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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 04:56 pm
@blatham,
A competition with the Great Wall of China.
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georgeob1
 
  2  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 04:56 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

And that's why they keep doing it and will continue doing it. This isn't about governance, it is about power.


Why do you suppose Hillary is running so hard?
blatham
 
  2  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 04:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Hasn't it be proven that something that's false repeated often can be perceived to be true?

I'm sure there's sociological research on this and that conclusion would surely match my experience but I can't speak to any such research.
georgeob1
 
  2  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 04:58 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Hope of what?


I can't speak for them, but I suspect it is for something different from what we have seen for the last decade.
snood
 
  3  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 04:58 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
with Trump at least there's hope, however small.


Hope of what?


Interested in seeing an answer to that.
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:00 pm
@blatham,
I just picked of many studies.
http://theweek.com/articles/578533/insanely-persuasive-power-repeated-lies
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blatham
 
  3  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:01 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Why do you suppose Hillary is running so hard?

The quest for high office, by anyone, reveals a quest for power. But that wasn't the point. One can seek to attain a powerful position through all sorts of means but where those means involve the degrading of civic trust, the obstruction of governance (to ensure the opponent cannot achieve goals that demonstrate that governance can help citizens), the use of misinformation, etc then the nature of the quest itself reveals the person(s) involved unworthy for power.
snood
 
  3  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:02 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Hasn't it be proven that something that's false repeated often can be perceived to be true?

There's a saying "A lie can make it halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on."
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Lash
 
  1  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:03 pm
@georgeob1,
A meaningful departure from the dirty, irresponsible status quo.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:04 pm
@blatham,
I think this Huff Post is a good indicator of what people think about Trump and Clinton.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bad-ratings_us_5731d2a6e4b0bc9cb047e596
blatham
 
  3  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:05 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
I can't speak for them, but I suspect it is for something different from what we have seen for the last decade.

Cool. Fascism or some robust copy of the thing would surely be different. Having an individual like Trump who countless smart and educated Republicans deem totally unfit for the office would be different.
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blatham
 
  2  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:07 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Thanks ci.
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nimh
 
  5  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:10 pm
@Lash,
Do you think there's "at least hope, however small" of that with Donald Trump?
Setanta
 
  1  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:15 pm
@georgeob1,
Caucusing with the Democrats (most of the time) did not make him a Democrat. In our system, he was free to run in the primaries as a Democrat, which he did, and he lost. I am gratified to see that he appears to be pointing this out to his supporters I suspect that many of them had never identified themselves as Democrats before this year.
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Lash
 
  0  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:16 pm
@nimh,
I think sometimes you have to break something to build it better. Democrats use and excuse people during election cycles.

They won't use a large contingent of voters this election cycle.

They will answer to the people.
blatham
 
  7  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:21 pm
to all nutso lefty dipshits...

Quote:
"Absolutely I'd vote for Hillary in swing state. If you abstain..you're giving a vote for the GOP."

That's Noam Chomsky
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Setanta
 
  0  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:23 pm
OIC . . . Lash is voting down my posts again.
snood
 
  2  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:30 pm
@Setanta,
How can you tell who votes your posts down?
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blatham
 
  5  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:37 pm
Quote:
Donald Trump on Monday attributed the Democratic National Committee hack that led to the ouster of its chair to “one of our many, many ‘friends’” in Russia or China.
http://bit.ly/2am06OB
Only he can keep America safe.
revelette2
 
  3  
Mon 25 Jul, 2016 05:45 pm
@blatham,
I was wondering if anyone has caught that little slip amid all the ruckus going on with the Berners burning up the DNC.
 

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