When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

@giujohn,

I have better things to do with my time, you can lead a horse to water and all that.

As for Iran, its hostility towards America didn't occur in a vacuum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

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@giujohn,

Duh.. I never said you need both. I said you can't show that either A or B apply and you have not done so.

Pick the ones under the law that you think apply. They all do not need to apply but at least one does and the one that does has to meet the other requirements.

Picking writing as the object doesn't make the email under Clinton's control. In fact it makes it almost impossible for an email to be under her control since she didn't write them.

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@giujohn,

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That's not an indication that she didn't violate the statue that's merely an indication that he was not going to charge her with violating the statute.

Wow. Now you have descended to arguing that the US Constitution should just be ignored and everyone should be assumed guilty until proven innocent.

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Republicans are going to go around mulberry bush again with the same results for the same reason.

GOP preps tough perjury case against Clinton

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Proving that someone committed perjury means overcoming a high hurdle: that the person knowingly told a falsehood under oath.
Convincing lawyers at the Department of Justice to take the case would also be difficult because prosecutors would have to prove that what the former secretary of State said during the 11-hour hearing was directly at odds with the truth.

"There is no case," said Stephen Ryan, a former federal prosecutor and general counsel for the Democratic-run Senate Government Affairs Committee, bluntly.

"Even if you tried to step back from the politically-laden nature that this was the Democratic presidential nominee and you look at it, there's no way the Department of Justice would touch a case like that."

"There's just no appeal to this case, other than the political appeal," added Ryan, who said he is not involved in the presidential race.

Politically, hearings, letters and the other trappings of Washington could be useful for the GOP.

Polls have consistently shown that voters have doubts about Clinton's honesty and trustworthiness.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

You keep trying to inject your layman's understanding of the term. But actual professionals have come to a different conclusion.

It's kinda like when people say to me "the Internet is down." No, "the Internet" is not down. A website might be unavailable, or your DNS server might be unreachable, or your local point of presence might have a power outage, or your wireless adapter might be turned off.... but "the Internet" is not down.

But for most people, it doesn't really matter. What matters is that they can't check their E-mail or watch cat videos, so to them, "the Internet is down."

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@giujohn,

giujohn wrote:

Truth be told the only one I've expressed hostility towards is Izzy

Truth is clearly an alien concept. On A2K alone you've been hostile towards Cobbler and Rabel 22, and this is what you said about Bobsal

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You cant help being inappropriate...your parents were probably brother and sisiter! ( it would explain a lot in your case)

http://able2know.org/topic/261678-1

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@blatham,

Quote blatham:

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The appointment of Bannon [as Trump's campaign manager] points to two possible strategies - Trump going full bore on the path that is killing him in a general or, as quite a few people suppose, Trump and Bannon and others setting up the groundwork for a media enterprise post election loss.

Bannon looks to be a true believer of the "alt-right", WND sort deeply into what Richard Hofstadter described in The Paranoid Style in American Politics http://bit.ly/HxVYJZ What this suggests is that the next two and a half months will be as ugly as anything we've seen in prior elections and that after Clinton wins, the GOP and conservatism in the US will face an internal disruption more severe than what happened in '64...........

........Outside of an asteroid hitting the planet or some such, Hillary is going to win the election and likely by a very significant margin. But once she does, this new and much more extreme right is going to be as destructive to civic order and effective governance as we've seen over the last eight years. Or worse. Likely worse.

I'm not sure at all that Trump is out of this race. The latest polls show that, despite the growing evidence that Trump is Putin's puppet, he's settling in about 6 points behind Hillary with 2½ months to go-by no means an insurmountable lead. Since Trump seems to get most of his political positions from Bannon's Breitbart.com outside of Breitbart's anti-Semitism, (Ivanka married a Jewish guy, the publisher of the The New York Sun, and has converted), this could just be a decision by Trump to say, "Damn the Presidential looking, full slime ahead!".

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@izzythepush,

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You cant help being inappropriate...your parents were probably brother and sisiter! ( it would explain a lot in your case

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Disgusting and perhaps should have been reported.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

Duh.. I never said you need both. I said you can't show that either A or B apply and you have not done so.

Pick the ones under the law that you think apply. They all do not need to apply but at least one does and the one that does has to meet the other requirements.

Picking writing as the object doesn't make the email under Clinton's control. In fact it makes it almost impossible for an email to be under her control since she didn't write them.

Oh of course you did and now you're just trying to weasel out of it.

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@parados,

I am free to assume anyones guilt you see I'm not violating the Constitution because I'm not the government... seems as though you need a better understanding of what the Constitution is for.

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@Blickers,

True, on my news reading this morning ran across this:

Red alert, Democrats. Donald Trump might be poised to make a comeback

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

giujohn wrote:
Truth be told the only one I've expressed hostility towards is Izzy

Truth is clearly an alien concept. On A2K alone you've been hostile towards Cobbler and Rabel 22, and this is what you said about Bobsal

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You cant help being inappropriate...your parents were probably brother and sisiter! ( it would explain a lot in your case)

http://able2know.org/topic/261678-1

Well you know one man's truth is another man's hostility.. And So It Goes

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@giujohn,

Then feel free to post a link to where I said it.

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@giujohn,

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I am free to assume anyones guilt you see I'm not violating the Constitution because I'm not the government.

And the government has told you that your opinion is full of **** and has no basis in facts.

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@giujohn,

Nonsense. You lie, you make stuff up and you ignore facts. Truth is an absolute, people don't have their own truths, they have opinions.

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@revelette2,

Maybe it was, there's no consistency at A2K. Sometimes you can get suspended for a very tiny infraction, at other times you can get away with anything.

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@izzythepush,

Perhaps, I hope he was for at least a little while.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

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I am free to assume anyones guilt you see I'm not violating the Constitution because I'm not the government.

And the government has told you that your opinion is full of **** and has no basis in facts.

No the government was quite clear with the facts... And everyone agrees that the law was violated... They just decided to give her a pass. You can dress that Pig up and try to sell it as prime rib but in the end you're still going to get bacon.

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@izzythepush,

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http://able2know.org/topic/261678-1

That was a fun thread. goooey is the most self forgiving person I've ever heard about.

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@revelette2,

Quote revellette:

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True, on my news reading this morning ran across this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/08/18/red-alert-democrats-donald-trump-might-be-poised-to-make-a-comeback/?utm_term=.9505b9bbe4d4
Red alert, Democrats. Donald Trump might be poised to make a comeback

Very good article, and here's another thought to consider. Many Democrats take comfort in the large lead in Electoral States that Hillary is enjoying in the polls. The idea being that the popular vote does not matter, it is the Electoral vote that matters and Hillary is way ahead. After the 2000 election, I went back and researched all the presidential elections back into the 1800s where the candidate with the most popular votes lost out in the Electoral College. I found out that in all five cases, the popular vote winner and Electoral College loser had less than a 2% advantage in the popular vote.

You see these big Electoral College victories, and you forget that it only takes one vote in a state to give the whole state's Electoral vote to a candidate. With an average of 11 Electoral votes per state, one person's vote can make a shift of 22 Electoral votes. So if one candidate wins 4 or 5 states by slim margins, they can rack up seemingly impressive Electoral College victories.

If Trump gets just a little more popular generally than he is now, Hillary's slim victory in several states can become Trump's slim victories.

Bottom line, Trump is not out of this by a longshot. He's bringing in Breitbart.com's editor Bannon to slime the crap out of Hillary with right wing accusations and seeing if it works. It just might.

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