Calling it an ideology to be atheist is total ****. Nothing you say can make that so.
I'd prefer to call it an absence of ideology. Even more accurately, it's an absence of dogma.
And are you actually saying that someone who asserts there are no gods...is not speaking dogmatically?
Really. Without dragging this discussion into a further tedium...more semantics , the absence of an ideology is not necessarily an ideology.
Quote:And are you actually saying that someone who asserts there are no gods...is not speaking dogmatically?
I can best answer that by relating this definition...at least, as far providing a working definition ... for the sake of this discussion:
"Dogma is a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true."
The atheists with whom I'm familiar, do NOT declare themselves as authorities...and do NOT declare what is true for others.
Why do people you disagree with so often accuse you of rage?
If I had rage I would give away my computer and do all my writing in spiral notebooks.
You say that if I say there are no gods it is an ideology and then deny making the claim.
Take an aspirin and get some rest, frank. I suggest you stay out of atheist discussions.
You have this Paul-fought-with-an-angel-complex that makes you proselytize like a religious fanatic with a sandwich sign on a busy street corner. As I said before, you try to bully those who disagree with you. There is no ideology when there is nothing and that is my final take on it. Carry on with other posters if you wish, but for the time being I am done with you.
Stop shouting, it isn't seemly.
Part of the confusion lies in the negative connotations carried by the word 'ideology', linked to dogma. I don't use the term is this way, think of it as a system of political thought. I have one: it's called social-democracy, although my personal version is heavily tweaked... And yes, it includes its fair share of anticlericalism, although i don't paint slogans on churches at night or anything like that... :-)
(Once read, airbrushed on the facade of a small church in Rome: "MENO CHIESE PIÙ CASE !" Can't say i disagree with that, but I swear I didn't do it.)