When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

Haha. I think her style is about to change.

Any two of those words describing a candidate makes getting elected in America tougher than normal.

You just used all 3 to describe Sanders. If that EVER becomes the overall impression of him in the general election, he will literally lose every single state except Vermont.

Hell, a socialist atheist may just be enough to make that happen.


From Gallup last year:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/183713/socialist-presidential-candidates-least-appealing.aspx



Socialist and Atheist are the two most unappealing characteristics in a candidate.


Please stop calling him an atheist if you have any desire to see him elected. In fact, stop calling him a socialist too. While that may appeal to the far left, you're going to see him running from that label in the general if he wins the primary (I give him a 5% shot at that).

I've read that Sanders has now better polls for the general election than Hillary, that he could beat Trump by a larger margin than she. In spite of being a socialist, an atheist and a Jew, he sudenly seems more electable than she is. That says a lot on his appeal, her not being very good at bonding with people, and the electorate appetite for change.

He doesn't speak of God in that interview, he speaks of humanism. He states that he is not into organized religion, and then moves out of the question and into humanism -- the fact that our destinies are inter-related. I'm pretty certain he does not believe in any traditional god. Whether he can afford to say so to a journalist is another matter.

He's a secular Jew. So what?

That has been my take.

I well know all the distaste for Jews in general, Muslims in general, atheists in general, people who parse the word socialism as not actually meaning communist.. that happens in the US.
Maybe some of that is changing.

Not in time, this time, but interesting goings on nonetheless.

There's still a tiny sliver of hope, until the NY primary. If he loses, it's already a litle miracle that guy went so far.

Also I wish some of those photos wouldn't show him with red lips. I don't like that in some photography, a personal gripe - that shows up with children sometimes too, nothing to do with the lips but the photo color going on. Unless it's on purpose, but I sort of doubt that.

Watch: Young Turks Reveals How the DNC and 33 States Used Loopholes to Funnel Millions Into the 'Hillary Victory Fund'
$26 million went into the Clinton campaign before a single vote was cast.
By Alexandra Rosenmann / AlterNet
April 5, 2016




According to Counterpunch and Cenk Uygur, the host of Young Turks, the DNC and different states' Democaratic parties have long been funneling money into Hillary Clinton’s campaign, otherwise known as "laundering by the millions." Counterpunch explains:

In August 2015, at the Democratic Party convention in Minneapolis, 33 democratic state parties made deals with the Hillary Clinton campaign and a joint fundraising entity called the Hillary Victory Fund. The deal allowed many of her core billionaire and inner circle individual donors to run the maximum amounts of money allowed through those state parties to the Hillary Victory Fund in New York and the DNC in Washington.

No one had cast a single vote yet in the Democratic primary. “Not only had we not decided who the Democratic nominee was in August of 2015, we still haven’t decided,” Cenk Uygur pointed out on Monday. “But back then, the DNC already made their decision.”
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The DNC was so positive Hillary was going to be the nominee that it began a process of actively funneling money to her campaign. At the same time, it convinced 33 Democratic state parties to go along with the plan. Counterpunch states:

The idea was to increase how much one could personally donate to Hillary by taking advantage of the Supreme Court ruling 2014, McCutcheon v FEC, that knocked down a cap on aggregate limits as to how much a donor could give to a federal campaign in a year. It thus eliminated the ceiling on amounts spent by a single donor to a presidential candidate.

“McCutcheon was a terrible decision," Uygur explained, adding that, "it put Citizens United on steroids, and said, ‘you can give even more money as long as you give it to the party, and then in this case they figured, ‘I got it, there’s still caps on how much an individual can give to Hillary Clinton directly but what if we funnel it through the party. And we funnel it through the state democratic parties.' Bingo."

Using this system to arm the party against Republicans in a general election makes it slighly more understandable, Uygur opined. But shouldn't voters in the Democratic Party at least have a say?

"With this scheme, the Hillary Victory Fund raised over $26 million for the Clinton campaign by the end of 2015. [And] not only did Hillary’s multi-millionaire and billionaire supporters get to bypass individual campaign donation limits to state parties by using several state parties apparatus, but the Clinton campaign got the added bonus of buying that state’s superdelegates with the promise of contributions to that Democratic organization’s re-election fund," Counterpunch concluded, eliminating any doubt as to where the DNC stands.

Watch the Young Turks segment:

Or maybe he just has red lips? Why does it matter?

Young Turks have been hitting Hillary hard for a while now, hardly unbiased. I would need more sources before I trusted anything they said which is why I thumbed it down. But I suppose ya'll have to get started on your conspiracy theories.

Meanwhile, I am keeping 538 open to see the result for tonight's primary. Polls don't close until 9 though.

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Is This the Bernie Effect? Hillary Advocates for $15 Minimum Wage With Gov. Cuomo in New York

Cuomo stands with Hillary and speaks Bernie's message.

By Alexandra Rosenmann / AlterNet
April 4, 2016

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton attended a rally today with New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo at New York City's Javits Center in celebration of the statewide $15 minimum wage increase. Clinton represented New York State in the U.S. Senate from 2001 to 2009 and currently lives in Chappaqua, New York. Members of several labor organization along with the Working Families Party were in attendance. Gov. Cuomo addressed the crowd by denouncing Trump and reiterating Bernie Sanders' message about economic justice. “This new economy is not a fair economy for working people," Cuomo said.

Although Cuomo is a Clinton supporter, the message was more in line with the Sanders campaign. Until recently, Clinton has only supported a minimum pay rise to $12 per hour as opposed to Sanders' $15. One Twitter user pointed out the irony.
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"The top 1% has gone up 138%," Gov. Cuomo told the crowd. "We're investing $1 million in college affordability. We're investing in paid family leave and to restore fairness and decency, we’re going to raise the minumum wage to $15 an hour."

He also discussed the temptation to use anger for political gain and to divide people, as Trump has. "Some voices out there want to do just that," Cuomo said, "to turn us against each other. They’re taking that fear and saying our differences are the problem. If you think that’s how to make America great again, then I say you didn’t know what made Americans great in the first place."

Hillary Clinton noted that today is the 48th anniversary of the death of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

King "knew that any movement for justice had to include economic justice," Clinton told the crowd. "It's important to point out that there are people that don't believe the minimum wage should be raised."

As a student, Bernie Sanders, along with thousands of others, participated in MLK's March on Washington, which Clinton cited in her speech.



"The economy doesn’t work for any of us until it works for all of us. New Yorkers do the right thing every time and they did on this bill," Cuomo announced, quoting Sanders advocate Spike Lee.

The governor also used the event to emphasize his support for Hillary Clinton. "I had the great pleasure of working in the Clinton administration for eight years. She can make America great for all Americans, " Cuomo said.

New York votes on April 19. Clinton has been endorsed by New York officials such as Gov. Cuomo, Mayor Bill de Blasio and New York City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito.

Watch: Hillary Clinton and Andrew Cuomo sounding a lot like Bernie Sanders: [youtube][/youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao9gMCJbb2g

Alexandra Rosenmann is an AlterNet associate editor. Follow her @alexpreditor.

Exit Polling: Bernie Sanders Winning Wisconsin In a Landslide (55% to 42%)

Democratic exit polls:

25% very liberal, 43% somewhat, 27% moderate, 5% conservative

56% Sanders most inspires hope for future, 41% Hillary

55% Hillary most likely to beat Trump, 42% Sanders ....................................................................................................................................................................................... GOP exit polls from Wisconsin:

46% college, 54% no college

38% white evangelical, 62% not

56% want candidate with most votes to be nominee, even if not 1,237 (42% don't)

31% very conservative, 43% somewhat conservative

Its on the tube right NOW!!!

Why do very red lips matter on a presidential aspirant? They make him look girly or theatrical. And, no, he doesn't have very red lips.

I never noticed the color of his lips and usually I notice lips as I lip read. Usually his lips are kind of either grimaced or opened kind of wide.

I didn't save the link, but they were dark bright red on the last photo I saw.

I take it as a photo artifact, but I don't like it.

Perhaps he should darken his lips next time he gets in front of cameras. Perhaps they are not red but a tint enough to affect the cameras. I really know less than nothing about photography and forgive me, but I think it is sort of trivial. I doubt many people have noticed the color of his lips.

(from 538)

I dont like liars and Bernie is a liar. I continue to ask how Bernie is going to get all the crap he is preposing through congress and the only answer I have received from any of the Bernie people is the people will demand it. Just as they have been demanding the republican congress men do their job since 2009? How has that worked out for the people?

As you said it yourself, he would not be electable if he was going around chanting he does not believe in the god of the bible. So you would prefer an unelectable atheist president to an electable one.

Some nitpickers!