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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Tue 20 Oct, 2015 05:14 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Running to "all about Hawkeye" means your mind is blank.

Join us when you think of something to add.
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 20 Oct, 2015 07:02 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Running to "all about Hawkeye" means your mind is blank.

Join us when you think of something to add.


Stop flattering yourself.

And I did add something.

It was pertinent...although not earth-shattering.
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snood
 
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Tue 20 Oct, 2015 07:39 pm
Hillary haters and Bernie boosters will undoubtedly chalk the information in this article up to a media conspiracy or some other kind of shady deal. But the fact is, Hillary got a good bump from the debates. And the national polls (not the snap polls and internet focus groups) say that she won the debate. This doesn't fit the narrative that she's a weak, faulty, or wounded candidate so everyone won't like it. But facts is facts.

Hillary’s Debate Spoils: A Sizable Bump in the National Polls

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/20/hillary_clinton_won_the_debate_scientific_polls_show.html

The numbers back up the assessment that I (and many other analysts) offered immediately following last week’s debate: Hillary Clinton won. Sanders supporters, though, disagreed (um, let’s say) passionately. They pointed to a string of unscientific online polls conducted by Slate and other media outlets that showed their man as the runaway winner. More than a few Bernie fans used those results to suggest that any reporter who thought otherwise must be on the Clinton payroll. As I explained at the time, though, those informal surveys—which let passionate respondents vote more than once and benefit grassroots campaigns like Bernie’s—don’t tell us nearly as much as the surveys conducted by professional pollsters who take steps to find a representative sample of respondents.

The good news for Clinton, meanwhile, extends beyond her debate performance: The polls conducted in the wake of the last week’s showdown suggest that she’s now better positioned than she was heading into the event. The WaPo/ABC poll shows she has the support of 54 percent of Democratic voters—up 12 points from where she was in the same poll early last month.

hawkeye10
 
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Tue 20 Oct, 2015 10:26 pm
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Obama hasn't criticized Clinton publicly, including in his recent "60 Minutes" interview where he said Clinton didn't act like she had something to hide and didn’t endanger national security.

But Klein said his sources tell him Obama acts quite differently in private. His public words are intended to keep party unity and hide his blood feud with Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton.

Senior Adviser Valerie Jarrett is reportedly pushing for a thorough investigation against Clinton and a vigorous prosecution should anything be found, Klein says.

And Obama recently "threw a major fit" in the Oval Office when Clinton requested another meeting with him to talk about the investigation.

"He leaped up from his desk and threw a rubber ball that he often plays with across the room," Klein quoted a source. "He paced the floor, his voice was raised, and told his aides, including Jarrett, to make sure that 'any smidgen of wrongdoing' that is in the Hillary files is turned over to the authorities."

The source also told Klein that Obama said, "I never want to see her [Hillary's] face again. I never want her or Bill in this house lecturing me. They have no respect for this office or for me and I'm not taking it anymore. She has lied about everything."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/hillary-clinton-joe-biden-ed-klein-barack-obama/2015/10/20/id/697215/#ixzz3pAnHga9H

Now we see if Obama denies the story. I doubt it is true but the Clintons do have a habit of inspiring this kind of hate.
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Lash
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 04:49 am
@snood,
One of the reasons she didn't crash and burn was due to Bernie pulling her ass out of the fire re emails. If they pushed her on her many scandals, her results would have been quite different.

As I mentioned before the debate, all she had to do was seem human and not be found culpable for the Holocaust to come out seeming like a winner.

Now, the slog is on.
revelette2
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 06:30 am
@Lash,
Well, I for one was glad he did it so that at least questions of substance got raised rather than spending the whole time talking about the emails. The email situation is being adequately addressed by the means it is supposed to. Bernie seems to be a man of principle and he went with them, he probably wanted to debate about issues which matters to people's everyday lives rather than play politics. Not sure Hillary would have done the same if the position was reversed.

parados
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 08:23 am
@Lash,
Bernie looked strong by dismissing the emails as partisan politics. If he had attacked her over them, he would have aligned himself with the GOP on a non scandal and looked weak because he was willing to give up his principles for political gain.
georgeob1
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 08:49 am
@parados,
That depends on just what principles you have in mind. If they include obeying the law, setting the example and truthfulness while in a leadership position then you are clearly wrong. There is certainly a partisan element in the attacks on Hillary Clinton, just as theire is a partisan basis for the attempts to defend her behavior and deflect the blame for her actions. The only principle Bernie followed was loyal partisanship.

Poor Bernie, He's just a sock puppet designed to entertain and create the illusion that there is a democratic selection process in the Democrat primary contest. If she survives, Hillary will get the nomination.
coldjoint
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 10:34 am
@parados,
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on a non scandal


What is a scandal for Democrats? And what are principles? Looks like you don't know the meaning of either. http://www.doomjunkie.com/images/smilies/shill.jpeg
parados
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 11:00 am
@georgeob1,
The funny part about your statement george is that no one can point to a single law that Hillary broke with evidence that would stand up to examination. We see a lot of claims that about how Hillary is hiding evidence but that isn't evidence of any wrong doing since it is not evidence.
engineer
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 11:09 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

As I mentioned before the debate, all she had to do was seem human and not be found culpable for the Holocaust to come out seeming like a winner.

But the reason that bar is so low is that her opposition has spent a lot of time saying she is culpable for the Holocaust. When voters see she doesn't have horns like they were told, they've got to wonder about everything else they've heard.
parados
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 11:14 am
It looks like Biden has officially said he isn't running.
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 12:31 pm
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Why Benghazi Still Makes a Difference





Quote:
Libya was no backwater for Mrs. Clinton. It was one of President Obama’s highest foreign-policy priorities, touted by the administration as evidence of successfully “leading from behind,” averting a Gadhafi bloodbath through “humanitarian intervention,” and with democracy and stability to follow. So acknowledging that precisely the opposite was happening, and appropriately increasing security in Libya, would demonstrate failure. That was politically unacceptable.


Killary only covered up ensure a Democratic victory in the 2012 election. That alone tells me she had no loyalty to her duties or the American people.

Why would we want someone who puts themselves and their party above national security and American lives in the WH?

I will await the disingenuous reply.


http://www.wsj.com/article_email/why-benghazi-still-makes-a-difference-1445379145-lMyQjAxMTA1NDI4MTEyNzEyWj
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georgeob1
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 03:41 pm
@parados,
Apparently the FBI doesn't agree with you. What do you suppose they are investigating?
Lash
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 04:13 pm
@revelette2,
I'd bet an arm on it. (Nods)
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Lash
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 04:15 pm
@parados,
And his principles are one of his most dramatic contrasts from Hillary. It's a primary reason I support him.
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ehBeth
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 04:35 pm
@engineer,
engineer wrote:
When voters see she doesn't have horns like they were told, they've got to wonder about everything else they've heard.


that's pretty much how it worked out in the Canadian federal election this week. piles of attack ads on Trudeau. not ready, blah blah blah.

he showed up at the debates, did very well. nobody believed anything else in the attack ads. the liberals blew everyone out of the water in the election.
InfraBlue
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 04:44 pm
@ehBeth,
I would that we were a little bit more like Canada.
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InfraBlue
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 04:50 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

Apparently the FBI doesn't agree with you. What do you suppose they are investigating?

I don't mean to speak for parados, but I think that you two are speaking of different things.

One thing is the evidence that her critics say that she is hiding in regard to the Benghazi attack. Another thing is the FBI investigation into whether her use of private email for governmental purposes compromised the security of classified and sensitive communication.
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Lash
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 05:27 pm
@ehBeth,
Hoping the liberals can blow conservative Clinton out of the water, following Canada and Britain's leads.
 

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