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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 21 Jan, 2016 10:10 pm
@blatham,
I must be blessed! LOL And I'm an atheist.
blatham
 
  1  
Thu 21 Jan, 2016 10:13 pm
And in the "Well, of frigging course they have" category, we've got a winner!
Quote:
Fox News has devoted roughly three hours to promoting the release of Michael Bay's 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi
http://mm4a.org/1NondRu

What did you think? They were a news organization?
blatham
 
  1  
Thu 21 Jan, 2016 10:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Yeah, ci. It's not necessarily a coherent theology, all things considered.
coldjoint
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 10:14 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
What did you think? They were a news organization?


Did you ask that when CNBC hosted the Republican debate?
glitterbag
 
  1  
Thu 21 Jan, 2016 10:43 pm
@coldjoint,
Try to keep up.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 21 Jan, 2016 10:47 pm
@blatham,
I was thinking, though, that all my siblings are christians, and they all pray for me. That must be it!
roger
 
  2  
Thu 21 Jan, 2016 10:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
It's probably cheaper than sending you money.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 21 Jan, 2016 10:51 pm
@roger,
Never thought of that before now, but ......
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glitterbag
 
  1  
Thu 21 Jan, 2016 11:25 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
What did you think? They were a news organization?


Did you ask that when CNBC hosted the Republican debate?


oh, don't be silly.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Thu 21 Jan, 2016 11:33 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
oh, don't be silly.


Again, I bow to the expert.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Thu 21 Jan, 2016 11:42 pm
@coldjoint,
You're not very smart are you? I like that in a man (nods to Kathleen Turner)

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Lash
 
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Fri 22 Jan, 2016 03:07 am
The Times does a much more thorough fleshing of the impact of Hillary's role in her 1990-era attacks on the women her husband assaulted.

A persistent and spreading crack in her armour seems to make her not viable as a candidate.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/us/politics/90s-scandals-threaten-to-erode-hillary-clintons-strength-with-women.html?_r=0&referer=http://lm.facebook.com/lsr.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2016%2F01%2F21%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2F90s-scandals-threaten-to-erode-hillary-clintons-strength-with-women.html&ext=1453453093&hash=Acl2k_Daw3CYDF8ubU8sPStKOL_P98iopsOx9dB_g42yzQ&_rdr
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Lash
 
  1  
Fri 22 Jan, 2016 04:07 am
Finally, the right questions are being asked and answered. With a 73 year old Socialist Jew who is still just introducing himself to the country, what is the devastating problem with the ultra-financed, super name recognition, highly experienced former-frontrunner who is cratering...again?

What's wrong with her?

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/01/21/panic-grips-clinton-campaign-real-question-whats-wrong-hillary

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blatham
 
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Fri 22 Jan, 2016 05:23 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
oh, don't be silly.

I think it was two posts from this dude and I found it necessary to reach for a can of Florient Ignore User scent.
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blatham
 
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Fri 22 Jan, 2016 05:29 am
@roger,
Quote:
Re: cicerone imposter (Post 6112050)
It's probably cheaper than sending you money.


I too have never sent ci any money. And thus a bond forms between myself and ci's prayerful kin.
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blatham
 
  1  
Fri 22 Jan, 2016 05:39 am
Oh yea we got trouble
right here in River City
and that starts with "T"
and that rhymes with "C"
and...damn we're fucked

Quote:
Donald Trump or Ted Cruz? Republicans Argue Over Who Is Greater Threat
http://nyti.ms/1KuiTA6
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blatham
 
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Fri 22 Jan, 2016 06:02 am
This is such an interesting internecine war being waged.
Quote:
But some establishment-aligned figures, while acknowledging their disdain for Mr. Cruz, said the case against him was not merely personal. They argue that Mr. Trump has the potential to bring out new voters, who may also vote for Republicans lower on the ballot. They predict that Mr. Cruz would draw support in only a handful of states and would reorient the party around a hard-line conservatism.

“Trump won’t do long-lasting damage to the G.O.P. coalition,” said John Feehery, a Capitol Hill aide turned lobbyist. “Cruz will.”


Bush senior and junior could be, and were, relegated to the "he wasn't really a true conservative" dung heap. So, of course, were McCain and then Romney. Super easy to do the same with Trump, of course. But Cruz? Not at all so easy given that he is running flat out as a 'true conservative' and is accepted by most of the base as exactly that.

If he becomes the face of true conservatism and then fails big in the general, that could wreak considerable havoc on movement conservative self-certainties. They'll play victim as they always do, of course, but it could be really damaging.

Either one, though, losing big looks certain to do extensive damage to the GOP brand, which is a different thing. And that's what this dilemma looks to be all about.
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blatham
 
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Fri 22 Jan, 2016 06:15 am
ps... the National Review campaign to massacree Trump is really worth reading http://bit.ly/23iR5KB
What will be interesting now to watch is the response from talk radio and Fox. Not to mention, the response from Trump.
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blatham
 
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Fri 22 Jan, 2016 06:24 am
And then we get this reporting from Robert Costa (formerly senior editor at National Review) and two others...

Quote:
GOP establishment warms to Trump — and remains cool toward Cruz
http://wapo.st/23iS65j

Quote:
“With Trump, hey, it’s just a deal,” said Alex Castellanos, a longtime Republican strategist. “The primary’s one deal, that’s done. If he were to be the nominee, the next deal’s a general [election]. You can see him saying, ‘We had to do what we had to do to win the primary, but now’s the general, and we’ve got to beat Hillary.’ You can see him pivot on a dime.

“But with Cruz, oof, you’re looking at a Republican Party that wouldn’t win the vote of a young person, a young woman or a minority for a generation,” Castellanos said.


Like I said, hell of an interesting war going on here.
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blatham
 
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Fri 22 Jan, 2016 06:55 am
Here's a thought on the 3rd party split thing.

First of all, this present conflagration on the right is complicated. Not least because so much of what is going on is purposefully secret. And much else is purposefully misrepresented. All this makes it difficult to sort out what's really going on (and there's lots going on because a lot of different interests are involved).

Here's a bit of an aside, but a damned important aside. One of Julian Assange's key insights is that existing power bases isolate or concentrate in nodes of inter-linked entities which maintain their positions of power through secretive communication lines. Take, for example, the ADM scandal where the group of corporations producing lysine conspired to hold prices high so as to increase each corporation's profits. Nobody knew anything about this until a whistle-blower entered the scene. Those internal communications were revealed and this blew that particular node of power into smithereens. That's why Assange set to a goal of maximal transparency and the mass revealing of the internal communications of existing power entities.

Anyway, we can't see a lot of what's going on because it is very purposefully secretive.

So here's the thesis re third party split. Its already here. But it is being pretended that something else is the situation. That split I'm proposing isn't Trump going rogue. It is the existing power arrangements around the GOP are being seriously threatened by the power arrangements built and being built by, mainly, the Koch/Bircher/post-Goldwater segments in America.

I'm not sure this is the correct way to think about this stuff, but there's something in here that fits puzzle pieces together.
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