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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
Lash
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 03:02 pm
@ehBeth,
Exactly. Business as usual is over.
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parados
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 03:05 pm
@ehBeth,
Except the delegates to the national convention will always be those active in a party. There is no rewrite that can change that because those that are pissed at the parties aren't going to show up at the party when the party makes it's selection.
ossobuco
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 03:09 pm
@parados,
Or maybe they will.

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Lash
 
  1  
Fri 4 Sep, 2015 03:16 pm
@parados,
You vastly underestimate the lengths Bernie supporters will go to. Watch the march on the mall in Oct for a clue. Those crowds are people who vote.
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Lash
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 03:41 pm
Hillary says she wasn't thinking when she got into the State Department. It was really busy.

That's ok. but we need someone who can think if they want to be leading the State Department. We REALLY need someone who can think if they're going to be president.

So, we do NOT need Hillary - the person who can't think - to be president.

That is all.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-sorry-email-controversy-n421851
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Lash
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 03:52 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/04/hillary-clinton-on-bernie-sanders-waving-your-arms-doesnt-mean-a-lot/

Looks pathetic.
korkamann
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 03:58 pm
@ehBeth,
Many of these endorsements make up the Electoral College which include Senators, Representatives. The number 538 is the sum of the nation's 435 Representatives, 100 Senators, and 3 electors given to the District of Columbia. A majority of electoral votes (270) wins the Presidency. It is from these political figures Clinton has gotten many endorsements already. Nothing is carved in stone however.
korkamann
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:05 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Nah. Still feel wonderful... I think YOU might have a problem.


You're damn right I have a problem with a poster referring to me as a Hillary-likcer aka as*Licker! I don't take kindly to spiteful posters like you; my stomach becomes queasy.
Lash
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:09 pm
@korkamann,
Listen, if you choose to create a bunch of personal drama around what I said - that's your business. Try Pepto.
ehBeth
 
  1  
Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:10 pm
@korkamann,
those endorsements just aren't a lot of voters when it comes to general time
georgeob1
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:11 pm
@Lash,


Agreed. This one looks even worse;
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2015/09/04/hillary-clinton-has-not-hit-bottom-yet/
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ehBeth
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:14 pm
@parados,
there are not several hundred thousand delegates at the convention

but there are several hundred thousand Sanders supporters showing up to hear him speak

what are those people going to do when faced with Ms. Clinton on the ballot? some will vote for her. some will choose not to vote. some will choose to take their vote elsewhere. one or more candidates may choose to run outside the major parties.

everything could settle down to same old same old over the next 6 - 8 months. or not.
korkamann
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:17 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

those endorsements just aren't a lot of voters when it comes to general time


All that is needed is 270 electoral votes to win. It is the electoral college that elect the president although someone else like Sanders might win the popular vote, but the electoral college supercedes the popular vote.
Lash
 
  1  
Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:20 pm
@ehBeth,
I clicked on Beth's post, but this is a general statement. MANY Bernie supporters are coming in from the cold solely for him - and either will not vote at all if he's not the nominee - or may vote Green or Libertarian in protest of the system.

Surely, some may vote for the Dem candidate, but in this election - you cannot count on a secondary Hillary vote in MANY cases. I have MANY GOP people who are stepping over party boundaries to vote against corruption.

This one cannot be analyzed by old mores.
ossobuco
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:22 pm
I'm not as anti Hillary as Lash, as in never voting for her if that is what I face, but I get Lash's view.

ehBeth
 
  2  
Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:24 pm
@Lash,
I think this is exactly what people raised on/stuck on party politics don't fully appreciate.
Lash
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:25 pm
@ossobuco,
I appreciate the understanding. I'd vote for Joe in the general if Bernie didn't win the primary. I'd never vote for HRC. I'd also never vote for any of the current GOP debutantes.
georgeob1
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:27 pm
Hard for me to believe that Hillary can recover: she's sinking fast and her efforts to contain the problem so far appear to be adding to it instead.

The so far continuing prominence of both Sanders and Trump continues to surprise me.
ehBeth
 
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Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:27 pm
@korkamann,
270 voters is meaningless in the general election

I think that's what people have to get their heads around. Being the party's candidate is meaningless if voters aren't party voters - and that's what people on the ground - like Lash - are seeing.

I'm seeing it at FB. Non-Democrats supporting Mr. Sanders.

__

again, I've got no dog in this vote. Not American - and don't like any of the old (by age) candidates on offer.
korkamann
 
  1  
Fri 4 Sep, 2015 04:28 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Listen, if you choose to create a bunch of personal drama around what I said - that's your business. Try Pepto.


It is not my desire to indulge in vicious responses with small-minded posters; just watch what you say when using a broad brush. Some of us don't care for your punitive tone of inflicting ad hominem attacks on Hillary's supporters.
 

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