When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

no.

A long time ago I stopped posting expecting to change the mind of super-opinionated posters, and instead decided to direct my post to those others reading the thread. Many of their posts are made just to put an accusation out in cyberland and hoping it will stick.

I just put out the facts and let the readers decide who's being factual and who is driven by agenda.

I've posted links to this in the past. Interesting work.

I think, oliver, you are missing the point when Hillary supporters talk about Bernie supporters. (we are not talking Lash, she is sort in a class by herself) The point is that no matter what remarks Hillary supporters say in regards to Bernie Sanders, in the end, should he be nominee, they will vote for him. I believe Snood has said he will vote for him in the primary. It is the supporters who drive most of the more heated comments from Hillary supporters rather than Bernie himself. On the other hand, a good of the Bernie supporters have said they will not vote for Hillary if she wins. That non vote will in effect negate all Bernie stands for because in the end it will mean a vote for a republican and their party's platform of tax cuts for the rich and all the rest of stuff like that. Most Hillary supporters just quickly grew tired of hate which was and is directed Hillary as though she is the devil in the disguise of a democrat and that Bernie is perfect without an unethical political bone in body. It is tiresome to say the least.

Now enough of this imo.

Today is the Wisconsin vote. Bernie will win. The polls show not by enough votes to make a difference in the way the delegates would be portioned out to each candidate. The thing to watch for tonight is to see whether he wins by a landslide. He might as Hillary has already given up on Wisconsin and has went on to heavily campaign in New York where she has a sizeable lead.

I think, religion works the same way.

According to fivethirtyeight.com, Sanders needs to win at least 48 delegates to stay on target to get more pledged delegates. That's approximately 56% of the vote, but with the way delegates are awarded, he might need more or less of a % to get that delegate number.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/democrats/

Anything less than 48 delgates or 56% of the vote is a loss.

Really? So who do you support then?

Oh you mean the US senate is not majoritarily socialist? That comes as a surprise to none.

I don't like either of the options available to American Democrats.

If I were an American voter, I would likely* vote in the Presidential general for whichever Democrat is selected by primary voters. Downticket, I would vote for whichever individual candidate suits my preferences best. Often Democrat, occasionally Green if that made strategic sense.

___


*the likely disclaimer relates to jurisdiction. In some states, it is meaningless to vote for a Democrat so I would vote for the Green candidate simply to push the number. I might still campaign / leaflet etc on behalf of a Democratic candidate but vote Green.

I like ehbeth, but she's not an American citizen. American who vote don't really care what your (Olivier) opinion is, because you claim you live in France. I'm not sure I really believe that to be true, but if you are a French citizen your preference is simply a notion that won't be taken seriously. At least not by American citizens. I think it's mildly interesting to see who you throw your support to, but bottom line, its piffle. I do understand that everybody has their druthers, but frankly, what French citizens (sic) want in the American political campaigns is about 40 levels below the last thing I would consider before voting.

I like Sanders a lot. To me he is the true continuation of Obama, in more forceful and combative.

I actually envy the capacity of the US to rejuvenate their politics once in a while with such refreshing odd-ball presidential candidates. I'm fascinated by Bernie, by the audacity and strength of his challenge to the status quo. He could make a great president, the first American socialist, Jewish, and atheist fuckin' president. That would ROCK big time. Give the American people a chance to redefine who they are as a nation. By the people for the people and all that. Sanders is the opportunity of a lifetime to break or weaken the shackles of the US democracy, eg the lobbies, AIPAC included. It's now or never.

I certainly agree with that statement.

Um....what?

On Sunday night, Sen. Bernie Sanders said onstage in a Democratic debate, “I am very proud of being Jewish. Being Jewish is so much of what I am.”

Hahaha....

From a Rolling Stone interview.

RS: Do you believe in God?
BS: Yeah, I do. I do.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/bernie-sanders-political-revolution-20151118#ixzz44ylNrkWo

If he WERE an atheist, he'd have a lot more support from me.

It would also make his chance of winning the election essentially zero. Can you imagine how much that would energize the Republicans?

It's been my impression, from something I read somewhere, now getting to be a while ago, that he wasn't much into religion. How much not much? I don't remember and didn't save a link.

I've noticed this is a fact. Hillary is being fitted for a jumpsuit- and A2K's response is to avoid with thumbs.

LOL.

No wonder you're confused. You keep misreading that. Pantsuit... it's a pantsuit.

That's fine and preferred over someone like Cruz, but it's far different than him being an "out" atheist.

I would have a strong desire for a true, and honest, atheist president. Sanders may be an atheist, but he's not being honest about it. Straight up said he believes in god.