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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
Blickers
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 05:43 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote edgarblythe:
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Stop the presses. Huffpost reports Hillary has vowed to release all information about UFOs, if she gets elected. Maybe send a task force to area 51. Wink

About time the Democrats stopped ceding the fringe to the Republicans. Now the GOP has the guys who think they've seceded from the Union, and the Democrats have the ET people.

Every vote counts.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 05:46 pm
@Thomas,
Now, that was funny!
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blatham
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 06:25 pm
I'm not sure how many of you might be familiar with Paul Waldman but he's worthy of your attention. You can find his writing at Greg Sargent's Plumline blog and at The American Prospect. Here's a sample...

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"I've yet to hear a Republican explain exactly why whatever Bill Clinton did means that his wife would be a bad president, particularly on issues of concern to women. She has a whole passel of issue positions and policy plans that are designed to be beneficial to women, on subjects like gender discrimination, family leave, and reproductive rights. I suppose they want people to believe that all those things are a lie, and upon taking the oath of office Clinton will shout, "Ha, I've fooled you all! I don't believe any of that pro-woman stuff! Now that I have the power, I'm going to govern like ... a Republican!"
http://bit.ly/1R8dzd8
McGentrix
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 08:43 pm
@blatham,
What's so hard to understand? Her husband admitted cheating on her multiple times. Yet there she is by his side.

Shows terrible judgement in her personal life. The only reason she stayed was for political points which just makes her useless as a human.

So, she has terrible personal judgement and will only stay with that which will make her rise above the chaff beneath her. Not really someone that should be President.
cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 09:46 pm
@McGentrix,
No individual is responsible for what anybody else does whether they are family or not. Is that so difficult to comprehend?
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Blickers
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 10:05 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote McGentrix:
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Her husband admitted cheating on her multiple times. Yet there she is by his side.

We have a divorce rate near 50% in this country. If every person left their spouse after they got caught cheating, the divorce rate would be near 90%. Give it up, nobody cares about Clinton's affairs. Not then, not now.

And since Hillary seems to be on the same page as her husband politically, her husband, among other good things, created 16 Million Full Time jobs in his two terms. His successor created less than 2 Million. I have no trouble at all hoping for another Clinton Presidency.
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edgarblythe
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 10:24 pm
She better keep a close watch on the interns, with him roaming free range.
Blickers
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 10:57 pm
@edgarblythe,
Very misunderstood man. Beneath it all, he's just a boy who can't say No.
Lash
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 11:13 pm
@Blickers,
With a penis that curves left at peak arousal and a cigar fetish, so the dossier says... 😜
snood
 
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Mon 4 Jan, 2016 11:14 pm
I wish I knew how all these folk who are so hard on Hillary for her actions during her husband's well-known extramarital messes would have handled it if they had been in her place. She was with this guy practically all her adult life - from her early 20's on. He was on the precipice of becoming president - something they had worked together for a long time, and they both undoubtedly believed he could do a lot of good in that office. He was a real skilled politician who could not keep it in his pants.

As the spouse of Bill Clinton, when the affairs came up, what would have been the right thing for her to do? Leave him? Is it possible she considered it, but thought that leaving him would have a huge negative affect on more people -on the country? Those of you who can't give the Clinton's even the possibility of having a good intention probably can't imagine it, but I think Hillary could have thought staying with Bill was the best choice for the greater good. Should she have made a public show of berating him or trying to humiliate him?

Her biggest mistake, I hear people saying, was defending him and calling the women liars. I understand people's disgust about that. But I can't understand how this makes her evil, or fatally flawed, or anything but human. It was a crappy hand she was dealt in a way. She loved and was decades into a relationship with a man who proved himself both a brilliant politician and a lecherous creep. She decided to stand by him and defend him and her marriage against all comers. How are you so sure that she could or should have done differently?
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Lash
 
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Tue 5 Jan, 2016 12:10 am
I found a liberal who hates Hillary much more than I do.

I demand a shrubbery in tribute.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24797758/ns/msnbc-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/t/clinton-you-invoked-political-nightmare/

He is totally bent.
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wmwcjr
 
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Tue 5 Jan, 2016 12:18 am
@Lash,
. . . and Republican Congressman Dennis Hastert, who was elevated to a high leadership position in the U.S. House of Representatives during the Monica Lewinski scandal, had previously engaged in a sexual relationship with a teenage boy at the school where he worked as a wrestling coach. (Not to mention the adulterous affairs of Republicans Robert Livingston and Newt Gingrich -- who, incidentally, was the Religious Right's choice for the Republican Presidential nomination in 2012!) And how many times has Rush Limbaugh been married?

By the way, I'm not being partisan here. I'm just tired of all the hypocritical posturing of politicians and their supporters in the media and elsewhere. I didn't even vote in the 1992 Presidential election, and I voted for the Dole-Kemp ticket in '96. Bob Dole Cool is a cool, principled guy with a great sense of humor. Despite the fact that I've never been (and never will be) a Republican, I've liked that guy for decades, and for good reason. Lately he's been dismayed with his party, and he says that Trump is "over the top" and that Cruz is "too extreme." Twisted Evil Drunk
Lash
 
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Tue 5 Jan, 2016 01:35 am
@wmwcjr,
I can't figure out the reason for your post. If Hastert or Gingrich were running for office, I'm sure we'd be regaled with their proclivities. Lovely pair, certainly.

What I can't believe is how nobody's shaking Trump's tree. I guess Bernie's too much of a decent guy to look under that rock, and Hillary's past is so full of every kind of possible scandal, she can't really criticize anybody without worrying they'll come back infinitely stronger against her.

So, lucky Republicans, huh.
Blickers
 
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Tue 5 Jan, 2016 02:54 am
@wmwcjr,
Funny thing is, there were people posting on this message board when Hastert was Speaker of the House saying that he had homosexual affairs with his high school students when he was a wrestling coach, and nobody was paying attention. The newspapers didn't pick up on it until years later, yet in some quarters it was known.

If posters on Able2Know knew this, surely the Republican leadership must have known, yet Hastert was still made second in line for the presidency. And this same party was screaming bloody blue murder over a consensual affair betwee Clinton and a 24 year old college graduate. Unbelievable.
wmwcjr
 
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Tue 5 Jan, 2016 03:01 am
@Lash,
You wrote:
I can't figure out the reason for your post.


I'll admit I was in an ornery mood. I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy that was rampant in the ML scandal. I wasn't defending the Clintons. I've never voted for the guy, but neither have I voted for any of the Bushes. By the way, at the height of the scandal, our older daughter (who was in junior high) once told me. "If you ever did what President Clinton has done, I'd never forgive you." Smile Of course, she was speaking hypothetically. She knew her Daddy treated her Mommy right.

My first reaction to Trump was one of amusement as he turned out to be the biggest clown in the bunch. But I no longer feel he's a laughing matter. In fact, he's scary. "Be afraid, be very afraid." I'm terribly afraid he could be elected President. We live in strange, disturbing times.
wmwcjr
 
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Tue 5 Jan, 2016 03:09 am
@Blickers,
The hypocrisy is sickening. One of Louisiana's Republican "family values" U.S. Senators once had a dalliance with a prostitute. Had something to do with diapers. Embarrassed Laughing But the voters didn't care! Oh, well, . . . Neutral

I stayed up way too late; so, I gotta go. Have a good day tomorrow! Smile
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blatham
 
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Tue 5 Jan, 2016 03:38 am
A lot of folks on the right are not quick learners, it seems.

When George W Bush left office, his approval rating was 22%. When Bill Clinton left office (after the lurid Starr Report and an impeachment attempt) his approval rating was 60%. Now, just imagine what those percentages would look like if right wing voters weren't included in the polling.

As I've noted earlier, it was entirely predictable that right wing media and agents would try again to use this same issue of Bill's sexual behavior in an attempt to denigrate Hillary. And because Republicans have a serious problem with women voters, this newer attempt would try to find some way to strike at her, as a woman, by using that sexual element. I've been writing about this for two years.

And folks on the right are now generally so locked into the closed universe of their own media system, they really don't have a clue about how this is going to fail them again. That will seem incomprehensible to them.

Lash
 
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Tue 5 Jan, 2016 06:24 am
@wmwcjr,
I feel the same way about Trump. You'd think somebody would have been able to take him down by now.
revelette2
 
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Tue 5 Jan, 2016 08:15 am
@Lash,
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I feel the same way about Trump. You'd think somebody would have been able to take him down by now.


In my opinion they can't take him down because he says outloud what a large portion of the republican party support and believe themselves.
cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 5 Jan, 2016 11:33 am
@revelette2,
That's the scary part; they have no sense of what America is supposed to be about, and have no concept about the US Constitution. They call themselves "American." Just proves fear and bigotry goes hand in hand.
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