When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

I am trying not to speak to my desire - but she is rapidly falling - and Bern is rising. The trajectory can't be ignored.

I don't give a **** what you like or don't. I didn't mention you - I don't know you. You chose to take offense. Be my guest.

I've voted green before. I've voted Jackson.

My present key fear is re the Supremes.

I would voter for her and throw up, to affect the supremes.

No, no korkamann - you've got her all wrong. See, the nasty, ad hominem gratuitously insulting smarmy feces she slings is just her being passionate about her candidate. It's only people who disagree with her who have character issues or too thin skin. You get it now?

Yeah. Snood's never been rude or insulting on these pages. Just me.

Because no Obama supporter would ever stoop so low and humiliate his Savior.

er, vote

Yeah, she's not two-faced, hypocritical and nastier than hell, and she also doesn't have a persecution complex that she'll whip out like a nightstick to deflect any attempt to call her on her feces. It's all just good natured political sparring with her, trust me on this.

Trust me, Snood never skulked around here late at night while he was married, trying to get women to send him pics... Such a well-mannered sort - not given to sexist attack or outrageous baseless libel. His rage problems have never controlled his behavior here - and obviously, the dry drunk leftovers of his alcoholism hasn't affected his completely pleasant personality.

Not once.

Hi, snood. Saying what I think, a bit of wine.

I mostly like korkaman and all of her other names (I learned this from several others, but the attributes fit, each from very different people, and it makes no sense, same person re all the names, why the changing?) My instinct has been pro her, as her, but wondering.

No, I don't want to prove that, all private conversations, most of them not racist.

I am not Lash and I am not Korkamann, whatever I say for both of them.

I agree with that. I remain equally surprised by the continuing prominence of both Sen Sanders & Donald Trump in the respective primary contests. Clearly Sanders is the most exciting of Hillary's competitors in the contest among Democrats, and he is the only candidate among them presenting something relatively new. I expect that novelty and a weariness with conventional candidates is a likely factor in both cases. I think this common factor in these races tells us something important about the general attitudes of voters across the political spectrum - people appear to have a low regard for what they've been getting from their elected politicians in all branches of government.

Do you think the enthusiasm will last through the primaries?

Ok, now I'm against you, that is dirty ****, not at all true, partly true, or true.

Dirty ****, and nothing to do with Clinton.

Initially I was very sure that both Sanders and Trump would fade quickly - I was wrong on both counts.

Arguably fast growing disenchantment with Clinton (which appears to be a fact) could be propping up Sanders, but it is also undeniable that he has generated some real enthusiasan among Democrats, and Lash represents that pretty well. I suppose Trump is also getting some similar "recoil" support on the Republican side. However, in both cases I have concluded that my intuition may not be so good in the present circumstances. People across the political spectrum appear to be confounding conventional political thought (or at least my own).

I have a very hard time believing the Democrats would put forward an avowed socialist as their candidate, but stranger things have happened.

I earnestly hope that Trump fades and that the Republicans nominate another candidate, who turns out to be successful in the election. There are many choices out there, several I don't much like, but enough good possibilities for that to happen.

The Democrats don't have a lot of time to develop a non Sanders alternative to Hillary. While that lasts the need to prop her up and stay in the race will become ever stronger - a tough situation for them.

Dirty that he did it - or that I told he did it?
Interesting to see which one people think is worse.

I thought Biden might be a Clinton replacement...

Me too. However he appears to be hesitating.... Time is running short.

I can't figure out his strategy for commending Bernie at a soiree filled with old-time Hillary funders. Just another gaffe - or strategy?

I like the direction this thread is going. I am just a bit surprised that Frank hasn't chimed in yet. Is it still golf season?

I'd just as soon have death by a thousand paper cuts then to have HRC as President. She is bad for America and bad for the world. Shw has no desire to help anyone but herself and carpet bagging NYS so she could run for President 6 years ago still demonstrates how low she will stoop.

I'd just like to point out, once again, Hillary supporters now are simple clones of Bush supporters in 2004. Hope you can live with yourselves.

Well korkamann, what can I say? Now you have the whole picture. Probably 3 years ago, Lash read on a thread here that I was a recovering alcoholic (I'll celebrate 24 years sober this month). So she added "miserable dry-drunk" to her repertoire of personal invective for me that also included smears about my marriage, slights about my profession, and what she doesn't know, she just makes up. I don't know about you, but I don't believe someone who was really some kind of enlightened teacher of youth and civic-minded activist (as she tries to portray) goes to that kind of depth to try to cut someone you really don't even know.
I admit I try to give as good as I get. But she drew first blood.

Sorry for the tangent. I'll attempt to keep it out of the gutter for everyone else's sake. I actually am interested in the crazy political landscape that's taking shape.