you. I was asking rabel.

Now you're starting on me?????????

Are the Jews in the photos I posted antisemite?
Lash
 
  -2  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 07:26 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
You accused rabel of antisemitism because of rabel's anti-Zionism. Rabel's no antisemite.


Lots of assumptions happening here.

Incorrect. Since you've proven deficits in your mind-reading, I'd stop trying to use those powers if I were you.
Lash
 
  -1  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 07:30 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Would you find it odd for someone to ask a third party how you might respond to something instead of asking you?


You consider this statement "starting on you"? Please clarify your statement.
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izzythepush
 
  4  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 07:40 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Lots of assumptions happening here.


So now Bob's making assumptions. That keeps happening to you doesn't it?

I would say that someone as confused as you are about a very crude and basic Nazi propaganda poster, first supporting it, then asking if the claims it was making were true, has no chance of appreciating the nuances of some orthodox Jews' opposition to the state of Israel.
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georgeob1
 
  -2  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 09:48 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

So anyway george, why do you use the word "loonie" to describe Bernie?


Because I believe he is rather far out on the fringe of American politics. He's an inconsequential long-term politician, whose expressed beliefs about policics and economics are shopworn relics of another age that have all proven to deliver bad results wherever applied. Despite this he persists. He was OK as a Senator from Vermont - even the Senate needs some coimic relief. However the fact is he entered the Democrat primary race only as a convenience to Queen Hillary to give her an easy illusion of opposition. Unfortunately both the Democrat establishment ,which had been resigned to Hillary's inevitability, and the Clintons themselves, who are quite blind to their failings, were badly surprised by the growing weariness with Clinton style self-aggrandizement, and also by the relatively refreshing, authentic tone of Sander's rhetoric, which made him an attractive alternative to the tarnished Queen.

I think there are some more or less equivalent candidates on the Republican side as well. However, the field is large and competitive, and I believe a winnwe will emerge from it..
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georgeob1
 
  -1  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 10:45 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

georgeob1 wrote:

I believe the evidence suggests a widespread public dissatisfaction with things as they are

Maybe, but you have to wonder why. Six years of steady if unspectacular economic growth, two wars ended, none started, low oil and gasoline prices, unemployment 5.1% as of yesterday, considered full employment by the Fed, more Americans with health insurance than ever before. All of this is DRAMATICALLY better than the complete disaster that we faced in January of 2009 when the Democrats entered the White House. I meet people who think things are terrible but none of them can explain why.

Gosh ! You must be right ! In that case the crowned Democrat candidate must be sailing to an easy victory and signs of unanimous public support for the establishment candidate must abound while all competing voices are ignored.

Unfortunately none of that is the case now. Can you explain why???
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 02:15 pm
@Lash,
Whats with the insults? I've never called you anything. You accused rabel antisemitism because of her anti-Zionism. What speculation am I using to repeat it?

Do you agree: just because someones an anti-Zionist, it doesn't make them an antisemite?
hawkeye10
 
  2  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 02:37 pm
Quote:
When Hillary Rodham Clinton took the stage on Roosevelt Island to formally launch her presidential campaign, she hadn’t paid the permit fee to use island grounds.
While sources said the campaign applied for a permit from the Roosevelt Island Operating Corp. to use Southpoint Park on June 13, it never wrote a check.
Exclusive use of that park costs $10,000 per day, according to RIOC’s fee schedule. The Clinton camp owed $18,000, with the extra money presumably going to ancillary fees.
The permit language says payment must be made before the event takes place, according to a Roosevelt Island source.


http://nypost.com/2015/09/06/hillary-was-3-months-late-on-paying-roosevelt-island-for-rally/

That is another thing about this woman, last go it took her years to pay some of her people and suppliers, this go even though she has tons of money she was relying heavy on full time unpaid "interns", and she still has no interest in paying her bills on time. What is that, disrespect? More of " the rules do not apply to me?"
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 02:54 pm
@hawkeye10,
Its that arrogant "rules don't apply to me/ends justify the means" attitude which gets me, too.
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hawkeye10
 
  1  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 03:00 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
A former Hillary Clinton campaign fellow is accusing the Democratic front-runner of hypocrisy for relying on unpaid interns and fellows while publicly calling to for increased wages.

Carolyn Osorio writes in a new USA Today opinion piece that she joined the campaign as a fellow after Clinton announced her bid in April, adding that she had to move to Nevada and work there for free.

"I had hoped a trailblazer would be more willing to break the mold of indentured servitude that haunts my generation," she writes.

"Finding out that Hillary perpetuates the exploitation known as unpaid internships was like discovering that Santa wasn't real."

The Clinton campaign has flaunted its penny-pinching ways, letting a Washington Post journalist accompany campaign chairman John Podesta on a bus trip between New York and Washington.

But Osorio was surprised to see the "cheapness" extend to its staff.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/245941-former-unpaid-clinton-campaigner-pay-your-interns

She backtracked some on this after extensive media attention and one would think morale problems on her staff, but the fact that over and over again Hillary's words dont match with hillary's actions is a big problem.
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Lash
 
  -1  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 03:00 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
I looked high and low to find anything that could have been considered an insult to you and was unable to find one. Could you kindly show me what you considered an insult by me to you?

bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 03:16 pm
@Lash,
You didn't look hard enough. This is on this page about even or eight post up from this one:

"@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:

You accused rabel of antisemitism because of rabel's anti-Zionism. Rabel's no antisemite.



Lots of assumptions happening here.

Incorrect. Since you've proven deficits in your mind-reading, I'd stop trying to use those powers if I were you.
"

I can also point out four or five different times you called rabel an antisemite and worse.

I agree with you about a lot of things, but that was out of line.
Lash
 
  -3  
Sun 6 Sep, 2015 03:28 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
You made a comment that I'd insulted YOU.

This
Quote:

You accused rabel of antisemitism because of rabel's anti-Zionism. Rabel's no antisemite.


was written by you, not me. Therefore, it does not contain an insult by me against you. Unfortunately, this is evidence that you are dishonest and making intentionally misleading claims against me. How insulting. You have insulted me!



(Is this how this game goes? I know first you try to goad someone...then you feign insult. Not sure what's next.)

 

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