When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

Which is going to be a huge problem when she needs every idealistic lefty young person she can find to cast a vote for her to fend off the revolution against the elite that is finding its champion in the R candidate. After being ignored by Obama and the D's after the youth put him in office in 08 are they going to get out the vote this time? Maybe, but I would not want to have any money on that bet.

unlikable
untrustworthy
war weary
cocooned elitist
horrible politician

This is the person who is going to put together a center left coalition to fend off the revolution from the little people who have the R candidate as their champion? And if they are good an R candidate who is backed by a coalition of little people and conservatives ?

To anyone but the loonies on the far left...

...Hillary Clinton is a progressive.

Huff Post has her rated behind only Jill Stein, the Green Party Candidate...and Bernie Sanders.

She is further left than any of the other Democratic candidates.

Just knowledge of his "work" legislating for Big Banking and Big Insurance alone would be pretty darn enlightening for most progressives.

She only recently agrees that gays should have the right to marry. She was pro-DOMA! She likes her blacks incarcerated but in line to vote for her. She is anti-planet, preferring to drill with abandon through protected land. She is on the take from Wall Street, Big Pharma, and every dirty SOB with plans to ransack our country.

She is no progressive, no matter what bullshit her people push.

The worst is probably that as a Senator from NY she was looked to for guidance on how Washington should regulate Wall Street, and she did nothing that I am aware of the prevent the calamity that Wall Street caused. She was not just one of 100 on this matter. So far as I am aware she was not even talking about Wall Street having problems till early 07, when the crash was already well underway.

O'Malley hits Clinton on death penalty, changing views.

'The United States "has no business" being on the list of countries that executes its citizens, even those convicted of brutal crimes, former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley said Thursday.

The Democratic presidential hopeful's remarks came the day after front-runner Hillary Clinton said she's against abolishing the death penalty because there are "certain egregious cases" where it could still be merited, according to the New York Times.

"It's very hard to have any sympathy for mass murderers, for people like the Boston bomber or any of these individuals," he said in a short interview after meeting with The Des Moines Register's editorial board. "But the principle is this: Capital punishment is not a deterrent. Capital punishment is, in fact, inconsistent with our principles as a nation."

O'Malley has been a critic of capital punishment on the campaign trail leading up the Iowa caucus, and abolished the death penalty in Maryland during his time as governor. He also commuted the death sentences of the four inmates on the state's death row at the time.

"Our children don't deserve to be complicitous in the taking of lives, even lives that have done really, really horrible things," he added.

Clinton at a New Hampshire breakfast Wednesday said that the death penalty is "flawed" and "too often applied in a discriminatory way."

"I think we have to take a hard look at it," she said.

O'Malley has recently ratcheted up his direct attacks on the former secretary of state. The former governor on Monday accused Clinton of changing "her position on virtually every defining issue in this race" on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

O'Malley on Thursday compared Clinton's stance on the death penalty to her position on other issues, including gay marriage. In 2006, Clinton supported letting individual states make decisions on gay marriage before announcing her own support in 2013, according to PolitiFact.

"Secretary Clinton seems to have a default position to state's rights on many things," he said. "She was very much one who said marriage equality was a state's rights thing, and now she's saying (the death penalty) is a state's rights thing. She has said immigration issues like driver's licenses for new American immigrants was a state's rights issue. I think the way that we forge consensus and the way we get things done and the way we solve problems is being very clear about our principles, and I think that leaders who are effective don't wait for the polls to tell you that it's safe."'

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/10/29/martin-omalley-hits-hillary-clinton-death-penalty-stance/74822452/

Wimp. A guy who still had his balls would have said I think the way that we forge consensus and the way we get things done and the way we solve problems is being very clear about our principles, and I think that leaders who are effective don't wait for the polls before telling America what they believe is the right way to go.

Except for the loonies on the far left...Hillary Clinton is a progressive.

Loonies per Frank Apisa: people who believe in equality, a voter-based form of democracy, and want to fight global warming. A climate denier, Frank, or you just don't give a **** about what's happening to the world?

It looks like Hillary suits you to a t. Both of you should just register where you belong - in the other party. The progressives are taking this one from you pretenders.

The loonies are not taking anything from anyone. They are a raging, angry, disordered mass...who will die out as fast as the Occupy movement.

You were far-right...now you are far-left. It really doesn't seem to matter to you which side you are on...so long as you are able to be an extremist...and to be able to add to the problems at hand rather than truly be a part of dealing with them.

Unless things change, it truly looks as if Hillary Clinton will be our next President unless Rubio wins. If the latter wins, the country will be going to the far right because he will have to keep his supporters happy which is no good for anyone professing to be a progressive. Likewise if Clinton wins, she will have to stay to the left to keep progressive happy. Party's are important for important reasons, mainly the Supreme Court appointments but also the direction of the agenda of congress and the White House. So even if she keeps changing her views or copying views of Sanders and other more leftist candidates, it is a good thing. This is the way I think when I am more rational. I can get irrational if I feel she is throwing Obama and his policies under the bus. I don't think she will too much anymore because she knows Obama and Biden won't keep silent about it.

You and I have had our ups and down Frank, but you never voted for more profits for Halliburton and more dead Iraqi children, unlike Lash.

As for global warming, Lash voted for that too.



http://www.dubyaspeak.com/energy

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio endorsed Clinton today. If Sanders couldn't get Blasio, I don't really think he has a chance in the endorsement race.

Hillary can afford lots of endorsements.

Preach it!

Lash, the supposed super liberal...certainly has her fan club in people like McG and Hawk!

Wonder why?

Same reason I support you and your golf game Frank.

But mostly because I cannot put into words how much I desire to see Hillary destroyed and sent from the graces of my political news.

I think I slightly know Lash, and I somewhat follow her thinking. As we all know, I agree Clinton is a mobile manipulator.

The difference is that I think she may land in the right place by mistake with new smiles.

I was never far-right.

In the opinion of several people who's opinions I trust and respect...

...you were.

Whether you were or not, however, your excessive, bombastic rhetoric certainly gave people the impression you were.