Craven and Bi-Polar Bear have inspired OCCOM BILL to finally

the hardest 'drug' for me to give up at the moment is tea...
ive been drinking it since i was 5
and some days ive been known to drink over 10 pints of the stuff
ive managed recently to find some herbal tea that tastes ok and im doing my best to slip in several mugs of this in between my normal teas this is having some degree of success

i kind of kicked the coffee habit but recently i went to a friends house and i succumbed to several cups of douwe egberts continental gold coffee with a bit of brown sugar i cant drink it neat anymore as after so long without it it tastes really bitter..yuk
i tried some filter coffee too recently but this tasted real bad after all this time off but strangley although it tasted terrible i found myself wanting another cup after id drank it hmm the power of addiction....
while i was in argentina this winter i picked up a terrible coca cola drinking habit along with a red wine drinking habit but ive managed to kick these since i got back to england
ive been on a massive detox drive the last three years with the odd relapse
ive tried all sorts of diets
wheat free dairy free vegetarian pasta free.....
each diet i succeeded about a month before the old patterns kicked back in
i must say i feel very clean and pure for the effort ive put in
i havent eaten meat or fish now for months and i feel fine
i am having a salad most days lots of brown rice, vegetable soups
i have a smoothie each day made of bananas, nuts, raspberries, blueberries and i mix in with it a green powder called spirulina which is an algae i also have this soy powder called soylicious that has lots of good things in it once or twice a week
im taking multivitamins(solgar omnium) antioxidants and phytonutrients(slow down the aging process reputedly) which includes grape seed extract reservatrol pycogenol proanthcyanidins bioflavonoids tumeric tocotrienol astaxanthin and all sorts of other strange names supposed to keep me young and healthy
i also take chlorella which is another algae
as to wether this all works id ask me in ten years time from now but it makes me feel like im doing good to myself and keeps me in a positive frame of mind
through all this ive realised that everything we do is a habit to some degree and the only way to give up the bad ones is to fill my time with good habits
i had a dream the other week that i had i smoke
man it was so real i eveen woke up with the feeling in my lungs and i could almost taste the smoke it was very freaky
also recently ive been going to this health place and getting reflexology shiatsu massage, reiki, hopi ear candles, indian head massage ,deep tissue massage and something called manual lymphatic drainage
id highly recommend these treatments as they made me feel really good and full of positive energy
ill finish with a saying a greek man told me who runs the diving school i go to on the island of mykonos in greece

may you have health and wealth.... and the time to enjoy it

peace and love

Man, if I ever start doing a tenth of that stuff; somebody send me a pack of smokes FAST! I can't imagine where you get your wherewithal.

I dumped sugar (most) from my diet first and lost all the weight I needed to lose. Booze was never an issue, but so far has disappeared with the smokes and I've added daily exercise. Some days as little as a single set of pushups, but something daily. I hope to push the exercise "habit" up to 30 minutes a day, but that's it. I'm not trying to be a yogi. I just decided I'd like to stick around a little longer and maybe live a little better.

I wouldn't worry about the tea. I don't think it will hurt you.

i understand
well once i gave up one thing i thought id see what else i could give up
im not so worried about the tea but
i am into being a yogi and ive had spiritual things happening to me most of my life
i want to be so pure that people will be able to use my poo for toothpaste
at the moment im considering going to thailand to do some fasting and im also considering colonic irrigation apparently they are going to pump fifteen gallons of water up my butt and this is supposed to clean all the impurities out that ive got inside ill tell you how its gone afterwards
i exercise a few times a week and i try to do between 1 and 2 hours a time running cycling stretching then a jacuzzi and steam afterwards (all at the local gym this is)
i recommend going for a run each day thatll clean out yer lungs
i think your doing a great job and i think cutting out smoking alone will add many years to your life
as long as your happy with your life thats what counts at the end of the day eh
man if you live on palm beach with all that fresh sea air i dont think you got many worries
they say pollutions the biggest killer so if your by fresh sea air then good for you
im envious.... at the moment im stuck in the middle of a city in the middle of this country a hundred miles from the nearest beach
anyway i feel as though im rambling so im going now
have fun

Eek - too many smilies for so early in the morning.....grumbles off.....

Well for myself, I absolutely refused to give up ALL vices along with cigarettes. Something has to kill me eventually.

Col man-

FIFTEEN GALLONS UP YOUR BUTT?

I am going to Niagra falls this week do you think if I bend over just right I could get a free-be?

HAHAHAHAHAHaaa..... you thought you were S A F E ....

Increased circulation huh.. yeah.. sure

So what other excuses do you use when you approach women with your (ahem) cigar poking out like that?

You should probably take away my "gold stars." I have way too much else going on right to worry about quitting smoking too, including other addictions I need to kick pretty soon. But, I'll continue to check this thread and find that motivation within myself somewhere. I'll let you know when I make my next attempt.

Well darn Smog. Sorry to hear that. But none of us quit until we're ready. I'll keep your gold stars safe and ready.

Smog-

Your a bigger person than I at least you tried. And having the mind set that you will try again is good. Multiple addictions s*ck. I know the feeling, you could start with the most damaging one, trying to conquer to many at once can get over whelming.

I'm still in fine form. Drinking is no problem without the cigarettes since it's been quite a while that bars and restaurants here banned smoking so I've gotten used to it. I do, however, feel the urge after a few drinks but since I don't carry and none of my friends do, there's nowhere to get a ciggie.

Col-man, you have me freaked out with all that stuff. Are you mad man? As for colonic irrigation - now that's going a wee bit far don't ya think? I am a firm believer in enjoying food, and I'd rather die in 30 years happily eating the foods I savor than die in 50 miserably eating cardboard and suffering to be 'healthy', besides I don't doubt that some foods are healthier than others but I believe a lot of it is not as healthy as doctors and experts make out. However, if it makes you happy - away with you! I am happily enjoying my donut and vanilla coke as we speak/type.

Smog, when you're ready you're ready. There's no pressure here, only support. I agree that taking one thing at a time is key. The less stress the better, I say.

Well for quality of life purposes, I'm a firm believer in a reasonable diet and a reasonable exercise regime. Avoiding poisons (such as nicotine) is a good thing to do. But all things in moderation; even healthy things. Don't you know that the tofu-eating vegetarians who avoid all vices, take plenty of vitamins,and exercise regularly are gonna be soooooo surprised when they die anyway?

hahah Heeven yes im a mad man but then it takes us crazy people to make the rest of you look sane
and yes this stuff makes me happy truly there are many demensions beyond the physical plane and i for one am exploring them
sometimes these crazy things i do are the only way to get there
i want to go too far i want to go all the way
i also think each to there own too
speaking of freaky things i had an endoscopy recently, well a year or so ago, to check for colon cancer and they got this huge black tube withg a camera on and stuck it up my 'khyber pass'
that was an eye opening experience i can tell you
i could feel it working it way round me inside
and i was watching it on a tv screen the inside of my you know what it was crazy and joyously i dont have colon cancer either..thank god im a tofu eating veggie who tries at least to avoid vices
and exercise regularly
i dont expect my body to live
but i know my spirit will and for me my life a preparation for that glorious moment when i leave my body
i say live life and enjoy it
if you like vices do it
the only reason im on a purity drive for the last three years is that i spent the ten previous years high on every drug and vice you can think of but eventually i became bored of being high and every day the same going nowhere
plus i want to explore the world and as i was i couldnt even leave my armchair
i think the best way to give up is to truly remember the pain and suffering
this is what stops me lighting up again
plus im into getting love from the inside of me thruogh meditation and not external pleasure that is transient
plus my life is pretty stress free at the moment i know how it is if you live a life of strees for that soothing cigarette but there are other alternatives
anyway im not going to preach like fox says the body will die anyway its only a vessel for our divine spark
paulaj ive had enemas in my time and the prospect of some one washing my insides is quite an intriguing one for me to look forward to
they say after the colonic you feel like you are floating on air
soon

peace and love

Col-

I know someone who had colon trouble and they did a similar test to colonic irrigation and he said it HURT!

While I sat and waited for this person there was a young girl 6 or 7 having the same procedure and she was screaming on the top of her lungs.

It was so disturbing to have to listen.

I hope you don't get hurt Col.

Yes me too Col. And I hope I didn't insult any of you tofu-eating vegetarians out there. I actually admire those with the discipline to keep a really healthy lifestyle. It just sort of fits in with the old joke about all those old health nuts who are bewildered at dying of nothing at all.

Anyhow, healthy is better than unhealthy. And feeling good is better than not feeling good. Already I'm at an age that another old saw is making a lot of sense: if I had known I would live this long, I would have taken much better care of myself.

There is nothing wrong with your computer. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission...

I once dated a girl that would have given a lunge to meet a guy like you Col Man. You're not alone in your madness. :wink:
This is a loose thread, but let's not get caught up on enemas and such, okay?

Rock on Heeven! I believe we're still at a 50/50 success rate on this thread... or did I forget someone? We'll have to sing "Weeee are the champions my frie-ends.

Smog: Jump back in before it's too late, or you know this is going to the back burner to be conveniently forgotten about. Plus, you know what the Bear's going to call you...

Shewolf: I haven't had a cigar, a joint, a drink, or any other stimulant save coffee since quitting. I never needed an excuse to approach women. Somehow, they already seem to know what I want.
(I can tell because sometimes they tell me to drop dead before I get a word out).

Paulaj, well I'm shocked. I didn't know you were on the weak team. :wink:

We now return control of your computer to you, until next week, at the same time when the Control Voice will take you to... THE OUTER LIMITS

me neither

ill be ok my dear

takes more than this to hurt me

OMG i just noticed it turned my post into an advert for exactly what i had now isnt that freaky

anyway im going to a professional clinic where ill be paying good money for them to treat me gently
ive read up all about it and they have assured me it will be painless
i could imagine it would be traumatic for a young person
and im sure it was disturbing for you my poor love

well to tell you the truth ive just had an operation on that area of my body and actually the op went great and my life is so much better
for a week or two i suffered terribly but after it was such a relief
i was having to have injections in my bottom for two weeks i looked like a junkie covered in red dots and bruises... it was crazy
however its all over now thank god
anyway enough of me and my posterior

im off to play games and post some pictures of the universe as i have a beautiful woman waiting for me to do it

oops sorry to digress and diversify your thread O Bill
erm do you still have that girls number?

so for a more on topic post :
yeah really i must add that this healthy life im now living sure feels good inside me
i feel a bit hypocritical saying this after all the joints and cigs and cigars i have smoked and all the 'theyll have to kill me to stop me smoking' quotes i came out with but ive never felt better or cleaner or purer

Sorry sport, lost touch, or I'd have called her already.