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The Clinton Rape Allegations

 
 
Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 09:02 am
PDiddie wrote:
Who is "Slick"?

What is a "demmunist"?



Some of the deep thinkers here speak their own language. Then they must giggle when others respond as though they accept the terminology. Must say, though, these represent a new low in discourse...Sure to be surpassed, no doubt, by today's dose of mud slinging!
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 09:10 am
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 09:22 am
I am glad you have posted this joefromchicago. There are many here (though there does seem to have been a recent decline) that could really benefit from a cap like this.
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swolf
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 09:29 am
revel wrote:
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You know what, had Clinton NOT raped those women, these allegations would be fruitless.


Then I guess the allegations are fruitless.

The only reason they started with the rape allegations is that the consentual sex charges against clinton were not having the desired effect on the public's opinion which remained consistent through out his presidency and beyond.


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revel
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 09:43 am
So that is what the famous river looks like? pretty.
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swolf
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 09:58 am
One other thing about the Clinton rape allegations worth noting is that they were the deciding factor in Slick actually being impeached. There were not originally enough votes for it but, then, the republican house leadership made all the republicans read through the rape materials. A number of them walked out of the reading room visibly shaken.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 10:00 am
To a percentage of folks Clinton will always be a rapist. No further proof needs to be offered to them, because none is needed. this is what they want to believe.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 10:00 am
swolf wrote:
It definitely did exist at the time.


Nope.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 10:02 am
impeach=To make an accusation against.
does NOT mean found guilty.
the House made an accusation against Clinton, the Senate did NOT find him guilty.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 10:12 am
... by a relatively thin margin for a supposedly innocent man. Idea
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 10:12 am
I think the more accurate take on it is that the Senate did not find the level of the crime sufficient to warrant removal from office. The Senate did not rule that he was not guilty of the crime, nor did the grand jury who indicted him, nor did the New York federal judge who held him in contempt, nor did the Arkansas bar who disbarred him.

He was not charged with rape, however. He was ruled guilty of lying to a judge and a grand jury constituting an obstruction of justice.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 10:13 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
... by a relatively thin margin for a supposedly innocent man. Idea


almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades old buddy......
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 10:20 am
O.J. wasn't "found guilty" either. Insufficient evidence for a finding of guilty is not the same thing as being "found innocent".
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 10:38 am
Article One: Perjury before the Grand Jury
vote 45 guilty 55 not guilty with 10 republican senators voting NOT guilty.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 10:55 am
Article II - 50 guilty - 50 not guilty.

But technically you are correct Dys. They voted to acquit. But nobody can rationally look at what both Dems and GOP members have said and believe everybody voted on the merits of the case. Many if not most voted on the premise that the offense(s) were not sufficient to remove the president from office. The only way they could prevent that was to acquit.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/impeachment/
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 11:00 am
There's some interesting stuff at that link, Foxfyre. Good reading, especially in the analysis portion.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 11:08 am
ehBeth: Of course the "Toronto Times" and the "Toronto Sun Times" were real newspapers. Otherwise, swolf wouldn't have been able to quote from them. Sure, there is not the slightest bit of proof that they ever existed, but doesn't that make you even a little suspicious? I mean, there is ample evidence attesting to the existence of newspapers like the "Globe & Mail" and the "Toronto Star," but then they didn't publish anti-Clinton articles, did they? And isn't a strange coincidence that no one disputed the fact that the "Times" and the "Sun Times" existed until people like swolf started quoting from their columns? Where was the furor, where was the controversy about these newspapers before they aroused Clinton's ire? Doesn't it strike you as just a little bit odd that these newspapers "disappeared" completely, with every reference to them erased from the internet? And isn't it just too coincidental that Clinton lackey Al Gore invented the internet? And wouldn't it interest you to know that Vince Foster once went to Toronto? The same Vince Foster who was murdered by the Clintons???? I think you'd have to be willfully blind or incredibly naive to miss the obvious connections here.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 11:18 am
Foxfyre wrote:
Article II - 50 guilty - 50 not guilty.

But technically you are correct Dys. They voted to acquit. But nobody can rationally look at what both Dems and GOP members have said and believe everybody voted on the merits of the case. Many if not most voted on the premise that the offense(s) were not sufficient to remove the president from office. The only way they could prevent that was to acquit.
This is absurdly obvious. We can debate whether or not Clinton should have been put in a position to perjure himself forever, but perjure himself he did, and we all know it. Idea
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 11:20 am
Psst, Joe, this might be the only chance you'll ever get to agree with me...Take it! Laughing
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2004 11:34 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Psst, Joe, this might be the only chance you'll ever get to agree with me...Take it! Laughing

Agree with you about what? That Clinton perjured himself? I don't necessarily agree.

(and, by the way, I've agreed with you on a number of occasions, O'BILL: I'm just too embarrassed to submit a post when that happens)
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