When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

Personally I am so tried of this email thing it ain't even funny. Comey said she didn't know when she did it she broke the law so her actions do not warrant an indictment. She used a personal server which was legal at the time she used it to communicate with those in her state department. She did not take any classified information and give it to unauthorized persons or anything similar to that. If she did that, then she is indeed unqualified for President and deserved to be indicted, but she did not.

There are more important issues to be discussed such as the Democrat Platform and issues going on now such as the protest of the killings of more black men and the killing of the police officers. We need to hear from Hillary on these issues and as far as I know she has gone silent. She needs to ignore the whole email issue and talk about issue which matter to the our lives.

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@revelette2,

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She needs to ignore the whole email issue and talk about issue which matter to the our lives.

She can't ignore the email issue. It is more evidence that she lacks integrity. She already has huge problems when people are asked in polls if she is "honest and trustworthy". This story hurts her (and she brought it upon herself). This is one of the reasons that she has the second worst approval ratings of any major party candidacy ever (second only to Trump).

If Hillary weren't running against Trump, this issue could very well sink her candidacy.

I hope she wins... or rather I hope Trump loses. But stop pretending that Hillary Clinton is a good candidate. She isn't.

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@revelette2,

Personally, I'm so sick and tired of American citizens making excuses for corrupt politicians like fools.

Why would anyone continue to try to cover for someone as dirty as Hillary and Bill Clinton???

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Clinton to speak in Cincinnati at NAACP Convention

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Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton will speak July 18 at the 107th annual NAACP Convention hosted this year in Cincinnati at the Duke Energy Center.

Clinton will be speaking to the civil rights organization following the deaths of two unarmed African-American men at the hands of police and the fatal shooting of five police officers in Dallas, and in the middle of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, where Donald Trump will likely secure the party's nomination.

“In these violent and horrifying times, when a new generation is waking to call for police accountability, economic and educational equality and protecting the right to vote for all people, this election marks a significant moral moment for America,” said NAACP President and CEO Cornell William Brooks. “We look forward to hearing Secretary Clinton’s priorities and plan to advance our issues of social justice.”

The last time Cincinnati hosted the NAACP Convention was during the 2008 presidential campaign of Barack Obama, who has been tapped Clinton to be his successor. The city also hosted the convention in 1946 and 1970.

“In every presidential election, we invite each of the candidates to address our convention, and we are delighted to have Secretary Clinton join us,” said NAACP Chairman Roslyn M. Brock. “Secretary Clinton will have the opportunity to address a gathering of dedicated activists and advocates from across the nation, and we are proud to offer a chance for the candidates to speak about the major issues affecting civil rights today.”

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

There are more important issues to be discussed such as the Democrat Platform and issues going on now such as the protest of the killings of more black men and the killing of the police officers. We need to hear from Hillary on these issues and as far as I know she has gone silent. She needs to ignore the whole email issue and talk about issue which matter to the our lives.

There are indeed many importnnt issues out there. But what good would be done by Hillary's 'talking about them'. One can't believe anything she says. Platitudes and lies constitute most of it.

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"Politics is no longer left vs right; it's truth vs propaganda."
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@maxdancona,

Quote Max:

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She can't ignore the email issue.

Wanna bet? Republicans have a genius for finding cooked-up "issues" which they percolate for a time in the Right Wing Noise Machine, (talk radio, Fox News, various websites, etc) and then serve to the public. The public stays interested for a short while and then tires of the convoluted intricacies and "scandal" and how little any of this is connected to their lives in general. And so we move onto the next "scandal" the righties percolate, and then the next, etc etc.

Nobody's gonna care about this crap in a couple of weeks, let alone Election Day.

After which, Republicans will holler and scream on the media and social networks that America has lost its sense of morality, because nobody cared about the Emails.

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@Blickers,

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Wanna bet? Republicans have a genius for finding cooked-up "issues" which they percolate for a time in the Right Wing Noise Machine, (talk radio, Fox News, various websites, etc) and then serve to the public. The public stays interested for a short while and then tires of the intricacies and "scandal" and how little any of this is connected to their lives in general. And so we move onto the next "scandal" the righties percolate, and then the next, etc etc.

Nobody's gonna care about this crap in a couple of weeks, let alone Election Day.

Sure. I will take this bet.

Today is July 11. In a couple of weeks it will be July 25. I bet that on July 25 the email server is still an issue.

And I can tell you that Hillary's integrity is also an issue to all but the most partisan Hillary supporters. Look at the polls if you don't believe me.

She is not a good candidate.

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@Blickers,

I think Blickers has given us a good snapshot of the contempt the so called progressive elite holds for the people and voters they claim to serve. i.e. the dummies care only about what affects them directly; they have a very short attention span; and they don't mind if their "leaders" lie to them.

In several respects Blickers' voice is one of the more strident on this thread. With that in mind, I find it odd that she so frequently characterizes the statements of those who have a different view from hers as "hollering and screaming"

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@Blickers,

I hope you are right, in my opinion, this is such a non issues it angers me the extent of mileage those who do or say anything when it comes to the Clinton's are getting out of it. Unfortunately, while Comey did say she didn't knowingly break any laws, he phrased the whole announcement in such a way it is taking a hit. Undeservedly so in my opinion, but there it is.

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@revelette2,

What exactly were the flaws in his phraseology that you find defective?

Perhaps he simply isn't sufficiently as proficient a liar as are his superiors. For example, Attorney General Lynch who so blandly told us she and Bill Clinton were talking about the grandkids on her closely guarded aircraft in a "spontaneous" meeting at the airport, and that she "would accept" whatever recommendation the FBI (and her attorneys) gave her. The hastily arrenged weekend three hour interview (which Hillary had prerviously refused) quickly followed along with Comey's awkwardly phrased "recommendation".

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@revelette2,

There was plenty of coverage in the past year of Mr. Comey's intent to take down Mrs. Clinton.

He couldn't find anything he could do legally so did what he could by way of his announcement. I don't think anyone was particularly surprised that he did what he could (carefully smear Mrs. Clinton without losing his job).

It will be interesting to see if anyone cares once the election campaigning and swiftboating reaches the general public.

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semi-sidenote: just looked at FB photos from the large, extended Mexican / American family from Kentucky I an friends with. They just went to Iowa for the Quincenara of one of the family's daughters. I had no idea there was a large and growing Latino population in Iowa. I'm curious about the effect of that on the voting dynamics of that odd little state. The Kentucky side of the family is very anti-Trump because of his casual racism.

Hopefully, the Democrats remember their focus has to be on developing relevant candidates downballot so they will have a good candidate to replace Mrs. Clinton in a few years.

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@ehBeth,

That's an interesting, but perhaps a bit contrived, interpretation of events. What do you suppose were Comey's motivations? The fact is he has a pretty good record as a loyal Democrat.

I don't recall any media reports of Comey's intent to "get" Clinton. Rather there were many expressions of hope that the FBI would act independently and that there might be some leaks from it if there was no indictment. That's not the same thing as claims that anyone knew his intent or motives.

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@georgeob1,

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For example, Attorney General Lynch who so blandly told us she and Bill Clinton were talking about the grandkids on her closely guarded aircraft in a "spontaneous" meeting at the airport, and that she "would accept" whatever recommendation the FBI (and her attorneys) gave her. The hastily arrenged weekend three hour interview (which Hillary had prerviously refused) quickly followed along with Comey's awkwardly phrased "recommendation".

So what are you hinting at? Care to spell out what you think happened when Lynch and Bill met and talked about grandkids and golf, then Hillary's three hour interview followed by Comey's announcement he does not recommend indictment? Do you think some kind of threat and/or pressure was involved initated by Bill Clinton with Hillary using the interview to further threaten Comey and then he meekly toed the line while saying she was careless which damages her credibility as a candidate?

Since it turns out no one has hacked into her email server and people have hacked into the state department, and it turns very few actual emails were classified at the time she sent or received them and of those views they were marked in error or marked confusedly, she wasn't all that careless and she didn't do anything different than other Secretary of State which means she did nothing wrong that she knew of. She was busy woman as is evidenced by her very emails quantity, she had been all over the globe, it was probably was more convenient to use her own email server and heck of lot of more secure.

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@Lash,

Because the alternative is SO MUCH worse.

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@revelette2,

I'm not sure what all this hullabaloo is all about. The FBI already said there will not be any charges. They came to that conclusion after their investigation.

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I think we hear Comey clearly stating that there are measured, appropriate legal responses to Clinton's behavior re national security, and the proposed bill to strip her of security clearance is one of them.

It is the least restrictive appropriate response to her behavior.

I want to read the transcript of her special pleadings to the FBI to see just what argument she used to duck responsibility for her actions.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/286803-senate-bill-would-revoke-clintons-security-clearances

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@maporsche,

If we continue to support the lesser of two evils, next cycle Satan is running against Stalin's propped up corpse.

Let's refuse to do it ever again.

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@ehBeth,

I think it is automatic for most established democrats to vote down ballot for democrats in presidential elections. The problem is midterm elections, for some reason, we don't show up and then moan about republicans taking more seats in the house and taking over the senate and getting conservative governorships.

They are quite a few Mexicans who live where I live as well. They work the hard jobs, chicken farms and the like. However, lately, more poor white have been joining them, so that is good in a way but bad because we need them to work in jobs which pay over top so to speak to encourage better wages and conditions.

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@Lash,

No.

Again, NO candidate is perfect and there will ALWAYS be a lesser of two evils.

SOMEONE has to watch my kids at daycare, I'm going to pick the best options I have available.

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