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When will Hillary Clinton give up her candidacy ?

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Wed 21 Oct, 2015 05:43 pm
@hawkeye10,
When will you finally get it: the Hawkeye Show SUCKS???
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ehBeth
 
  1  
Wed 21 Oct, 2015 05:45 pm
@Lash,
The problem for you is that the equivalent of Sanders was also blown out of the water. The Clinton equivalent was the big winner.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Wed 21 Oct, 2015 05:48 pm
@coldjoint,
You need a way to get the "shill alert" up before your post. Thank you for wanting to warn us about your geschfincte posts, but just like your penis, its just a little short of satisfaction.
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Lash
 
  1  
Wed 21 Oct, 2015 05:49 pm
@ehBeth,
Canada dumped the progressive for the establishment candidate? Sorry for you guys. So, you had been laboring under a Mitch McConnell type? Forward-thinking Canada?

That's news.

I guess the Brits pip both of us.
parados
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 05:51 pm
@georgeob1,
They aren't investigating Hillary for any crime. They are investigating to see if the server was breached by someone else which would be a crime. It seems you WISH things were true and then decide they must be true because you WISHED it and Fox News told you it probably was true in spite of the fact there was no evidence and the FBI is denying it.
ehBeth
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 05:56 pm
@Lash,
We have a multi-party system. We dumped the conservatives* who had been in the majority government and on the way, the New Democrats (Sanders equivalent), who were the official opposition and had been the leaders in the pre-election polls, also lost a significant number of votes.

Now the liberals will form the new government, and the conservatives will be the official opposition.

The NDP are now in third party status.

The conservatives miscalculated how their focus on the niqab issue would work out. It was supposed to pull them up. Instead, it did nothing for them and the NDP leaders' position on the matter lost the election for the NDP.


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* the conservatives are centrist in comparison to most American offerings who we generally find right-wing or far-right
ehBeth
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 05:57 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Fox News told you it probably was true in spite of the fact


the same Fox News that said that Biden would be announcing that he was running today?


Laughing
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hawkeye10
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 05:58 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

We have a multi-party system. We dumped the conservatives who had been in the majority government and on the way, the New Democrats (Sanders equivalent), who were the official opposition and had been the leaders in the pre-election polls, also lost a significant number of votes.

Now the liberals will form the new government, and the conservatives will be the official opposition.

The NDP are now in third party status.




Ya after they ran a sucky campaign to include not having much to say and saying once too often that the C's had a good idea. And after the game plan became do what it takes to get rid of the Conservatives which means picking either the L or ND and we need to agree so that it happens. And L was picked for obvious reasons, though I can get into that for you if you like.

The ND's were not down voted because they were too far left, they were because they sucked and they were not left enough.

Ya after they ran a sucky campaign to include not having much to say and saying once too often that the C's had a good idea. And after the game plan became do what it takes to get rid of the Conservatives which means picking either the L or ND and we need to agree so that it happens. And L was picked for obvious reasons, though I can get into that for you if you like.

PRACTICE HONESTY
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Lash
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 06:01 pm
@ehBeth,
Thanks for the update.

I wish we could grow several viable parties.

RABEL222
 
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Wed 21 Oct, 2015 10:06 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
I wish we could grow several viable parties.


Finally! Something we can agree on. So far the two party system sucks. It worked for awhile but something has gone wrong.
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 22 Oct, 2015 02:46 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Hoping the liberals can blow conservative Clinton out of the water, following Canada and Britain's leads.


Britain's lead? The Conservatives won an overall majority in May's general election. You don't know what you're talking about.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 22 Oct, 2015 06:50 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
The Conservatives won an overall majority in May's general election.

A minor technicality that she won't allow to bend her preconception,
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 22 Oct, 2015 06:51 am
Benghazi Chair Goofs And Reveals Same CIA Info He Accused Clinton Of Bungling


The chairman of the House Select Committee on Benghazi on Sunday accidentally leaked what he had characterized as classified information in a testy back-and-forth with the panel's ranking Democrat, Politico reported.

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) appeared to leak the name of a CIA source by accident while responding to a scathing letter from Rep. Elijah Cummings (R-MD). Cummings wrote Gowdy early Sunday demanding that he apologize to Hillary Clinton for falsely claiming she mishandled classified information by forwarding an email containing the CIA source's name to an aide. His letter noted the CIA notified the select committee on Saturday that the email contained no information it deemed classified.


Yahoo News first noticed that the CIA source's name, Mousa Kousa, appeared in a subject line but was redacted elsewhere in the full text of a March 2011 email between Clinton and her confidante Sidney Blumenthal that the chairman released on Sunday. By Monday morning, the document had been replaced with another in which Kousa's name did not appear at all, according to Politico.
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/cia-shrugs-off-clinton-s-1281399243022390.html

A spokesman for the State Department said Monday in a press briefing that "human error" caused Kousa's name to appear in the first version of the email that the committee released, according to Politico. The spokesman, Mark Toner, said the State Department wanted to protect the source's privacy even though the CIA had no objections to releasing his name.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trey-gowdy-cia-source-benghazi-committee
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 22 Oct, 2015 07:00 am
Rep. Cummings: Gowdy fabricated redactions on Clinton's email to make it look like she'd outed a spy
Brian Beutler @brianbeutler
Gowdy fabricated redactions on to Clinton's email to make it look like she'd outed a spy. democrats.benghazi.house.gov/news/press-releases/cia-debunks-gowdy-s-allegation-that-clinton-email-contained-classified-cia …

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRnRsW_WwAA7XhW.jpg


Oct 18, 2015
Press Release
Cummings Calls on Gowdy to Apologize to Clinton

WASHINGTON—Today, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, the Ranking Member of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, sent a letter to Chairman Trey Gowdy to correct the public record after the CIA debunked Chairman Gowdy’s accusation that Secretary Clinton sent an email containing "some of the most protected information in our intelligence community, the release of which could jeopardize not only national security but human lives.”

The full letter is online here and as follows:

Dear Mr. Chairman:

On October 7, 2015, you sent me a 13-page letter making a grave new accusation against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Specifically, you accused her of compromising national security and endangering lives.

The problem with your accusation—as with so many others during this investigation—is that you failed to check your facts before you made it, and the CIA has now informed the Select Committee that you were wrong. I believe your accusations were irresponsible, and I believe you owe the Secretary an immediate apology.

It appears that your letter was rushed out to the press to counter the public firestorm caused by Republican Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s stark admission that Republicans are using millions of taxpayer dollars to damage Secretary Clinton’s bid for president. However, your letter only provided further evidence of this fact.

In your letter on October 7, 2015, you stated that Secretary Clinton received an email from Sidney Blumenthal on March 18, 2011, that included the name of someone who purportedly provided information to the CIA. You asserted that this information was classified, arguing that Secretary Clinton “received classified information from Blumenthal—information she should have known was classified at the time she received it.” You then alleged:

Armed with that information, Secretary Clinton forwarded that email to a colleague—debunking her claim that she never sent any classified information from her private email address.

In your letter, you went to great lengths to highlight the gravity of your accusation, stating:

This information, the name of a human source, is some of the most protected information in our intelligence community, the release of which could jeopardize not only national security but human lives.

To further inflate your claim, you placed your own redactions over the name of the individual with the words, “redacted due to sources and methods.” To be clear, these redactions were not made, and these words were not added, by any agency of the federal government responsible for enforcing classification guidelines.

Predictably, commentators began repeating your accusations in even more extreme terms, suggesting in headlines for example that “Clinton Burns CIA Libya Contact.”

Contrary to your claims, the CIA yesterday informed both the Republican and Democratic staffs of the Select Committee that they do not consider the information you highlighted in your letter to be classified. Specifically, the CIA confirmed that “the State Department consulted with the CIA on this production, the CIA reviewed these documents, and the CIA made no redactions to protect classified information.”

Unfortunately, you sent your letter on October 7 without checking first with the CIA. Now that we have done so, we have learned that your accusations were incorrect.

As a result of your actions, the State Department yesterday asked the Select Committee not to reveal the individual’s name publicly, not for classification reasons, but to protect the individual’s privacy and avoid bringing additional undue attention to this person.

Unfortunately, the standard operating procedure of this Select Committee has become to put out information publicly that is inaccurate and out of context in order to attack Secretary Clinton for political reasons. These repeated actions bring discredit on this investigation and undermine the integrity of the Select Committee and the House of Representatives.

Sincerely,

Elijah E. Cummings
Ranking Member
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 22 Oct, 2015 07:54 am
USAtoday: Hillary Clinton worked to make diplomats safe

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/10/21/hillary-clinton-secretary-of-state-embassies-john-kerry-column/74328300/

Hillary Clinton worked to make diplomats safe: Column


Wendy Sherman 3:52 p.m. EDT October 21, 2015
As a former undersecretary of State, I know her true record.
sherman102215

(Photo: Pool photo by Carlos Barria)

Just a few short weeks ago, after four intense years, I stepped down as undersecretary of State for political affairs, responsible for the day-to-day work of all regional bureaus and international organizations. Thanks to then-Secretary Hillary Clinton's leadership, and continued by now Secretary John Kerry, I began every day looking at intelligence and getting information from every region to see which diplomats, which locally employed staff and which U.S. citizens might be at physical risk, and what we needed to do about it. Every day, every ambassador also looks at risk, and thanks to Secretary Clinton's initiative, works to implement every single recommendation of the non-partisan Accountability Review Board convened after the tragic death of our colleagues in Benghazi, Libya.................

Because of Secretary Clinton, and, of course, President Obama, our highest priority is security, for our diplomats and for our nation. As secretary of State, Hillary Clinton also took critical action to make our world safer, fundamental to making our diplomats and our country safer. She guided the State Department to repair relations around the globe and brokered major agreements that made our world safer, such as the cease-fire between Israel and Hamas. She led the effort to impose the toughest sanctions in U.S. history on Iran, fought to expand Internet freedom and continually promoted the betterment of women and girls.
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revelette2
 
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Thu 22 Oct, 2015 08:22 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Apparently the FBI doesn't agree with you. What do you suppose they are investigating?


Quote:
The inquiry by the FBI is considered preliminary and appears to be focused on ensuring the proper handling of classified material. Officials have said that Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, is not a target.


source
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georgeob1
 
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Thu 22 Oct, 2015 10:30 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

They aren't investigating Hillary for any crime. They are investigating to see if the server was breached by someone else which would be a crime. It seems you WISH things were true and then decide they must be true because you WISHED it and Fox News told you it probably was true in spite of the fact there was no evidence and the FBI is denying it.


More of your pedantic and highly evasive nit picking. They are investigating the inappropriate use of a private, unsecured e mail server on which governmnet businbess was conducted and recorded in violation of written government and State Department directives on the handling of such information, indluding some applicable to all State Departments employees and signed by her. Such investigations are designed to uincover criminal behavior that may exist whereven they find it. There are no a priori limits such as you are deceptively suggesting.
Lash
 
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Thu 22 Oct, 2015 05:19 pm
@izzythepush,
Take it up with them.
http://mic.com/articles/125233/the-uk-s-biggest-liberal-party-just-voted-for-the-british-bernie-sanders

parados
 
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Thu 22 Oct, 2015 05:48 pm
@georgeob1,
ROFLMAO....

You live in a fantastical world where things exist that don't exist here in the real world.
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ehBeth
 
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Thu 22 Oct, 2015 06:47 pm
@Lash,
that was for leadership of the Labour party in the UK, not the national election

the Conservatives won the national election

http://www.bbc.com/news/election/2015
 

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