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Bill Cosby accused of Rape - say it ain't so

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 05:22 pm
@ehBeth,
How many people said that Obama is not an American? A few million maybe? Did the number of accusers make the statement anymore true?

30 or 300 I dont care, I need to see some proof, or at least some evidence other than these womens assertions.
cicerone imposter
 
  5  
Wed 7 Jan, 2015 05:37 pm
@hawkeye10,
That you don't care has no import to anyone.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Wed 7 Jan, 2015 05:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

That you don't care has no import to anyone.

When did everyone tell you this?
firefly
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 06:32 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Are you challenging Hawkeye's absurdly inflated sense of self-importance? Laughing

He's perfectly willing to consider the rather far-fetched possibility that Cosby might be the victim of almost 30 independent false accusations, by women who really have nothing to gain from such lies, but he does not give greater or equal credibility to the more likely possibility that, at least some of these women are telling the truth, given the consistent pattern they describe on his part. It has nothing to do with Cosby, it's about Hawk's basic mistrust of women. When women cry rape, he wants them to produce videotapes of the event, witnesses, DNA, and a signed confession from the assailant, before he'll even consider the possibility they might have been raped. Laughing

Whatever he thinks really doesn't matter, to anyone but him, but he's too grandiose to realize that.

ehBeth
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 06:47 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
When women cry rape, he wants them to produce videotapes of the event, witnesses, DNA, and a signed confession from the assailant, before he'll even consider the possibility they might have been raped. Laughing


whenever he goes this route, I wonder what evidence he required of family members he claims were assaulted
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Bentinie
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 07:26 pm
@hawkeye10,
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How many people said that Obama is not an American? A few million maybe? Did the number of accusers make the statement anymore true?

30 or 300 I dont care, I need to see some proof, or at least some evidence other than these womens assertions.


Your above statement is not a comparable one. Everyone knew Obama was an American citizen born in Hawaii. The reason there were these false accusations against him was because his political enemies wanted to smear him, to make him feel uncomfortable, hoping he would fail; also, to encourage those angry at his presidency to believe they had a legitimate grievance against the president. Had Obama been illegal or born in another country Hillary Clinton would have uncovered this and left no stone unturned until she was satisfied.

Why you're being obstinate re Bill Cosby and his ongoing fight against his many accusers might possibly be known only to yourself, but one might conjecture you're trying to clean up your sometime dogmatic and obnoxious image vis-à-vis most run-of-the-mill posts by implying we're harassing the African American Bill Cosby.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 07:29 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
This painting was my ode to the scarcity—and to the plight—of the black doll. . . . The positioning of the dolls hanging from a clothesline, in an upside-down trajectory as they are suspended in perpetuity, suggests an uncertain future status. The expressionistic paint rendering and predominant use of red are a visceral interpretation of the persistent and relentless distortion of black imagery in our culture.—Erika Ranee Cosby

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab292/CHANDLERSWISH/img-54-e1413394535214-500x4312x.jpg



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About his performances Cosby says, "I feel that in-person contact with people is the most important thing in comedy. While I'm up on stage, I can actually put myself into the audience and adjust my pace and timing to them. I can get into their heads through their ears and through their eyes. Only through this total communication can I really achieve what I'm trying to do."



Tuesday, August 14, 2007

http://tobestalks.blogspot.com.au/2007/08/hugh-hefner-is-all-knowing.html
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The media always needs a scandal. Last week it was an alleged sexual assault at the Playboy mansion. At this time, the case has been dropped because the alleged victim is declining to press charges. The "feminists are evil lying bitches" folks are coming out in drolls concluding that this is further proof that rape is nothing more than hype so women can win court money to pay for boob jobs (really--- I read a blog today claiming just that).

I have no clue whether or not this rape occured. I was not there and don't know the circumstance--- from what I can gather online, the woman claimed to be assaulted while unconcious. Naturally that makes pursuing a criminal investigation tricky as she has no memory of the attack.

I feel the need to speak up since once again, jerkwads are claiming this as a victory for the "women lie about rape" camp. Would it really be out of the quesiton for a woman to be raped at a Playboy party?

ABSOLUTELY NOT. This is actually the perfect breeding ground for a sexual assault.

Free flowing booze (and likely drugs) combined with an overcrowded, oversexed atmosphere where people are pushing limits and acting wild. What do you suppose men assume about female Playmates or women who attend Playboy functions? I'm betting they have it in their mind that these women are free and loose about sex. Is it any surprise then that a sexual assault could or WOULD happen there?

Thank goodness Mr. Hefner went on TV to set the record straight. *SARCASM*

Yes, it's true there was insuffiencent evidence to proceed and the woman declined to press charges but this happens constantly in sexual assault situations. Rape is often a 'he said/she said' situation. And in this case alcohol was involved (to the point where a woman was unconcious). Add to the mix that the woman was MORE THAN LIKELY dressed provacitively or acting our sexually... I mean, would you want to go into court with that working against you? Often women decline to press charges because they don't want to open themselves up to ridicule or questions that put blame on them. Can't you hear it?

You went to the Playboy mansion? Without your boyfriend? Wearing that? Flirting with whom? How did you dance? You kissed how many people? You drank HOW much?

Mr. Hefner stated on TV that "absolutely no rape occured." He even tells the reporter that this woman MADE UP the story to placate an angry boyfriend because she got home late.

Cause the "Sorry I'm late honey, I was raped" excuse is so much easier than the "my car broke down" excuse?

Mr. Hefner's speaking to media about this is beyond vile. He offers no proof of this story except that "there's no question about it." In this particular interview, Mr. Hefner does not say he spoke with police or the alleged victim.

I want to remind Mr. Hefner that at this time, the woman has NOT recanted her story, merely declined to press charges. I imagine she thought she could avoid this sort of press/speculation/circus if she dropped the charges--- turns out, Mr. Hefner's going to call her a lying whore in public anyway. And he's got hords of trolls doing it online as well.

If this was a false accusation, it's horrible for the people involved and for women who ARE raped. But if this assault did occur and this is how the media reacts, it's just one more situation that's going to keep real rape victims afraid.


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Lawyer claims Hugh Hefner had high tech cameras installed in the bedrooms


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Hugh Hefner on Bill Cosby Rape Allegations: “I would never tolerate this.


2001
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That's not the case for another former Playmate. Testifying in Chicago before the 1986 Commission on Pornography, this young woman, who requested anonymity, said, "(During my time with Playboy) I experienced everything from date rape to physical abuse ."

Krabacher concedes having witnessed such things. "Girls get injured when they live in a world that revolves around superficial beauty," she says. "I think the reason some of them get into lesbianism-and I'd thought about it myself-is that women are safe. When you're a Playboy model, so many men gawk at you and hit on you and lie to you and tell you anything to satisfy their own fantasies, their own lust, you become very distrustful. You become very weary. At first, and really for a while, you're flattered by the attention and the compliments. But then you realize that what they're complimenting is all they see. There is no you. There is only the way you look."


http://www.connectionmagazine.org/archives_old/2001_02/explayboybunny.htm

Interesting.

There is a deep dark seeded anger in my opinion and rebelliousness regarding the daughters, over blacks and whites, over drugs/drinking to numb things even 2011 and driving without a license. Still rebelling.

Then there is Hugh. Who would never tolerate this type of thing yet, was blamed of exactly that himself in 2001. And, yet he had cameras allegedly in his bedrooms, so therefore footage.

Interesting.
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 07:31 pm
@Bentinie,
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Why you're being obstinate re Bill Cosby and his ongoing fight against his many accusers might possibly be known only to yourself, but one might conjecture you're trying to clean up your sometime dogmatic and obnoxious image vis-à-vis most run-of-the-mill posts by implying we're harassing the African American Bill Cosby


Wrong, I am pointing out that neither 3, 30, 300 or 3000 accusations make Bill Cosby quilty. Show me some evidence if you want me to conclude that he is guilty.
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 08:14 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Bill Crosby fell from Jewish Lobby’s grace last year when he told Stacy Brown of the New York Post (June 9, 2013) that Americans should follow the example set by the Nation of Islam in improving the moral and social values among Afro-American communities.

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“I’m a Christian. But Muslims are misunderstood. Intentionally misunderstood. We should all be more like them. They make sense especially with their children. There is no other group like the Black Muslims, who put so much effort into teaching children the right things, they don’t smoke, they don’t drink or overindulge in alcohol, they protect their women, they command respect. And what these other people do?

The complain about them. They criticize them. We would be a better world if we emulated them. we don’t have to become Black Muslims, but we can embrace the things that work. We need people not only in the church, but in the community, who are not afraid to speak up because they want to hear a child’s laughter – not a child’s blood-curdling scream because a bullet hit them. We want them playing outside,” Said Bill Cosby


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Dec 10, 2014 - Roseanne to Cosby: Slam Israel, regain reputation. 0Share ... Outspoken comedian Roseanne Barr lashed out at Jews who are anti-Israel and ...

Roseanne had previously told the New York Daily News, “I don’t wanna get sued or have [Cosby] send anyone to beat me up, but I think it’s obvious: 13 to 1.”

But she did previously Tweet about the Cosby rape allegations, “maybe Woody Allen or Roman Polanski could b persuaded2 write a part4 Bill Cosby in 1 of their new movies?” And, “it might be time for #billCosby to condemn the state of Israel so he can get back into the good graces of Hollywood!.”


ehBeth
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 08:18 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
You might want to double-check a few things before posting them.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 08:26 pm
@ehBeth,
Hitler/Cosby

We hope you will pick a user name, stick around, and let us show you how to write funny fake encyclopedia articles!

Grrrr.... and so - edited out.
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 8 Jan, 2015 02:48 am
@hawkeye10,
You're always claiming to speak for the wider community. What's sauce for the goose and all that. You wouldn't want people to think you're stupid, or a hypocrite, or both now would you?
FOUND SOUL
 
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Thu 8 Jan, 2015 03:02 am
@ehBeth,
PS ... "FANKS" I spent 3hrs studying everything I could find on him and Hef, hence by then I think I needed a coffee or something ... Appreciated.
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hawkeye10
 
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Thu 8 Jan, 2015 03:38 am
@izzythepush,
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You're always claiming to speak for the wider community.
A long time ago I said that owner actions were going to be detrimental to the community and thus would not be in the best interests of A2K. My argument was ignored. Now the community barely exists, and A2K is much weaker as a result, and getting weaker still. Now as it turns out I was wrong about the mechanism for the community to dissolve, I said at the time that running the place on the popularity metric was going to get rid of the interesting people who had something useful to say, something that we were not hearing already from 100 other different people, so we would end up with a boring sameness imposed by bullying. What actually happened was that those of us who were supposed to get ignored and thus buried by the new A2K and effectively disappeared countered by becoming even more provocative to the point were we could not be ignored. Now me, I love arguing so that was fine with me, but a lot of people dont. Those same people who were pushing Robert to make A2K like Facebook did not get what they wanted so they left. A lot of other people left as the community disappeared because they were here to be part of a community, and once the community died the point for being here was gone.

We can still get some good arguments going but increasingly this place is populated by argumentative shallow people like yourself who neither have the ability to argue ideas nor any interest in being part of a community. You for instance come around here most days and dont even attempt to talk about thread topics, your whole game is trying to see how big of a dick you can be. I presume that you have a very sad life and that this is the best you can do to keep entertained.

I gather that what remains of the community is on facebook. I have not attempted to check it out because I am blamed for being part of what went wrong here. That is wrong, I should have been welcomed here, it was the attempt to rid A2K of the likes of me that destroyed A2K. But hey, that was not on me, I did not do it, an I was even so generous to give warnings of the mistakes being made way back years ago when they were being made.

But thanks for playing. IDIOT.
izzythepush
 
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Thu 8 Jan, 2015 03:51 am
@hawkeye10,
You claimed to speak for everyone on A2K when you insulted my posts. That's your goldfishesque memory playing you up again. An idiot is someone who can't tell the difference between patients and patience and bazaar and bizarre. And even when the difference has been pointed out still needs Finn to explain everything. A shallow person thinks weird sexual practices makes him interesting, and that by referencing, (but not understanding) Zen he comes across as deep.

It's just as well you can't see yourself as others see you. Still standing by your prediction that Kim Jong Un's missing weeks were spent in Switzerland?

You're so like this guy.

hawkeye10
 
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Thu 8 Jan, 2015 04:04 am
@izzythepush,
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You claimed to speak for everyone on A2K when you insulted my posts. That's your goldfishesque memory playing you up again
Ya, the only thing I recall saying is that we only keep you around to play with you. I was clearly playing with you. You should have been honored that I took the time considering how little of value you add to A2K.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Thu 8 Jan, 2015 04:07 am
@hawkeye10,
You are being vulnerable.

Facebook friends from here is about "our" lives and Politics, cooking, what ever we are into..

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Bentinie
 
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Thu 8 Jan, 2015 04:34 am
@hawkeye10,
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cicerone imposter wrote:

That you don't care has no import to anyone.


Quote:
hawkeye10 wrote:
When did everyone tell you this?


No poster is going to take your facetious question seriously. Ci is merely echoing what the majority of posters feel when reading your autocratic sanctimonious posts. I'm inclined to agree with Cicerone imposter that in the realm of reality your posts are of little significance because you're merely trying to score a point,missing the true substance of what's being discussed. Your contempt for women is glaringly obvious, i.e."I'll grab a tit," and I believe you are being deliberately perverse: You, from all indications, are a poster in dire need of some kind of professional help.
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 8 Jan, 2015 05:18 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
Ya, the only thing I recall saying is that we only keep you around to play with you. I was clearly playing with you. You should have been honored that I took the time considering how little of value you add to A2K.


So you've done exactly what you've accused CI of. And you're too dim to realise you're contradicting yourself. As has been pointed out, you seem to think your opinion counts for so much, it doesn't.

Your record on A2K is you bleating on about being the real victim, and being deliberately provocative and sexist just to get a response. Claiming to be a Socialist without understanding what Socialism is, again just to shock. And let's not forget your problem with basic English.

You're quite sad and pathetic, and like most people who take themselves way too seriously, have absolutely nothing in the way of a sense of humour. I find you very much a tedious little tit, a minor annoyance, like a friend's jack Russell that tries to shag my leg every time I visit. I don't feel remotely honoured by having such an inarticulate fuckwit converse with me, although I do take some minor pleasure in getting under your skin and showing your Zen cobblers for the load of bollocks it really is.

As for the value I add to A2K, that's purely subjective, and I prefer to listen to those whose opinion I value. Nobody's ever called me Chicken Little.
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hawkeye10
 
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Fri 9 Jan, 2015 04:22 pm
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The simple fact is you cannot be friends with a man whose accusers are in the double digits, even if this man is still walking free -- perhaps especially if this man is still walking free. Not if you want the rape of women to stop happening.

That Cosby likely won't be charged for any of the alleged crimes he is accused of is a scenario not at all unique to him. Every year, literally countless men who engage in sexual violence against women do not face charges, for reasons as varied and familiar as those given by the women in the Cosby scandal. The law is not perfect, and has limitations. That's where the rest of us come in.

Boycotting these men, excluding them from our lives, not being their friends, their defenders, their devil's advocates. Holding them accountable. Turning our backs. Stopping the rationalizations. This is where and how we take a stand.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/09/opinions/drexler-bill-cosby-phylicia-rashad/index.html

This is in direct violation of the spirit in which America was founded as is enshrined in the Constitution.

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