What's your dream car?

hey man. any good cigars worth tellin?

My travel buddy and I used to go to Cuba, and my favorite is the Partagas D4's. We used to visit their factory that was located behind the capitol building in Havana. Try the D4's, they're really good.
https://www.cigarterminal.com/en/partagas-serie-d-no-4-25-cigars.html

The Camberwell carrot is my favorite stogie. You’ll never go back.

They might be able to squeeze a lot of horsepower out of a tiny little engine, but they'll do it at the expense of low-end torque, or the engine will be far from nimble and responsive.

No thanks. A proper sports car is powered by a naturally-aspirated engine with a displacement greater than 6 liters.

There is no replacement for displacement.

I used to be down on turbos and high on cubic inches, but the turboed 3.0 (187 CI) in my M240 will out pull my NA 350 CI small block Chevy anywhere from 1350 rpm up, and the torque is flat almost to 7000. The 350 gets me 17 mpg when I’m easy on it, the turbo 3.0 has averaged almost double that, 33.6 mpg for the first 10,ooo miles. The only time the V8 wins is from idle to 1350 rpm. I even like the smooth symmetrical sound of the straight 6 compared to the V8 burble. The V8 is in a 3000 pound car (1923 model T). The 3.0 has 3460 pounds to carry, so it isn’t a weight advantage for the M.

I love'm both though.

How responsive is the engine though?

A large displacement V12 will give you the same sound as a straight six, with torque at the low end and a more responsive engine.

you sound like youre a funny car enthusiast. No thanks. You may be right about low end torque, but when I used to live near Stockton Cal, I would take the family to the Rt 5 Night races which were a bunch of long haul racing nthusiasts. I knew a guy , Joe Gelman who said about some of his Fuel injected, turbo boosted , cars carried on all carbon fibre and Ti.
"You may beat me in a quarter mile but the race is to Sacramento . After I catch up and pass you after a quarter, By the time you get to Sacto, Ill be done eatin breakfast". Some of his loads would give a Veryon a 1/2 mi head start just to make it more interesting.

hell, even a Venom is smallr displacement than my diesels F 250.s And turbod out the ass.
They make about 1600bhp at 7.1L

From memory, The B58 engine makes maximum torque (500Nm) between 1500 and 4500 rpm. In eco mode there is a brief lag but in sport or sport+ the transmission programming keeps the engine turning up enough so max torque is always available. The new ZF 8 speed auto is a masterpiece. I couldn’t tell that the dual clutch 7 speed was any faster or firmer on shifts. There really isn’t any justification for a stick shift other than for 'effect'. It’s slower and gets less mpg than the auto.

Yep, a NA V12 is sweet and is always 'instant on' but it will never deliver 33.6 mpg.

ya still need to account for the lag. hence you make sure yer races are at least a few miles, and arent measured in seconds of duration.

MPG ahh yes. Wait till the insect is done. It shall be the right mix of speed and economy meant for an old man.

No so. The M240 has Launch Mode. Max torque is available the instant the brake peddle is released. 0 - 60 in 4.4 seconds. Not supercar numbers but PDG.

You described it perfectly though, perfect blend of performance and economy.

you have no turbo lag?

Not in launch mode.

In this mode, apply firm brake, then apply full throttle, the ECU opens the throttle enough to rev the engine to above stall speed of the torque converter. This produces enough exhaust flow to rev the turbo enough to give full boost at launch rpm. (~3000 rpm if I remember right) To launch, all that is needed is to release the brake and keep throttle floored. The turbo is already making boost so zero lag. The ECU, traction control and transmission handle everything to give best possible acceleration.

I tried it once just to see it work but drag racing is not my bag. At the road course track when in Sport or sport + mode I can’t detect any lag unless I’ve gone off in a turn and getting back on the track. In a car with this power to weight ratio you always squeeze the power on gently out of the turns anyway, if you’re do’s it right.

thats sorta the same with std big block aspirated engines with stick trans. My lil Explorer has a "port mode" (kinda marketing more thqn tech).
The manual says not to do what your Launch mode says not to do but I notice that the lag isnt as pronounced when i brake and stomp. sport mode makes the paddles work.

That's gotta be tough on the clutch, or tires, or whatever is slipping while waiting for the staging light. Most drivers only have two feet.

aha, theres the thing. In the old days (rremember Im only three years youngern you and I remember when my dad showed me how to hit the gs and brake with one foot. Heel on brake, toe stomps gas. Left foot clutch, Go like hell. I never said it was somethiong that was friendlly with the en gine or tranny, but the car actually leaped .

Big block with a stick, I’m sure it did leap.
I always toed the brake and blipped throttle for downshifts with heel. Don’t do that anymore though, the butchers that worked on my leg made such fancy footwork impossible. The muscles that rotate my right ankle are long gone.

Limousine Lincoln MKS is the my favourite car for corporate service & long tour

Nah. Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race.

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/11-second-muscle-cars-2018-pure-stock-drags/

If fuel economy is an issue, the answer is an engine with cylinder deactivation, like the V8s in the latest corvettes.

https://www.wardsauto.com/2014/2014-winner-general-motors-62l-lt1-ohv-di-v-8
https://www.wardsauto.com/2015/2015-winner-chevrolet-62l-lt1-ohv-di-v-8