When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

Well dear, I'm sad that you refuse to face the truth about this issue. (lol) I really think you are dodging answering because you also haven't happened upon a major character failing of Bernie. I mean, we both know he's human and he has to have some moderately-sized flaw, but although I've been wincing, waiting for that shoe to fall - I haven't seen anything yet. I don't think you have either.

If you ever change your mind, and decide to take me up on this conversation, let me elucidate what type of flaw I'm talking about:

Notice how I never criticize Hillary's appearance in any serious way, (I think I did have a go at pantsuits during the la
st election - but everyone else was doing that). Anyway, when people talk about her face or expressions, I feel it's sexist. She looks like what women her age are supposed to look like. I never call her a bitch because to me, that's a lame sexist attack, too.

The reason I bring this up is because people on this forum have actually alluded that Bernie is too old to be exciting for voters or that his old man finger-poking stump speech is boring. (!!!)

My criticisms of HRC center on her lies, lack of trustworthiness, her greed, the fact that she's sold out her influence for money to those who use it to assault this country, her flip-flopping for political gain,.. These things to me are fair game. She also planned with her husband to get in on the ground floor with the prison-for-profit industry, she supported DOMA, she is behind TPP... Satan couldn't be worse for the country. (Have you ever seen Satan and Hillary at the same time...?)

So anyway. These are serious faults to me that relate to how a person would use the office of president.

Yes, Bernie's gruff, he doesn't worry about his hair, I think he fathered a child without being married, he smacks down reporters when they veer into territory Bernie considers none of their business, he's Jewish, he's identifies as a Democratic Socialist, he disrespects Capitalism, he's soft on BLM.

These are the worst things I've heard said about him. I fully support every one of them.

If you know of a moderately severe character flaw that comes close to one of Hillary's, and it's factual, I will acknowledge it.

It seems to me the only reason you don't offer a substantive failing of the Bern is because you don't know one yet; however, I have enjoyed more than you can possibly know this period of having non-aggro dialogue with you, so if we stop here, fine. I guess I've thoroughly explained my opinion on the matter.

I roll my eyes because like the Holocaust, the Spector of Vietnam is so overused in debates it has lost it's meaning for that purpose.

On the other hand, I've no bright ideas of my own on how to fix all of this mishugas. That, I take it, is a yiddish word. I'm your average apostate, but I like that word.

Anyway, I think early decisions are very relevant.


I can hear sucking sounds.

On the other hand, I've no bright ideas of my own on how to fix all of this mishugas. That, I take it, is a yiddish word. I'm your average apostate, but I like that word.

To take one example: In September, Sheikh Abu Muhammad al-Adnani, the Islamic State’s chief spokesman, called on Muslims in Western countries such as France and Canada to find an infidel and “smash his head with a rock,” poison him, run him over with a car, or “destroy his crops.” To Western ears, the biblical-sounding punishments—the stoning and crop destruction—juxtaposed strangely with his more modern-sounding call to vehicular homicide. (As if to show that he could terrorize by imagery alone, Adnani also referred to Secretary of State John Kerry as an “uncircumcised geezer.”)

Schlemiel, schlimazel...

Don't call us dear, or I'll boil the soup. Why are using dear as some manipulative call?
I'm interested in politics, ok, but I hate manipulation.

On Hillary Clinton, that is a good part of why I can't stand her, as she shifts. But the shifts, we'll see.