RABEL222
 
  2  
Reply Tue 14 Apr, 2015 10:25 am
@Baldimo,
Not a fu=n dime. I dont do as I am told by my masters like you and others seem to do. I look at the facts and make up my own mind as to what is true and what is false.
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RABEL222
 
  2  
Reply Tue 14 Apr, 2015 10:31 am
@2217,
Thia site is an opinion site. My opinions are my own supported by facts not propaganda. I have the ability to think for myself after sifting through what information I can find in all the media, not just that that supports my opinion. In other words I dont watch Fox news.
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InfraBlue
 
  2  
Reply Tue 14 Apr, 2015 03:29 pm
@Ionus,
Maybe you missed the link I provided.

http://www.wzo.org.il/
Ionus
 
  1  
Reply Tue 14 Apr, 2015 09:58 pm
@InfraBlue,
No, I didnt, I just cant read Hebrew . Thats the second time someone on this forum assumed I read Hebrew...Oy, schmutz !

If it is your argument I would expect references to be more current than 100yrs old (for current affairs only, of course) and to be in English .
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Reply Tue 14 Apr, 2015 10:25 pm
@Ionus,
You're a god-damn infant, you want, you want, you want.

You want I change your ******* diapers too?

The WZO website is in English. Something you'd know if you'd stop bitching and actually look at the link.

The Zionists haven't changed their apologetics much since they first formed their ideology. They don't think of "the Jews" as a race anymore, ever since genetic research discredited the idea.
Ionus
 
  1  
Reply Tue 14 Apr, 2015 10:55 pm
@InfraBlue,
You said : To base the claim of ownership of Palestine because a few of one's ancestors may have been from Palestine is patently preposterous.

I said : Who is making that claim ?

You said : That's a claim made by the Zionists.

I said : Do you have a ref where THE Zionist organisation ...makes that claim ?

I am having internet problems and the title was slow to load . Yes the site has an English translation . My apologies for any confusion .

Now ...can you support your claim ?
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Reply Wed 15 Apr, 2015 10:55 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

You said : To base the claim of ownership of Palestine because a few of one's ancestors may have been from Palestine is patently preposterous.

I said : Who is making that claim ?

You said : That's a claim made by the Zionists.

I said : Do you have a ref where THE Zionist organisation ...makes that claim ?

I am having internet problems and the title was slow to load . Yes the site has an English translation . My apologies for any confusion .

Now ...can you support your claim ?

I can and I have.

Go back and read my posts.
revelette2
 
  3  
Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 07:35 am
'Thousands' of Israeli Arab homes threatened with demolition
Ionus
 
  1  
Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 09:27 am
@InfraBlue,
I have read your posts and I must take your continued denial to quote from the website you provided as proof that you can not support your statement .
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Ionus
 
  0  
Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 09:29 am
@revelette2,
Awful pictures . If people stop supporting the Palestinians we can achieve real humanitarian outcomes .
ehBeth
 
  1  
Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 09:30 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

No, I didnt, I just cant read Hebrew .


there's a button at the top of the website page that translates the site into English

which turns it into

http://www.wzo.org.il/index.php?language=eng


(did you not see that? or ...)
Ionus
 
  1  
Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 09:31 am
@ehBeth,
Thanks for your trouble, its been sorted .
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revelette2
 
  3  
Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 11:17 am
@Ionus,
Of which opinion of yours has squat to do with the subject of Israel denying Israeli Arabs permits and destroying their homes. Can you not just admit that Israel is a discriminatory state? I am so tired of people saying they support "Israel because it is only democratic state in the region." What a load of bunk.

Quote:
Ramle (Israel) (AFP) - "Where will we go," asks eight-year-old Tiba Qeren, saying goodbye to the family home that, like those of many other Israeli Arabs, is condemned to demolition for failing to meet planning rules.


"I'm afraid," she tells AFP. "I know that they are going to destroy our home as they have others in Ramle," the mixed Arab and Jewish town where they live, about 18 kilometres (11 miles) from Tel Aviv.

"I'm annoyed because I tell myself: who gives them the right to destroy our house," she says, her young voice shaking with anger.

"The land is not theirs, it belongs to my family and the house is not theirs because it is my family who built it! "

The Israeli Arab community has its roots in the 160,000 Palestinians who stayed on their land after the creation of Israel in 1948.

Today they and their descendants number around 1.3 million.

While Israeli law guarantees them full equality with other citizens, in practice there are claims of discrimination in government funding and a raft of other issues.

Israeli Arab rights group Adalah says only 4.6 percent of new homes built in Israel are in Arab towns and villages although Arabs make up 20 percent of the population.

Jewish settlers in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, who number around 580,000, receive four times as many housing units as Arabs in Israel, the group's website says

On Wednesday, five apartments in the Arab village of Dahmash, between Ramle and Lod, were demolished for having been built without construction permits, a villager told AFP.

On Monday, a home in the Galilee village of Kfar Kana -- biblical Cana -- was razed for the same reason.

In Ramle, 11 families last week received demolition notices.

Arab community leaders Wednesday called for a general strike in protest

Across the country the potential threat is huge, Arab former MP Hana Sweid said.

"About 25,000 Arab homes fall under the scope of demolition orders," he told AFP.

"Police came a week ago and told us that he must leave the house quietly, without resistance," said Tiba's father, Yusef Qeren, 49.

"I told them, there are 12 people living here."

He said that four times he submitted applications for building permits and four time he was rejected.

His son Abdelrahman, 14, does not believe his home could soon be rubble.

"If they destroy it, we shall rebuild it!" he vows.

Yusef Qeren is convinced that the local authorities are anti-Arab in their policy on planning permission.

"In Ramle the law only applied to Arabs," he said.

A local committee opposing the planned demolitions has set up a protest tent, with a large banner in Arabic and Hebrew.

"They are destroying Arab homes and building houses for settlers," it reads.



(from the previous link)
Ionus
 
  0  
Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 09:37 pm
@revelette2,
I support Israel because it will win and the sooner you realise that the better we can help Palestinians . But you are like a lot of greenies...do it my way and damn the consequences .
RABEL222
 
  1  
Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 10:04 pm
@Ionus,
So your one of the assholes who say I dont care what means they use to steal pal. land I want to be with the winners. You have to be an Isralie with that attitude. And the hatred of the surrounding Arab population will in the long run destroy Israel unless of course the U S continues to support this bloody government.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 10:26 pm
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:
I support Israel because it will win and the sooner you realise that the better we can help Palestinians . But you are like a lot of greenies...do it my way and damn the consequences .

I for one no longer have any desire to help the Palestinians. They deserve what is going to happen to them.
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UnseenEuphemism
 
  1  
Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 10:48 pm
@djjd62,
Oh no we realize that we do not matter in a national or cosmic scale, such is every human's realization and burden. However from what I have seen and experienced Americans either rail against that realization via building or changing something or accept it and ride their individual hedonism to the end.
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UnseenEuphemism
 
  1  
Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 10:55 pm
@maxdancona,
I believe that this is a fairly drastic oversimplification, having recently graduated from the glorious US Scholastic System I know that we are taught that we should be proud to be Americans and that because we matter to America-ideally-and that America's allies matter because their interests are similar to America's, and therefor our own, interests and goals or they provide something to America that it needs.
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Ionus
 
  1  
Reply Fri 17 Apr, 2015 01:25 am
@RABEL222,
Comprehension is not your strong point, is it ? I said I want to support the Israelis, get it over with quickly and give the Palestinians their new home rather than have them suffer . You dont care about the Palestinians, you just want your own way . Any caring person would look for a solution, but you are bloody minded and demand it be done your way . Why do you hate Middle East peoples anyway, is it their big nose ?

Quote:
in the long run destroy Israel
Ahhh... now we see why you are so belligerent...you want to destroy Israel...why ?

revelette2
 
  1  
Reply Fri 17 Apr, 2015 11:09 am
@Ionus,
My enemy is my friend work for you much?
 

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