When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

Figures. Most ultra conservatives think its OK to kill 6 and 7 year old school kids as long as their right to unfettered gun access is protected.

don't get distracted by the rabble....

Lash dear, it is abundantly clear to everyone but you that you could never acknowledge any weakness of Sanders. I don't find fault with him morally, I see weaknesses in him as a candidate. And no, I won't admit I don't see anything, and I also won't be sucked into a dead end debate with you because you won't admit he has any weaknesses.
That was already too many wasted words that bounced off of your crazy Bernie is god force field.

Are you suggesting the Bernie was Intelligently Designed?

Publicly, Hillary is in favor of changing the rules on campaign finance to prevent giant conglomerates from making our laws for us.

Privately, she plays by the same damn campaign finance rules as everyone else until those rules change, which means getting money where you can.

There's no real contradiction there. Opposing unilateral disarmament doesn't mean you love military build-ups.

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The real reason Bernie would fail in the general election isn't his self-described socialist stance. It's the fact he'd have no money to spend on getting elected.

I did not fabricate ANY part of my statement...let alone the entire statement. Hyperbole just causes you to start in a hole. Don't use it.



Whatever.

Some people perceived you to be laughably excessive on the right...and now are being hilariously excessive on the left.

It has little to do with Bernie Sanders or your feelings about all those things. I has to do with your general disposition. It is not a particularly mature one!



In a real sense, I am a Bernie Sanders supporter, Lash, and you do not speak for Bernie Sanders supporters. You speak for yourself. And I, for one, am not particularly interested in who an out-of-control person like you considers to be "people wrecking our country."




We?

Have you got a mouse in your pocket?

You are a loud-mouthed, up and down, left and right person with almost no maturity to your posts.

Care all you want. I "care" also.



I do care...but that does not mean I have to act and post like a maniac.

To me you sound like someone "pissed" at life...like someone dissatisfied with life and taking it out on the world.

But maybe I am being too harsh.

Let's see you bring stuff under control...and present your arguments with passion, but without the excess.

Can you do it?

Bush is a war criminal of the very worst kind. If you'd truly repented you'd be demanding he be tried in the Hague. That caring veneer of yours peels off damn quickly.

You could call this nitpicking...

SANDERS: Well, let’s understand that when we talk about Syria, you’re talking about a quagmire in a quagmire. You’re talking about groups of people trying to overthrow Assad, other groups of people fighting ISIS. You’re talking about people who are fighting ISIS using their guns to overthrow Assad, and vice versa. I’m the former chairman of the Senate Veterans Committee, and in that capacity I learned a very powerful lesson about the cost of war, and I will do everything that I can to make sure that the United States does not get involved in another quagmire like we did in Iraq, the worst foreign policy blunder in the history of this country. We should be putting together a coalition of Arab countries who should be leading the effort. We should be supportive, but I do not support American ground troops in Syria.

COOPER: On this issue of foreign policy, I want to go to...

CLINTON: ...Well, nobody does. Nobody does, Senator Sanders.



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Clinton Backs Decision to Send US Commandos Into Syria
Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

BY LISA LERER
ASSOCIATED PRESS

Oct 30, 7:07 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Hillary Rodham Clinton supports the decision by President Barack Obama to deploy a small number of special operations forces to northern Syria to work with local ground forces in the fight against Islamic State militants.

Campaign spokesman Nick Merrill said in a statement that Clinton "sees merit in the targeted use of special operations personnel." He added that Clinton also strongly "supports ongoing diplomatic efforts to end the conflict."

But, he said, she opposes the U.S. entering a larger ground war in the Middle East to combat the rise of Islamic militants.

As secretary of State, Clinton advocated for a more aggressive U.S. role in the Syrian conflict. Earlier this month, she called for a no-fly zone over the area, a move the administration opposes.

A war criminal in an administration filled with war criminals.

Almost everyone I know supports "fettered" gun access, including me. I want waiting periods and background checks at the point of sale to exclude anyone who has had a run-in with the law until that issue is investigated - also excluding anyone with a mental health diagnoses until that issue is investigated.

I approve financially devastating recourse against gun sellers who do not follow this practice.

Your tired ole wrong lie about unfettered access and killing children is nothing more than what most of your comments are: hyberbolic, outdated bullshit.

Well dear, I'm sad that you refuse to face the truth about this issue. (lol) I really think you are dodging answering because you also haven't happened upon a major character failing of Bernie. I mean, we both know he's human and he has to have some moderately-sized flaw, but although I've been wincing, waiting for that shoe to fall - I haven't seen anything yet. I don't think you have either.

If you ever change your mind, and decide to take me up on this conversation, let me elucidate what type of flaw I'm talking about:

Notice how I never criticize Hillary's appearance in any serious way, (I think I did have a go at pantsuits during the last election - but everyone else was doing that). Anyway, when people talk about her face or expressions, I feel it's sexist. She looks like what women her age are supposed to look like. I never call her a bitch because to me, that's a lame sexist attack, too.

The reason I bring this up is because people on this forum have actually alluded that Bernie is too old to be exciting for voters or that his old man finger-poking stump speech is boring. (!!!)

My criticisms of HRC center on her lies, lack of trustworthiness, her greed, the fact that she's sold out her influence for money to those who use it to assault this country, her flip-flopping for political gain,.. These things to me are fair game. She also planned with her husband to get in on the ground floor with the prison-for-profit industry, she supported DOMA, she is behind TPP... Satan couldn't be worse for the country. (Have you ever seen Satan and Hillary at the same time...?)

So anyway. These are serious faults to me that relate to how a person would use the office of president.

Yes, Bernie's gruff, he doesn't worry about his hair, I think he fathered a child without being married, he smacks down reporters when they veer into territory Bernie considers none of their business, he's Jewish, he's identifies as a Democratic Socialist, he disrespects Capitalism, he's soft on BLM.

These are the worst things I've heard said about him. I fully support every one of them.

If you know of a moderately severe character flaw that comes close to one of Hillary's, and it's factual, I will acknowledge it.

It seems to me the only reason you don't offer a substantive failing of the Bern is because you don't know one yet; however, I have enjoyed more than you can possibly know this period of having non-aggro dialogue with you, so if we stop here, fine. I guess I've thoroughly explained my opinion on the matter.

I agree we should not be willing to chase after every war, on the other hand, we should not run from every war either. The ISIS is not just a threat to the Arab countries, they are as big a threat to everyone including the US as AQ was if not more so. They seem to even lack any loyalty to other Muslims as well. I am not sure what their deal is.

Here is an informative article I will save on my computer to study later.

What ISIS Really Wants

There was no threat from IS until Bush invaded Iraq. You think going in with hobnail boots and shooting anyone you don't like the look of, like you did last time, will reduce the support of IS? Really?

If you want to choke off support, show a commitment to the rule of law and human rights. Close down Guantanamo and send Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Blair off to The Hague. That will do more to cut off IS' support than any amount of bombing people back to the stone age will. Remember how that went down in Vietnam?

Bernies have been working phones to inform other Bernies in NY that they have to register as Dems to vote for Bern. It's been a massive effort. It is crazy how far in advance you have to accomplish this switch. New York sucks.

I'm sure you know the kiss of death that accompanies third party runs. Bern didn't want to ensure a win for the opposition, so he did what any responsible dude would do.

Looks like Obama's sending in troops.

I agree concerning Iraq and closing down Gitmo (hopefully with a democratic congress and a democratic President we can finally get it closed.) However, it not a given that Iraq caused ISIS or it wouldn't have popped up regardless. Even if it did, we still have to deal with it. Moreover, I think you are inflating the level of involvement. I am not sure about the level of involvement myself as I have been wrapped up in the election threads and news to the extent I devote my time to this at all.

If you equate sending in commandos to advise Syria rebels then I suppose you are see it correctly.

In policy shift, U.S. will send commandos into Syria to advise rebels

That's how Vietnam started.

Not many though, less than 50 was what I heard.