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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
georgeob1
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 06:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
In what way is it "catching up? Check the DOE web site for actual production figures.
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 06:46 pm
@georgeob1,
Here's the 'catching up' article. http://www.worldwatch.org/wind-solar-generation-capacity-catching-nuclear-power
Quote:
and n recent years, renewable energy has attracted far greater investments than nuclear power. According to estimates by the International Energy Agency (IEA), nuclear investments averaged US$8 billion per year between 2000 and 2013, compared with $37 billion for solar PV and $43 billion for wind. Individual countries, of course, set diverging priorities, but nowhere did nuclear have a major role in power generation investments.
georgeob1
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 07:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
There were six new nuclear plants in the U.S. at various stages in a fairly lengthy licensing process at the time of the Fkushima accident. All were for the construction of new plants at the sites of excisting ones by experience operators All but one has since been cancelled. I'm confident that has happened in other parts of the world as well, particularly Europe. China and other countries are still building them. However you are correct in terms of new construction trends.

In terms of existing capacity and production in this country and many others Nuclear power capacity and output dwarfs wind and solar power and does so at about one-third the cost per KW-HR delivered. Without government subsidies and government-mandated set asides for them, Wind and Solar power generation would quickly cease.
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 07:47 pm
@georgeob1,
Investments of $43 billion for wind is nothing to sneeze at.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 07:50 pm
@georgeob1,
Here's a good article on investments in wind energy. https://books.google.com/books?id=_czCAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=investments+of+$43+billion+for+wind+energy&source=bl&ots=fwse4R6mxL&sig=lLTpIUTbvnBnTQwZ6SOPUfQLud4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiRjqu3przKAhUD1WMKHZWcAysQ6AEIOTAF#v=onepage&q=investments%20of%20%2443%20billion%20for%20wind%20energy&f=false
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blatham
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 08:09 pm
@Blickers,
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Anyway, I believe the Tea Party actually started as a grass roots movement that wasn't particularly partisan, but then the conservative Republicans moved in and took it over.


Santelli did his thing in 2009. Here's a screenshot from a Koch operation from 2002. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/final-proof-the-tea-party_b_4136722.html

If you go back and look at what happened after Santelli did his thing and consider how quickly everything was up and running and consider the centrality of Freedom Works in organizing, directing and promoting events and groups (always describing it as "grassroots"), your notions of the history may change.

It is the case that some early tea party groups did protest the arrival of GOP reps at their doorstep. In one instance I recall, the local organizer complained that it seemed the reps wanted to take control. In another case, the organizer was told (he said) that the reps wanted to ensure no third party momentum was evolving. But note that the Koch crowd and the GOP are quite separate entities even if their goals sometimes align. Where they work together and where they conflict is often opaque. Purposefully.

glitterbag
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 08:21 pm
@blatham,
I know the conversation has shifted, but I think Sec. Clinton is determined to see this thru.
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 08:22 pm
@glitterbag,
I agree; she's never been a giver upper. She's always been a go-getter.
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blatham
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 08:27 pm
@glitterbag,
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I think Sec. Clinton is determined to see this thru.


Oh yes. That I do not doubt.
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blatham
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 08:42 pm
Here's a lady that scares the hell out of me.
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Liz Cheney, the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney, will announce a bid for Wyoming's only House seat, Morning Consult is reporting.
http://bit.ly/1PlXS1V
She is as bad as her father, which is saying something. Modern sorta-democratic states have a lot of barriers to prevent those who, in other circumstances, would easily fall to a serious fascism from doing so. But the personality type remains present and dangerous nonetheless. And Dick's tenure demonstrates that rather clearly.

I had a google news alert on Liz for a long time. When her earlier attempt to gain a senate seat turned into the explosive mess it became and she dropped out of that race and effectively dropped out of sight, I closed off that google alert. Several months ago, I got wind of this new move and set up a new alert.

She's smart, savvy, very quick on her feet and very smooth. Those are good characteristics in a normal or good-hearted person. But she's not those things. She's an authoritarian personality in spades, like her father. And she's very ambitious. She has been working as a partner in at least two of Bill Kristol's neoconservative operations (as her father was a key player in the Project for a new American Century). Dangerous lady. I don't use the term 'evil' often but I put this label on her.
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 08:54 pm
@blatham,
Liz Chaney even disowned her own sister.
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Liz Cheney Heartlessly Disowns Her Sister on National TV ...
www.motherjones.com/.../liz-mary-dick-cheney-gay-marria...
Mother Jones
Nov 18, 2013 - Even former Vice President Dick Cheney began to break GOP orthodoxy during the 2004 campaign. His acceptance can be attributed to his daughter Mary Cheney, a lesbian ..... A perfect god would have a perfect personality.
blatham
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 09:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,
There was a lot more ugliness in that bit of political history but the Mary spat was part of what blew up her attempt to gain Enzi's seat. Her mother, who is a perfect fit in that family, was another part. Mary was/is a conservative in many ways but she at least appears to be from planet Earth. The other three, god save us from any more of them.
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glitterbag
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 09:17 pm
@blatham,
Liz Cheney scares the hell out of me as well. She seems to believe in supreme authoritarianism, I don't need her to tell me what time it is.
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 09:23 pm
@glitterbag,
Or to get permission to go to the toilet.
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blatham
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 09:30 pm
National Review gets serious...
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For months, Republican leaders have worried about how to stop 2016 frontrunner Donald Trump. Now, one of the conservative movement’s most influential publications is taking matters into its own hands.

National Review is dedicating a special issue of its magazine, one week before the Iowa caucuses, to stopping Trump. “Against Trump,” blares the magazine cover. Inside, a blistering editorial questions Trump's commitment to conservatism, warning voters that backing him is tantamount to allowing the conservative movement to have “fallen in behind a huckster.”

"Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus within the GOP in favor of a free-floating populism with strong-man overtones,” the editorial reads.
And that’s just the start.
http://politi.co/1NojraL

coldjoint
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 09:53 pm
@blatham,
The National Review thinks even less about Killary. Seriously.

Quote:
It’s Hillary All the Way Down


Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/415386/its-hillary-all-way-down-jonah-goldberg
coldjoint
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 09:56 pm
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Whoopi Goldberg Threatens to Leave U.S. If Trump Wins


Wow, that's a hurter!
http://www.doomjunkie.com/images/smilies/party3.gif
http://downtrend.com/brian-carey/whoopi-goldberg-threatens-to-leave-u-s-if-trump-wins#.VqEiR8bU7u8.twitter
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glitterbag
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 09:58 pm
@coldjoint,
Hello folks, cold joint has just returned after a loooong absence. I suggest we not speculate why he was away, just wish him good luck in his recovery.
blatham
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 09:58 pm
Here's a smart point I really should have thought of...
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Why Evangelicals Heart Donald Trump

Beyond the politics of resentment is the Calvinist notion that the frontrunner’s wealth marks him as God’s anointed.
http://bit.ly/1Nok97H
The southern religious right community is awash with "prosperity gospel" theology. Example: the lady from whom Jane and I rented a house in the Dallas area rhetorically asked one of Jane's daughters (also an evangelical) why, given her godly life, she had failed to become rich. It would take a long while to type out the names of the southern preachers spouting this stuff. And then there are all the Amway species of creatures making a ton of money from the parishoners of those preachers' churches. The whole game is ugly as hell. When your preacher has a mansion and a private jet, you really ought to try a bit harder to reconcile this with camels squeezing through the eyes of needles. But as Rick Perlstein's work lays out, these sorts of scams run through through the American right wing and have for a long while http://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-long-con

But in any case, this mode of thought and this version of christian theology does have the precursor example with Calvin - wealth is a sign that God has graced you and therefore you are Godly if you got dough (and if you don't got dough, well....). Or at least, this was a set of notions derived by some from Calvin. Read this piece if you have interest in all this. It's very good.
coldjoint
 
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Thu 21 Jan, 2016 10:09 pm
@glitterbag,
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just wish him good luck in his recovery.


Don't need luck, I have the truth. And that is why I was gone. The truth about Islam is not wanted here.
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