When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

Forgive if I don't take your word. The officials said, thus far, they have scant evidence she intended to break classification rules.

Ooh! Ooh! I can answer that one!

They will putz around with accusations, insinuations and conspiracy theories about Benghazi, emails, payments for speeches and anything else they can even remotely smear Clinton with FOREVER, or until she or all her accusers are dead, or until Clinton is no longer in the public eye.

An indictment is highly unlikely because there is no evidence of a law being broken. Then it would require that Clinton was the one that broke the law.

The law is such that Clinton will not be indicted unless we suddenly find out she was stuffing top secret documents in her pant suit. She can't be indicted for receiving emails that were not classified at the time she received them.

You ever get the weird, deja-vu feeling that you've had to explain this before (a couple dozen times)?

The most sensitive information seldom is emailed, its discouraged. There is a number of phones designed, protected and encrypted for officials to use if there is a need to share information with other senior executives. The most likely way to communicate is in person or by documents that are hand delivered and given to executives who must read it in the presence of the messenger and then returned immediately. Some things just can't be stored online or in an executives desk. Think of Fort Knox, then think about sensitive material, there is a very strict protocol that is followed. Even much less sensitive time sensitive material is never stored in a recipients office, they are collected and returned.

I hear you. The key thing with the emails seems to be that some of them were made classified retroactively, and they're trying to hold Hillary responsible for transmitting classified emails that weren't classified at the time.

For the love of god, this is all so predictable. Really, it is. Within a day or two of the right wing apoplexy regarding Benghazi, I wrote (elsewhere) that it wasn't about the four dead contractors nor even about Obama. It was all about Hillary, who they knew was surely to be the candidate. It is how the right has rolled since Nixon.

The email story is the thinnest thread conservatives are hanging on now because it is all they have. It is the only hope left. If there's no indictment (which is about 90% probable, or more) they are fucked. They now have a party representative who is a complete disaster such that even top Republicans are speaking about their own guy in negative terms the like of which has no precedent in US politics.

This party, this movement needs to be crushed in the manner that looks increasingly likely to happen. They've become insane. Just read Limbaugh today... http://bit.ly/1trWCAT

And it couldn't happen to a more honorable, more noble conglomeration of people.

Yet I'm terribly anxious about the future for the US. Trump is a ******* maniac and he is where he is because the activist conservative base put him there. The same folks, pretty much, who thought Palin was fit for the VP slot. More than fit. A beacon of unique and sparkling wisdom. Unless they all have a simultaneous aneurysm, they will remain a significant part of the future equation. And all the folks and entities that drove them to such extremity, like Limbaugh, are making thousands of millions of dollars playing that game. And the Koch boys with the huge organization under them will continue, unless something really unhappy comes about, to manipulate red state politics and probably the House. I really don't know how this gets to a good ending.

How? Time. The whiter and less educated you are, the more you vote Republican, and the country is getting less white and more educated all the time. Soooo.........

Damn Rev., your taking all the fun out of the, Hillery is going to be the first elected president to do government business from jail, narrative. Get with it!

Two new polls out, from CBS and Bloomberg. They show Hillary in the lead by 7 points and 12 points, respectively.

Even if the FBI does pursue an indictment against her, the way things are going it looks like she would win anyway. Seriously.

You are entitled to all the slavish credulity you may want. You don't need my approval or forgiveness,

What officials? Classification rules are not the issue here. Complying with government policy and mandates for official e mail; safeguarding national security information; and compliance with laws involving freedom of information(FOIA) requests are the issues here.

Julian Assange by way of Guccifer 2.0 says Hillary, DWS, and MSM outlets colluded to spin positive and avoid negatives ("investigating the server," mayhap??) toward the coronation of Lady Clinton.

Some **** shall hit.


http://www.inquisitr.com/3209612/guccifer-2-0-documents-allegedly-reveal-dnc-collusion-with-clinton-mainstream-media/

I can't believe you are stooping so low as to get your news from such an unreliable source as someone claiming to be the Russian government hacker who hacked into the DNC database to get information on Trump. So when all kinds of stories from unreliable sources start coming out, we are supposed to believe it because....what? They say so? The documents could even be forged, it is ridiculous you are taking this stuff seriously. These Russians trolls are paid to do this crap.

Sometimes I think someone has stolen your username and is pretending to be you. In any case, I won't be here all day. So talk to ya'll later.

I understand the demographic change underway. But such a change, in the US, is very unlikely to proceed without a lot of ugly. That is no small part of the problem I'm pointing to.

"Depending on your perspective, this has always been Trump’s immediate political threat or promise—that he might strip bare the pretense that high-minded, philosophical conservatism, rather than ethno-nationalist grievances, are what drives Republican politics. His dumbfounding response to the massacre in Orlando exemplified his potential to break the GOP, but it was only the latest indication.

Trump has convinced the vast majority of Republican voters to fall in line behind him, and thus behind a political persona and policy agenda that are orthogonal to the party establishment’s conception of itself. He has the power; they are stuck with him; but it is an exceedingly poor fit, and the relationship between the two seems fatally unstable." http://bit.ly/1W1sQOB

So a politician and heads of a political party decided together on how to spin a particular story?

Fetch me my fainting couch.

I doubt that Limbach has made as much as have the Clintons out of a variant of the same game.

Do you see everything. from your vantage point in British Columbia. through the same lens of conservative conspiracy in the USA? Doesn't it get a bit tiresome after so long? You sound a bit like Cato the elder with your repeated demands for the destructrion of your imagined conspiracy.

The country is highly polarized right now and I believe both sides have foolishly contributed more or less equally to that outcome, though I doubt you will agree.

Life and even politics ( indeed human nature itself) are far more complex than it appears you consider in your theology. As I consider the tradeoffs between a chronic liar and crook, who is nevertheless fairly competent and, based on her self-interest, fairly predictable, and the alternative, a boastful but apparently shallow fast talker seeking power -- I find myself even considering a vote for Hillary.

I believe that both Sanders and Trump have tapped into a deep and widespread frustration with the economic sclerosis attending the increasingly bureaucratic and intrusive state that is evolving here. Their remedies are, of course, different, but both are flawed. ( However, after the lamentable history of the 20th century, and with the ongoing collapse of the economy and social fabric of Venezuela as a backdrop, I find the apparent appeal of Bernie's shopworn socialism quite amazing.) Trump would be far better in that area ( if one can believe some of what he says).

I also find the apparent proclivity for some here to assign this underlying disquiet to the neuroses of 'dumb, uneducated white guys', to be (in any order) stupid, hypocritical and condescending. Indeed it is a bit.... Trump like in it's bombastic inanity. However it is a reminder that this disorder is fairly widespread across the political spectrum.

The DNC edged out a candidate during primary season. Corruption. Maybe you missed the larger story: THE MEDIA LIED AND SUPPRESSED FACTS FOR A POLITICAL CANDIDATE. People don't do that kind of thing for free. People have been suspecting the media and the Clintons of collusion for decades. Looks like Assange will finally be leaking the smoking gun.

Her complicit president and all her horses and all her men won't be able to put her together again. That whole dirty Clinton Machine may finally sink into the sea.